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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "We played a good enough hockey game to win a hockey game tonight." -Phil Housley
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
Human nature?
- Boss34

The best song Toto wrote for Michael Jackson?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:34 AM ET
Exactly. The first couple years of Jacks career showed us all about centers that can drive lines that contain wingers that cant finish.

Take Skinner away and replace him with Duchene and who exactly is scoring goals??

- RippedFuel


Exactly!
I’m so glad we didn’t get Duchene

Good post
We do still need another goal scoring winger though, maybe 2
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: It's totally menstrual , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 14 @ 10:34 AM ET
Get a ducking clue, dude. Skinner was a regular 30 goal scorer and never had a playmaking or number 1 center, is underrated as a 2-way forward and draws penalties like a madman.

Okposo had a few above average seasons playing with Tavares, everyone knew he was a crap player with inflated numbers and no one wanted him except Tim Murrays drunk ass.

- BeadyEyedDouche

Harsh, but fair.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:35 AM ET
How could fitz miss out on: you including sheary in every trade offer?
- Boss34


There was a couple guys i left out
I think my point was made though

Idk how anyone can say the players don’t get trashed here?
It literally happens every day
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: It's totally menstrual , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 14 @ 10:35 AM ET
Exactly!
I’m so glad we didn’t get Duchene

Good post
We do still need another goal scoring winger though, maybe 2

- jdfitz77

He's going to do well in Nashville.

I hope.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:37 AM ET
How dare I
- jcragcrumple


If it’s MoJo-Mitts-Sam for line2,
i think Sheary is the top candidate for RW1
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:39 AM ET
If it’s MoJo-Mitts-Sam for line2,
i think Sheary is the top candidate for RW1

- jdfitz77


It could be Vesey. He played a short stint at RW last year, and by all accounts, performed pretty well.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:39 AM ET
He's going to do well in Nashville.

I hope.

- jochfr


I’m sure he will
But we have Mitts & Cozens
No need to go spend that amount of $$$ on a center long term
Not unless it’s a 40ish goal guy who’s also great defensively (like Point)
And not a 65ish point guy like Duchene
Plus he’d probably have costed us in the 10mil range
I think the Preds got a deal bc everyone knew he wanted to go there
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
It could be Vesey. He played a short stint at RW last year, and by all accounts, performed pretty well.
- buffalofan19


True
And maybe Olofsson gets a shot as well
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 14 @ 10:41 AM ET
If it’s MoJo-Mitts-Sam for line2,
i think Sheary is the top candidate for RW1

- jdfitz77


For sure. He has the wheels to keep up

I'd rather have a natural RW though
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Aug 14 @ 10:42 AM ET
It could be Vesey. He played a short stint at RW last year, and by all accounts, performed pretty well.
- buffalofan19


I think viable options include:

Vesey
Mojo
Olofsson
Sheary
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
https://www.diebytheblade.com/platform/amp/2019/8/14/20804323/a-few-things-the-buffalo-sabres-are-bad-at-and-how-they-can-fix-it

Really good read, data

- lulags


No these guys suck I'm told. Pure Stats guys, don't watch games , just crunch numbers and then selectively use them to fit their preconceived narratives.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 14 @ 10:56 AM ET
For sure. He has the wheels to keep up

I'd rather have a natural RW though

- jcragcrumple


Fair
But he’s been successful on that side before
I’m guessing that Botts has been calling him a RW lately bc the plan is to give him a shot there

SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Aug 14 @ 11:11 AM ET
Lmao!!!! Oh yeah Sam blows
- SMS4016


Fine, then we'll be picking high for another impact player that will disappoint. You can't break me. Silver Linings all day
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 14 @ 11:20 AM ET
Fair
But he’s been successful on that side before
I’m guessing that Botts has been calling him a RW lately bc the plan is to give him a shot there

- jdfitz77


Yeah, it's his job to lose. An interesting middle 6 could be

Olofsson-Mitts-Reinhart
Vesey-Erod-mojo

Some will say that's too much to throw on Olofsson's plate, but his shot should be in the lineup and that 2b/3rd line looks pretty decent as an actual 2-way line
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 14 @ 11:54 AM ET
Lmao!!!! Oh yeah Sam blows
- SMS4016


No matter the context, this was a bad take.

Not even in jest, please.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 14 @ 11:54 AM ET
Get a ducking clue, dude. Skinner was a regular 30 goal scorer and never had a playmaking or number 1 center, is underrated as a 2-way forward and draws penalties like a madman.

Okposo had a few above average seasons playing with Tavares, everyone knew he was a crap player with inflated numbers and no one wanted him except Tim Murrays drunk ass.

- BeadyEyedDouche


He’s eclipsed 30 goals 4 times in 9 years, I wouldn’t say he’s a “regular” 30 goal scorer. He has never had back to back 30 goal seasons either so I guess that is something to look for this year if he can buck that trend.

Regardless top dollars are better spent down the middle and on defence then on the wing and nothing anyone can say will deter my thinking of that. Skinner is fantastic but overpaid by $1-$1.5M annually.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Aug 14 @ 11:59 AM ET
Exactly. The first couple years of Jacks career showed us all about centers that can drive lines that contain wingers that cant finish.

Take Skinner away and replace him with Duchene and who exactly is scoring goals??

- RippedFuel


Pominville was on pace for 25. I’m not saying you can just put a monkey out there but we didn’t need to drop $9M on a winger for Jack either.

Olofsson-Eichel-Johnsson
Vesey-$9M 2C-Reinhart

Skinner-Eichel-Johnsson
Olofsson-Mitts-Reinhart

Which Top 6 wins more games barring Mitts having a huge breakout year ? Look at the Centres making that kind of dough and put any of them in that 2C lineup and I take that roster 10/10.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Aug 14 @ 11:59 AM ET
No these guys suck I'm told. Pure Stats guys, don't watch games , just crunch numbers and then selectively use them to fit their preconceived narratives.
- IonSabres

Sometimes that’s not a bad thing. Someone needs to pay attention to the data
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
He’s eclipsed 30 goals 4 times in 9 years, I wouldn’t say he’s a “regular” 30 goal scorer. He has never had back to back 30 goal seasons either so I guess that is something to look for this year if he can buck that trend.

Regardless top dollars are better spent down the middle and on defence then on the wing and nothing anyone can say will deter my thinking of that. Skinner is fantastic but overpaid by $1-$1.5M annually.

- Swedish_Jesus


According to Evolving Hockey, he was over-paid by about $600K annually. Compare that over payment with that of Hayes and others. 40 goal scorers don't grow on trees. I am happy they re-signed Skinner even if there was a $600K annual over payment. Imagine where we would be if we took his 40 goals out of the line-up?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 14 @ 12:02 PM ET
No these guys suck I'm told. Pure Stats guys, don't watch games , just crunch numbers and then selectively use them to fit their preconceived narratives.
- IonSabres


They can be a little liberal with their analytics. They're getting better. Some of their top followers, however, are a bunch of Jeremy Whites.

"See, that bar is blue, which means he can play top pairing minutes"

"See how red that bar is? He's a failure"

It's starting to wear on me. I'm pretty over the offseason.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 14 @ 12:03 PM ET
Pominville was on pace for 25. I’m not saying you can just put a monkey out there but we didn’t need to drop $9M on a winger for Jack either.

Olofsson-Eichel-Johnsson
Vesey-$9M 2C-Reinhart

Skinner-Eichel-Johnsson
Olofsson-Mitts-Reinhart

Which Top 6 wins more games barring Mitts having a huge breakout year ? Look at the Centres making that kind of dough and put any of them in that 2C lineup and I take that roster 10/10.

- Swedish_Jesus


I'm not sold that if you pull Skinner and put in Duchene that you're helping. You can argue it would be a better situation, but I don't think you can say that swap makes some amazing difference that propels us into relevancy.

Not saying you disagree, but Skinner >>> Olo
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I would pick Heiskanen and Provorov over Dahlin. But still not in my top 10. - MaximusAurelius, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 14 @ 12:04 PM ET
According to Evolving Hockey, he was over-paid by about $600K annually. Compare that over payment with that of Hayes and others. 40 goal scorers don't grow on trees. I am happy they re-signed Skinner even if there was a $600K annual over payment. Imagine where we would be if we took his 40 goals out of the line-up?
- SabreWest


That's what it's always came down to. Overpay a little, keep a 30-40 goal scorer. Or hunt for a new one for the cost of poop n pix
trikkdaniels
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Pucks Deep, NY
Joined: 12.08.2011

Aug 14 @ 12:11 PM ET
this board is shot, we need a risto trade
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Aug 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
this board is shot, we need a risto trade
- trikkdaniels



Or any hockey move so we can berate Botterill for not getting in on it.
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