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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Sep 10 @ 9:29 PM ET
I don't even know who the fuk you are so whatever.

Well when you become relevant come back I am here for you entertainment. Until then you are just some idiot that I have no idea of who you are.

- VANTEL

We need hockey!!
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Sep 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
Exactly
- VANTEL


That being said though, I would like to see them make a trade to free up a roster spot. Only thing though is the players we want gone, nobody will want (Ericksson) or have injury concerns (Baer, Sutter). Of the 3 Sutter is most likely tradeable, but at pennies on the dollar. Can JB make a trade of a "Foundational" piece and have "Sutter like Balls" to face the backlash from the masses?
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Sep 10 @ 9:32 PM ET
I am sure they will have a good season

- VANTEL

Playoffs baby
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 9:34 PM ET
That being said though, I would like to see them make a trade to free up a roster spot. Only thing though is the players we want gone, nobody will want (Ericksson) or have injury concerns (Baer, Sutter). Of the 3 Sutter is most likely tradeable, but at pennies on the dollar. Can JB make a trade of a "Foundational" piece and have "Sutter like Balls" to face the backlash from the masses?
- carsonagenic


I can't say for sure but I would not be surprised to see someone like Sven or someone go on long term injury the length of their contract.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Sep 10 @ 9:38 PM ET
I can't say for sure but I would not be surprised to see someone like Sven or someone go on long term injury the length of their contract.
- VANTEL

1 more concussion should do it. I dont want to see it happen, but the yolk in that shell is soft.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 9:45 PM ET
Playoffs baby
- DraftandDestroy



You know alt accounts are like fake tits. They may seem like a good idea but they just make you a big boob.

You are incognito on a site already filled with anonymity
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 9:46 PM ET
1 more concussion should do it. I dont want to see it happen, but the yolk in that shell is soft.
- carsonagenic



There will be movement I just don't know who or when.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 10 @ 9:53 PM ET
Do you agree with the tweet that the Canucks have to make a trade to sign Brock?
- CanuckDon


You should ask Rick D that as he's the one suggesting it and Rick D is kind of connected. As close to an insider as there is I guess.

If this was coming from me or one of the other trolls then I could understand your dismissal, but it's coming from someone who does have knowledge of the team.

Does that have no weight with you or even worthy of a discussion?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 9:56 PM ET
You should ask Rick D that as he's the one suggesting it and Rick D is kind of connected. As close to an insider as there is I guess.

If this was coming from me or one of the other trolls then I could understand your dismissal, but it's coming from someone who does have knowledge of the team.

Does that have no weight with you or even worthy of a discussion?

- bloatedmosquito



Days before training camp the agent of the RFA tells the local media that they are not close.

There's a tactic that has never been used before
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 10 @ 9:59 PM ET
There will be movement I just don't know who or when.
- VANTEL


I think that's the issue RD and that other guy was commenting about.

A trade might not need to happen but some type of movement will need to happen. If it does, it would be a shame to reduce the quality of the team because you demote a player who doesn't have to go through wavers. Not because he's less skilled then the next guy.

Considering this is supposed to be a rebuilding team, it's a bit frustrating to be in this situation with so much young talent.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 10:04 PM ET
I think that's the issue RD and that other guy was commenting about.

A trade might not need to happen but some type of movement will need to happen. If it does, it would be a shame to reduce the quality of the team because you demote a player who doesn't have to go through wavers. Not because he's less skilled then the next guy.

Considering this is supposed to be a rebuilding team, it's a bit frustrating to be in this situation with so much young talent.

- bloatedmosquito


Carolina Toronto Buffalo NYR MTL DET Chi and every other rebuilding team are in the same situation. Canucks have 7 mil in space and one player that needs signing . It really is no problem . It is a paper shuffle .
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 10 @ 10:04 PM ET
Days before training camp the agent of the RFA tells the local media that they are not close.

There's a tactic that has never been used before

- VANTEL


True but that's speculative. The fact is BB is not signed and it's September. Would have been nice to have the young talent wrapped up by now instead of JB having to tinker with cap space in hopes of finding a bit more room to negotiate BB's contract.

But I agree with you, by start of season this will be resolved one way or another.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Sep 10 @ 10:05 PM ET
I think that's the issue RD and that other guy was commenting about.

A trade might not need to happen but some type of movement will need to happen. If it does, it would be a shame to reduce the quality of the team because you demote a player who doesn't have to go through wavers. Not because he's less skilled then the next guy.

Considering this is supposed to be a rebuilding team, it's a bit frustrating to be in this situation with so much young talent.

- bloatedmosquito


I mean, what type of player are we going to have to demote to not go on waivers? Gaudette? Even guys that have to go on waivers... Motte? Is there really going to alter the year that much? And, even if he goes down, he can be called back up with injuries/trades throughout the year.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 10 @ 10:06 PM ET
You should ask Rick D that as he's the one suggesting it and Rick D is kind of connected. As close to an insider as there is I guess.

If this was coming from me or one of the other trolls then I could understand your dismissal, but it's coming from someone who does have knowledge of the team.

Does that have no weight with you or even worthy of a discussion?

- bloatedmosquito


A discussion is appropriate. Perhaps a trade is needed as a long term solution given Roussel will go on LTIR. There is only limited cap relief waiving players. But they can sign BB now without a trade. It just gets complicated with full healthy team.

Sutter seems likely candidate to play the start of season to prove he's good health wise for trade and then they call up Gaudette to replace him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 10:06 PM ET
True but that's speculative. The fact is BB is not signed and it's September. Would have been nice to have the young talent wrapped up by now instead of JB having to tinker with cap space in hopes of finding a bit more room to negotiate BB's contract.

But I agree with you, by start of season this will be resolved one way or another.

- bloatedmosquito



Boeser Tkachuk Laine Connor and more not signed. I don't think Boeser is worth near 7 mil. Werenski contract is what he should get IMO
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 10:10 PM ET
I mean, what type of player are we going to have to demote to not go on waivers? Gaudette? Even guys that have to go on waivers... Motte? Is there really going to alter the year that much? And, even if he goes down, he can be called back up with injuries/trades throughout the year.
- NewYorkNuck



Schaller 1.1 mil off
Biega .825 K off
Loui 1.1 off

3 mil
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 10 @ 10:14 PM ET
You should ask Rick D that as he's the one suggesting it and Rick D is kind of connected. As close to an insider as there is I guess.

If this was coming from me or one of the other trolls then I could understand your dismissal, but it's coming from someone who does have knowledge of the team.

Does that have no weight with you or even worthy of a discussion?

- bloatedmosquito

I’m 100% certain a trade is not needed to sign Brock. I’ve run the numbers. Not sure what drama Rick is spewing but I’m certain. They can offer Brock $7MM without making a trade
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 10:15 PM ET
I’m 100% certain a trade is not needed to sign Brock. I’ve run the numbers. Not sure what drama Rick is spewing but I’m certain. They can offer Brock $7MM without making a trade
- CanuckDon

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 10 @ 10:18 PM ET
I mean, what type of player are we going to have to demote to not go on waivers? Gaudette? Even guys that have to go on waivers... Motte? Is there really going to alter the year that much? And, even if he goes down, he can be called back up with injuries/trades throughout the year.
- NewYorkNuck


I agree, the quality and impact of the depth veteran players is minimal. But, you just can't assume you can send down and recall players at will. There is a possibility of losing a player on waivers. It's tricky.

As for a player like Gaudette, exactly. The future is with the young players. Limiting their NHL ice time because of cap congestion on a rebuilding team is frustrating and demonstrates a lack in contract planning by management.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 10 @ 10:21 PM ET
A discussion is appropriate. Perhaps a trade is needed as a long term solution given Roussel will go on LTIR. There is only limited cap relief waiving players. But they can sign BB now without a trade. It just gets complicated with full healthy team.

Sutter seems likely candidate to play the start of season to prove he's good health wise for trade and then they call up Gaudette to replace him.

- NuckUp


It's when the team is healthy (if ever) that cap congestion will happen. But again, don't think it's a huge issue, just another scab to pick.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 10 @ 10:26 PM ET
I’m 100% certain a trade is not needed to sign Brock. I’ve run the numbers. Not sure what drama Rick is spewing but I’m certain. They can offer Brock $7MM without making a trade
- CanuckDon


Did you crunch the numbers? Just watched 'The Big Short' again. Love that movie.

I agree with you guys, the situation as it stands now (with LTIR and such) works in JB's favour. Just would like it done by now. Saying that, don't really want to see JB over pay either.

I blame the agents.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 10 @ 10:28 PM ET
Did you crunch the numbers? Just watched 'The Big Short' again. Love that movie.

I agree with you guys, the situation as it stands now (with LTIR and such) works in JB's favour. Just would like it done by now. Saying that, don't really want to see JB over pay either.

I blame the agents.

- bloatedmosquito



I want a 3 x 5.5 per year done now. I don't want a 7 mil per .
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Sep 10 @ 10:29 PM ET
I agree, the quality and impact of the depth veteran players is minimal. But, you just can't assume you can send down and recall players at will. There is a possibility of losing a player on waivers. It's tricky.

As for a player like Gaudette, exactly. The future is with the young players. Limiting their NHL ice time because of cap congestion on a rebuilding team is frustrating and demonstrates a lack in contract planning by management.

- bloatedmosquito


At this point, the only real lack of contract planning is Loui. That is 6m wasted and cant be fully recovered by playing him (not going to put up the numbers) or waiving him (only saves 1.1m). I'm not willing at this time to waste a high pick, ie Toronto, to get rid of him. But I would still waive him, and send him to Utica in a heartbeat if he doesn't outperform anyone challenging his spot.
As for the rest of the Squad, not too much waste vs performance. and what there is ie Schaller can be waived BYE.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Sep 10 @ 10:32 PM ET
I want a 3 x 5.5 per year done now. I don't want a 7 mil per .
- VANTEL

That would be BEST CASE contract. I don't think we get him for that. 3 x 6.25, or 7 x 8 is my range.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 10 @ 10:32 PM ET
It's when the team is healthy (if ever) that cap congestion will happen. But again, don't think it's a huge issue, just another scab to pick.
- bloatedmosquito


That's why I think the plan is to get Gaudette top line minutes on Comets to get his offensive game going. Then as suggested on a fully healthy team trade Sutter.

With Miller there is now more center depth then just Motte if injury occurs after a Sutter trade.
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