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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 13 @ 4:47 PM ET
Yes, but how much worse could any coach in history fall since the win streak?

This was an epic collapse.
Probably a top 5 buffalo sports let down.

- Boss34


That's a stretch.

Wide Right.
No Goal.
Music City Miracle.
Carolina Game 7.
The Ronnie Harmon game.

And that's giving it only 2 minutes of thought.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
That's a stretch.

Wide Right.
No Goal.
Music City Miracle.
Carolina Game 7.
The Ronnie Harmon game.

And that's giving it only 2 minutes of thought.

- buffalofan19



I'd add the leclair hole goal into the mix with that one

This collapse was like the Bills starting 5-1 in 2008 and finishing 7-9. Bad, not unheard of
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 13 @ 4:56 PM ET
I think this really can't be answered until opening night roster is set

up front they removed pommer
and to lesser extent berglund and nylander


and added johansson, vesey, cozens and olofsson

on the back end you remove beaulieu and added joker, montour and miller

IMO they still need to remove 2 or 3 scrubs up front and 2 scrubs on the blueline

- homiedclown


Cozens was in for lunch again today (with Pekar)
Has the cast off his hand
He’s pretty sure he’ll be cleared to play in the prospects tourney
matty12345
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.11.2007

Aug 13 @ 4:57 PM ET
Honestly the sabres aren't jumping Tampa the leafs or Boston. Just not close in talent.

That leaves Florida. Barzal, Huberdeau, and Hoffman are as good or better than our top three. The rest of the rosters are pretty similar, but they have a vezina trophy winner and we have two guys who can't get their save percentage into respectable backup territory.

That means you have to be better than all but three Metro teams. Washington is just too good. So I got to beat out all but two of NYI, PIT, COL, PHI, CAR. I can envision scenarios where the sabres are better than all those teams, but collectively its a real stretch.

Maybe they have a lot of potential, but Risto and Larsson and Sobotka and Girgs and Scandella and Bogo and...everyone from last year, they are all still here. They will block exciting guys like Joker and CJ Smith and Asplund and Pilut from playing. So the chance for a breakout season from the young guys is slim.

Honestly I see us around 19th or 20th next year in the league.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
Honestly the sabres aren't jumping Tampa the leafs or Boston. Just not close in talent.

That leaves Florida. Barzal, Huberdeau, and Hoffman are as good or better than our top three. The rest of the rosters are pretty similar, but they have a vezina trophy winner and we have two guys who can't get their save percentage into respectable backup territory.

That means you have to be better than all but three Metro teams. Washington is just too good. So I got to beat out all but two of NYI, PIT, COL, PHI, CAR. I can envision scenarios where the sabres are better than all those teams, but collectively its a real stretch.

Maybe they have a lot of potential, but Risto and Larsson and Sobotka and Girgs and Scandella and Bogo and...everyone from last year, they are all still here. They will block exciting guys like Joker and CJ Smith and Asplund and Pilut from playing. So the chance for a breakout season from the young guys is slim.

Honestly I see us around 19th or 20th next year in the league.

- matty12345


I think this is all fair.

84 points is a reasonable betting line. Only way I see us overachieving is huge years from Mitts, Dahlin, and if Olofsson in the Calder discussion
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO NY, NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 13 @ 5:10 PM ET
That's a stretch.

Wide Right.
No Goal.
Music City Miracle.
Carolina Game 7.
The Ronnie Harmon game.

And that's giving it only 2 minutes of thought.

- buffalofan19



That's a really solid post.
Well played


Top 5 sabres disappointments?

No goal
John leclaire no goal
Other goal thru the outside of the net goal
*Carolina
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Aug 13 @ 5:40 PM ET
Roster surgery.
Sabres should easily make the playoffs with all the bionic surgical upgrades. Lee Majors is freaking jealous of the 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:01 PM ET
Roster surgery.
Sabres should easily make the playoffs with all the bionic surgical upgrades. Lee Majors is freaking jealous of the 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres.

- PrinceChill


Did you like Jason Pominville?

Then you're going to go buck wild for Jimmy Vesey!

6.25% more goals!
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Aug 13 @ 6:04 PM ET
Honestly the sabres aren't jumping Tampa the leafs or Boston. Just not close in talent.

That leaves Florida. Barzal, Huberdeau, and Hoffman are as good or better than our top three. The rest of the rosters are pretty similar, but they have a vezina trophy winner and we have two guys who can't get their save percentage into respectable backup territory.

That means you have to be better than all but three Metro teams. Washington is just too good. So I got to beat out all but two of NYI, PIT, COL, PHI, CAR. I can envision scenarios where the sabres are better than all those teams, but collectively its a real stretch.

Maybe they have a lot of potential, but Risto and Larsson and Sobotka and Girgs and Scandella and Bogo and...everyone from last year, they are all still here. They will block exciting guys like Joker and CJ Smith and Asplund and Pilut from playing. So the chance for a breakout season from the young guys is slim.

Honestly I see us around 19th or 20th next year in the league.

- matty12345


We dont even know if this is our roster for the first game of the season let alone if another team gets decimated with injuries, has a bad year, etc.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Aug 13 @ 6:06 PM ET
Cozens was in for lunch again today (with Pekar)
Has the cast off his hand
He’s pretty sure he’ll be cleared to play in the prospects tourney

- jdfitz77



What did he order? Is he still working out? Good tipper?
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Aug 13 @ 6:29 PM ET
Did you like Jason Pominville?

Then you're going to go buck wild for Jimmy Vesey!

6.25% more goals!

- jcragcrumple

It goes to show how times have changed. In the late 70s, a six million dollar man is a half cyborg capable for fighting and defeating Bigfoot.
In the late 20-teens, a six million dollar man is Kyle Okposo.
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Aug 13 @ 6:31 PM ET
Cozens was in for lunch again today (with Pekar)
Has the cast off his hand
He’s pretty sure he’ll be cleared to play in the prospects tourney

- jdfitz77




Bust !~~

We Need Cole Muffler
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Aug 13 @ 6:32 PM ET
Did you like Jason Pominville?

Then you're going to go buck wild for Jimmy Vesey!

6.25% more goals!

- jcragcrumple



Comparing Vesey to Pommer just based on goals is so limited thinking bro
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:42 PM ET
Comparing Vesey to Pommer just based on goals is so limited thinking bro
- MEBSabresFAN


Don't look at the advanced stats. Vesey is not a hero there.

He does play a bit of PK though which will be nice for the team

The roster surgery is what it is: highly predicated on growth from within, with some calculated outside adds. I would have enjoyed a bit more, but let's see how it goes
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 13 @ 6:45 PM ET
That's a stretch.

Wide Right.
No Goal.
Music City Miracle.
Carolina Game 7.
The Ronnie Harmon game.

And that's giving it only 2 minutes of thought.

- buffalofan19

No goal 2
Pens game 7 double OT goal
Thomas fumble in last super bowl to start second half
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 13 @ 6:45 PM ET
Did you like Jason Pominville?

Then you're going to go buck wild for Jimmy Vesey!

6.25% more goals!

- jcragcrumple

I’d rather have Pommer.

Of all the moves I understand the Vesey one the least.

He’s a solid 5 on 5 goal scorer but the position and contract make no sense to me for us

But it’s a 3rd, the same price Murray paid to get interviewed about him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 13 @ 6:46 PM ET
Cozens was in for lunch again today (with Pekar)
Has the cast off his hand
He’s pretty sure he’ll be cleared to play in the prospects tourney

- jdfitz77

I expect him with the big club to start
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Aug 13 @ 6:47 PM ET
Don't look at the advanced stats. Vesey is not a hero there.

He does play a bit of PK though which will be nice for the team

The roster surgery is what it is: highly predicated on growth from within, with some calculated outside adds. I would have enjoyed a bit more, but let's see how it goes

- jcragcrumple

But Girgz and Larz are back. That’s gotta count for something, right?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 13 @ 6:47 PM ET
Roster surgery.
Sabres should easily make the playoffs with all the bionic surgical upgrades. Lee Majors is freaking jealous of the 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres.

- PrinceChill

We have the technology
We can rebuild
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
But Girgz and Larz are back. That’s gotta count for something, right?
- PrinceChill


I am already too negative about the team. If I start yelling about them for the 1000th time, i will be utterly insufferable
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 13 @ 6:52 PM ET
Yes, but how much worse could any coach in history fall since the win streak?

This was an epic collapse.
Probably a top 5 buffalo sports let down.

- Boss34


It was bad, no question. To argue that we had the best record in the NHL in spite of the coach, then the worst record in the NHL because of the coach, doesn't hold up to me. I blame the roster slightly more than the coaching. Doesn't bother me that some feel the opposite. Taking it to the extreme that it was a playoff caliber team, with horrendous coaching is too far to me.
Wetbandit1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Please do not address me, quote me, provoke me or in any way reference me, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 13 @ 6:58 PM ET
When the NFL's contract is up with DirecTV, I think you will see YouTube/Google or Amazon Prime get the new deal and do that. There's a reason Jeff Bezos was in Goodell's suite during the Super Bowl last February.
- buffalofan19



This might be way late, but the NFL has already streamed games on Prime. They streamed like 8 or so last year. They were the poopty Thursday night games, but still. Also Yahoo and Twitter get a few games a year too. It's only a matter of time.

I wonder if the NHL would get demonetized for having violent content, or get a copyright claim because you can overhear the songs played in the arena.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 13 @ 7:00 PM ET
That's a really solid post.
Well played


Top 5 sabres disappointments?

No goal
John leclaire no goal
Other goal thru the outside of the net goal
*Carolina

- Boss34


I think it needs to be separated into team failures over a season or more, like the Sabres 2018-19 season, versus game events like no goal or wide right.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 13 @ 7:05 PM ET
It was bad, no question. To argue that we had the best record in the NHL in spite of the coach, then the worst record in the NHL because of the coach, doesn't hold up to me. I blame the roster slightly more than the coaching. Doesn't bother me that some feel the opposite. Taking it to the extreme that it was a playoff caliber team, with horrendous coaching is too far to me.
- Lunaion


This is a good post.

The same sentiment can be expressed for
Risto sucks cause Housley's system sucked
Yet, Eichel, Skins, Sam, Dahlin all played very good and enjoyed reading yed career years.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 13 @ 7:07 PM ET
This might be way late, but the NFL has already streamed games on Prime. They streamed like 8 or so last year. They were the poopty Thursday night games, but still. Also Yahoo and Twitter get a few games a year too. It's only a matter of time.

I wonder if the NHL would get demonetized for having violent content, or get a copyright claim because you can overhear the songs played in the arena.

- Wetbandit1


Or someone's unique fart sound from the stands.
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