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Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Aug 12 @ 3:07 PM ET
Hey Carol! Easily the best goalie this franchise has had and a HOFer, yes to the full treatment imo

Quite the catfight on that last blog, must be August

- neem55

I’ll take this guy!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:18 PM ET
Man the Fanboys are out in full force today.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:19 PM ET
And he holds the team record for most saves by a captain.
- bloatedmosquito

Do you think that if you knew that record would still stand you would have not rioted in 2011?
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Aug 12 @ 3:22 PM ET
To me, the bar minimum for having a jersey retired is to be a HOF player who spent a majority of his prime playing for the Canucks.

Right away that would mean no to Linden, Nalsund and Smyl in the first place.

They could join the ring of honour(which is basically the ring of fan favs).

- Nucker101

so youre a yes on luongo then…

i agree on linden/smyl - i could listen to the argument on naslund though given the success of the west coast express line
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:23 PM ET
To me, the bar minimum for having a jersey retired is to be a HOF player who spent a majority of his prime playing for the Canucks.

Right away that would mean no to Linden, Nalsund and Smyl in the first place.

They could join the ring of honour(which is basically the ring of fan favs).

- Nucker101

1258 games in a Canuck jersey. Named captain at age 21. Referred to as "Captain Canuck"

HOF is a league wide thing. Jersey retirement as a Canuck player has little to do with hall of fame.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
Where's red mile.....

Juuso Valimaki Suffers Torn ACL


OJ just surpassed him as a better prospect now. I mean since Valimaki passed him when because OJ got injured.

IT's just right.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:31 PM ET
1258 games in a Canuck jersey. Named captain at age 21. Referred to as "Captain Canuck"

HOF is a league wide thing. Jersey retirement as a Canuck player has little to do with hall of fame.

- manvanfan

I didn’t say that it wasn’t a league wide thing, but it’s an high benchmark(except for a few oddities). That’s the type of benchmark I’d apply to retiring a jersey number as well. Longevity and good production should get you into the ring of honour, but I believe only the truly elite players should get their number retired.

It’s all subjective, there’s no right or wrong answer.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 12 @ 3:34 PM ET
Aquilini's marketing team is putting in place a 14th night of celebration to honour Luongo and retire his jersey.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
Man the Fanboys are out in full force today.
- VanHockeyGuy

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:41 PM ET
I didn’t say that it wasn’t a league wide thing, but it’s an high benchmark(except for a few oddities). That’s the type of benchmark I’d apply to retiring a jersey number as well. Longevity and good production should get you into the ring of honour, but I believe only the truly elite players should get their number retired.

It’s all subjective, there’s no right or wrong answer.

- Nucker101

That's where our opinions differ because it's less about being truly elite statistically and more about what that player meant to the team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
That's where our opinions differ because it's less about being truly elite statistically and more about what that player meant to the team.
- manvanfan


That's a fair stance.

But that's when sometimes when the line gets blurred since what a player truly meant to the team isn't something that's black and white.

That's why I said bare minimum should be a HOF caliber player, after that I'd take into account what they did for the franchise on and off the ice. I'm sure the rafters would be more roomy, but I'd be okay with that.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Aug 12 @ 3:52 PM ET
I didn’t say that it wasn’t a league wide thing, but it’s an high benchmark(except for a few oddities). That’s the type of benchmark I’d apply to retiring a jersey number as well. Longevity and good production should get you into the ring of honour, but I believe only the truly elite players should get their number retired.

It’s all subjective, there’s no right or wrong answer.

- Nucker101

i saw an article that said about 125 numbers are officially retired league wide and its definitely a wide mix of the games elite and obscure

also id say im against unofficially retired numbers - either do it or dont.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:53 PM ET
That's a fair stance.

But that's when sometimes when the line gets blurred since what a player truly meant to the team isn't something that's black and white.

That's why I said bare minimum should be a HOF caliber player, after that I'd take into account what they did for the franchise on and off the ice. I'm sure the rafters would be more roomy, but I'd be okay with that.

- Nucker101

Will all have our own criteria. (mine is more important than yours)

I would probably put the Canucks jersey retirement a step below the HOF, close to HOF worthy but what they did with the club like Linden being a very young captain and just being the type of player he was.

I can't say much about Smyl because I was 4 when he played his last NHL game.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:54 PM ET
i saw an article that said about 125 numbers are officially retired league wide and its definitely a wide mix of the games elite and obscure

also id say im against unofficially retired numbers - either do it or dont.

- johnnykarate

You think Pancake and Bobski are going to get their jersey's up in Columbus?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:55 PM ET
Will all have our own criteria. (mine is more important than yours)

I would probably put the Canucks jersey retirement a step below the HOF, close to HOF worthy but what they did with the club like Linden being a very young captain and just being the type of player he was.

I can't say much about Smyl because I was 4 when he played his last NHL game.

- manvanfan



lol yeah I wasn't even alive for Smyl's career, but Naslund and Sakic were my childhood heroes and got me into playing and watching hockey. I loved watching their lethal wrist shot goals. So as much as it hurts to say, I wouldn't retire Nazzy's number.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Aug 12 @ 3:57 PM ET
You think Pancake and Bobski are going to get their jersey's up in Columbus?
- manvanfan

no but id say rick nash does which is naslund level questionable

i think this would surprise no one: van buf stl are tied for the most non-hof jersey numbers retired with 3 each
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:59 PM ET
no but id say rick nash does

i think this would surprise no one: van buf stl are tied for the most non-hof jersey numbers retired with 3 each

- johnnykarate


That’s actually pretty telling. 3 of the “newer” franchises in the league without much of a proud history and all of them have rivals with storied histories so naturally these 3 would compensate for it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 4:00 PM ET
lol yeah I wasn't even alive for Smyl's career, but Naslund and Sakic were my childhood heroes and got me into playing and watching hockey. I loved watching their lethal wrist shot goals. So as much as it hurts to say, I wouldn't retire Nazzy's number.
- Nucker101

I saw a commercial for A/E having a new show about interventions in Philly. Crazy drugs going on there.

I wasn't pro Naslund. Enjoyed watching him play but yeah I grew up Sakic, Yzerman fan.

My father still has no recollection how I became a Canucks fan and not a Flames fan like him. I think it disappoints him and he's blocked it out.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Aug 12 @ 4:03 PM ET
That’s actually pretty telling. 3 of the “newer” franchises in the league without much of a proud history and all of them have rivals with storied histories so naturally these 3 would compensate for it.
- Nucker101

exactly
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
no but id say rick nash does which is naslund level questionable

i think this would surprise no one: van buf stl are tied for the most non-hof jersey numbers retired with 3 each

- johnnykarate

I wouldn't put Nash up there.

Buf and Van are now longest franchise without a cup.

I think winning trophies brings history to a team.

I know my fav soccer team AC Milan were dominate in the world in the 90's and early 2000's and are still talked about as elite and a team with history and players are more than excited to play for them. For the last like 10 years, they have kind of sucked and were in a steady decline but the team is still always talked about as if they are still elite.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
I’ll take this guy!
- Shuswap Wap

all those 20 win seasons and below .900 save percentages?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
Man the Fanboys are out in full force today.
- VanHockeyGuy

Were you hoping for the old fellas to keep beaking eachother off?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Aug 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
Were you hoping for the old fellas to keep beaking eachother off?
- neem55


Actually yes!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 12 @ 4:15 PM ET
Actually yes!
- VanHockeyGuy

I think maybe a few of them got banned
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 12 @ 4:16 PM ET
all those 20 win seasons and below .900 save percentages?
- neem55

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