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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 11 @ 5:05 PM ET
I am thinking the same thing. How do you pay a player twice. I could see a lot of mid range buyouts and probably brought for less money.

I just bought out Baertschi's last year and 1.7

Sign him to a 1 year 900 k deal and Van saves 700 k

- manvanfan


If this is now allowed, it definitely opens up a lot of possibilities. Especially if the player is attached to the city/team he's playing for and doesn't want to be bought out and let go, or traded. Basically like restructuring a contract, the NFL does it all the time.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Sep 11 @ 5:43 PM ET
Today a promising young career was cut short, as 20-year old defenseman Zachary Lauzon has announced his retirement through a piece by Mikael Lalancette of TVA Sports. The former Pittsburgh Penguins prospect was not offered a contract from the team this summer after dealing with post-concussion symptoms for two years, but did receive an invitation to their rookie camp. Unfortunately, Lauzon’s headaches and dizziness returned, leading to his decision to end his hockey career.

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Good for him, life isn't just about being a pro athlete.

- manvanfan


Which is why players should be maxing out what they can get paid while they can get paid.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 11 @ 5:58 PM ET
Ahhh, got it, Jovo’s opinions are believed when they fit your specific narrative, but when his opinion is about what he believes Boeser should be paid he is meaningless.

- Makita

Seemed pretty on point. He was talking about how many goals he's scored, how that's rare and what that type of player usually gets. Players wanting to get paid what their worth is selfish of them.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
Which is why players should be maxing out what they can get paid while they can get paid.
- CubanBuffet

It's really bizarre to me that people don't get this, massive risk every day you play the sport. For sure at some point you've made enough, but for most guys like say.... guys getting their first big contract. might want to shoot for the stars just in case.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 11 @ 7:33 PM ET
Do you crunch #’s or just stop at totals & ignore context? Maybe Reuby & his childhood friends can teach you about stats. Laine & Boeser are also stylistically comparable w/ similar weaknesses.
- DrChristianTroy


I think Retinalz is unreachable.
But I do agree with your comparison.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 11 @ 8:30 PM ET
Jovo was a client of mine. Never met a stupider human being.
Nice guy, though.

- Marwood


Well I guess that answers my question about who attended the picnic this year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:40 PM ET
If this is now allowed, it definitely opens up a lot of possibilities. Especially if the player is attached to the city/team he's playing for and doesn't want to be bought out and let go, or traded. Basically like restructuring a contract, the NFL does it all the time.
- Nucker101

I don't like the restructuring of contracts.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:45 PM ET
Which is why players should be maxing out what they can get paid while they can get paid.
- CubanBuffet

Well I know what side you are on.

I'm quite on the opposite side. If you don't want to play it for a career, I don't see why you need to be compensated for life.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:52 PM ET
If this is now allowed, it definitely opens up a lot of possibilities. Especially if the player is attached to the city/team he's playing for and doesn't want to be bought out and let go, or traded. Basically like restructuring a contract, the NFL does it all the time.
- Nucker101

To clear up any confusion, there is nothing in the CBA to prevent a move like this directly. Only compliance buyouts included a provision that made a player unable to re-sign with his team for one year. This could however be investigated by the league for cap circumvention if they believe it was intentional, as they did in the case of Brooks Orpik last summer.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:01 PM ET
Horvat showing why he is the captain, he stopped short of calling Brock out but also sent a pretty clear message of the benefits of being at camp.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:03 PM ET

FORWARDS
# PLAYER POS 18.19 CLUB GP PTS
68 Arseneau, Vincent LW Utica (AHL) 38 11
47 Baertschi, Sven LW Vancouver (NHL) 26 14
38 Bailey, Justin RW Philadelphia (NHL) 11 1
Lehigh Valley (AHL) 17 8
Rochester (AHL) 37 20
92 Bancks, Carter LW Utica (AHL) 69 15
83 Beagle, Jay C Vancouver (NHL) 57 13
6 Boeser, Brock* RW Vancouver (NHL) 69 56
24 Boucher, Reid C Utica (AHL) 56 62
Vancouver (NHL) 1 0
94 Camper, Carter F Grand Rapids (AHL) 67 50
21 Eriksson, Loui LW Vancouver (NHL) 81 29
79 Ferland, Micheal LW Carolina (NHL) 71 40
13 Ferraro, Landon* C Iowa (AHL) 12 5
45 Focht, Carson C Calgary (WHL) 68 64
41 Gadjovich, Jonah LW Utica (AHL) 74 31
88 Gaudette, Adam C Vancouver (NHL) 56 12
Utica (AHL) 14 11
77 Goldobin, Nikolay RW Vancouver (NHL) 63 27
44 Graovac, Tyler C Stockton (AHL) 65 50
90 Hamilton, Wacey F Utica (AHL) 23 11
53 Horvat, Bo C Vancouver (NHL) 82 61
67 Jasek, Lukas RW Utica (AHL) 63 29
46 Keppen, Ethan LW Flint (OHL) 68 59
17 Leivo, Josh LW Vancouver (NHL) 49 18
Toronto (NHL) 27 6
78 Lind, Kole RW Utica (AHL) 51 17
71 MacEwen, Zack C Vancouver (NHL) 4 1
Utica (AHL) 69 52
9 Miller, JT C Tampa Bay (NHL) 75 47
64 Motte, Tyler C Vancouver (NHL) 74 16
70 Pearson, Tanner LW Vancouver (NHL) 19 12
Pittsburgh (NHL) 44 14
Los Angeles (NHL) 17 1
49 Perron, Francis LW San Jose (AHL) 63 47
40 Pettersson, Elias C Vancouver (NHL) 71 66
26 Roussel, Antoine LW Vancouver (NHL) 65 31
60 Sadowy, Dylan LW Grand Rapids (AHL) 14 1
Toledo (ECHL) 43 46
59 Schaller, Tim C Vancouver (NHL) 47 10
61 Sorenson, Tanner F Kalamazoo (ECHL) 55 64
Winterthur (Swiss) 8 5
62 Stevenson, Dyson RW Utica (AHL) 3 0
Whichita (ECHL) 39 29
20 Sutter, Brandon C Vancouver (NHL) 26 6
18 Virtanen, Jake RW Vancouver (NHL) 70 25

DEFENCEMEN
# PLAYER POS 18.19 CLUB GP PTS
4 Benn, Jordie D Montreal (NHL) 81 22
55 Biega, Alex D Vancouver (NHL) 41 16
Utica (AHL) 3 2
82 Blujus, Dylan D Utica (AHL) 43 8
56 Brisebois, Guillaume D Vancouver (NHL) 8 0
Utica (AHL) 49 11
63 Chatfield, Jalen D Utica (AHL) 34 6
23 Edler, Alexander D Vancouver (NHL) 56 34
4 Eliot, Mitch D Sarnia (OHL) 66 55
5 Fantenberg, Oscar D Calgary (NHL) 15 1
Los Angeles (NHL) 46 3
84 Frye, Zachary D San Jose (AHL) 7 2
Orlando (ECHL) 25 16
43 Hughes, Quinn D Vancouver (NHL) 5 3
U. of Michigan 32 33
48 Juolevi, Olli D Utica (AHL) 18 13
93 Leblanc, Stefan D Utica (AHL) 25 6
57 Myers, Tyler D Winnipeg (NHL) 80 31
74 PetGrave, Matt D Utica (AHL) 12 2
Brampton (ECHL) 50 40
3 Rafferty, Brogan D Vancouver (NHL) 2 0
Quinnipiac (ECAC) 38 24
29 Sautner, Ashton D Vancouver (NHL) 17 1
51 Stecher, Troy D Vancouver (NHL) 68 11
8 Tanev, Chris D Vancouver (NHL) 42 11
34 Teves, Josh D Vancouver (NHL) 1 0
D Princeton (ECAC) 30 3
95 Thow, Aaron D Utica (AHL) 6 0
Clarkson (ECAC) 39 8
73 Warm, Will* D Edmonton (WHL) 33 0
52 Woo, Jett D Moose Jaw (WHL) 62 12
GOALIES
# PLAYER POS 18.19 CLUB GP W
32 Bachman, Richard G Vancouver (NHL) 1 0
Utica (AHL) 9 5
35 Demko, Thatcher G Vancouver (NHL) 9 4
Utica (AHL) 16 8
75 DiPietro, Michael G Vancouver (NHL) 1 0
Ottawa (OHL) 17 12
Windsor (OHL) 21 11
30 Kielly, Jake G Clarkson (ECAC) 39 26
31 McIntyre, Zane G Providence (AHL) 46 25
25 Markstrom, Jacob G Vancouver (NHL) 60 28
76 Silovs, Arturs G HC Riga (MHL) 47 18
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 11 @ 9:13 PM ET
I am thinking the same thing. How do you pay a player twice. I could see a lot of mid range buyouts and probably brought for less money.

I just bought out Baertschi's last year and 1.7

Sign him to a 1 year 900 k deal and Van saves 700 k

- manvanfan


Good idea but can't
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:23 PM ET
Good idea but can't

- VANTEL

Please keep reading. According to rules it's allowed if not found "intentional"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:24 PM ET
Loui Eriksson is “on the same page” as his head coach, and says he’ll take on any role he’s asked to this coming season.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 9:25 PM ET
Please keep reading. According to rules it's allowed if not found "intentional"
- manvanfan


So who's getting bought out for next season...Sutter or Sven?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:27 PM ET
Former Canadiens forward Brandon Prust and his wife, Quebec television personality and model Maripier Morin, are splitting up.

Prust and Morin both announced an end to their relationship on Instagram Saturday. They had been together for 10 years and became one of the most famous celebrity couples in Montreal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:28 PM ET
So who's getting bought out for next season...Sutter or Sven?
- NuckUp

I already bought out Sven. Please see comments above.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 11 @ 9:30 PM ET
Please keep reading. According to rules it's allowed if not found "intentional"
- manvanfan



Canucks can not put anyone else on Buyout this year . I believe they have to wait until next year now. They don't have a second buyout seeing they didn't have anyone on arbitration rights. I think that is the situation. Next year yes
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 11 @ 9:33 PM ET
Former Canadiens forward Brandon Prust and his wife, Quebec television personality and model Maripier Morin, are splitting up.

Prust and Morin both announced an end to their relationship on Instagram Saturday. They had been together for 10 years and became one of the most famous celebrity couples in Montreal.

- manvanfan




slow news day?

So seems that Brock will miss training camp.
That sucks and I didn't see that coming tbh.
Every day his misses of camp will push people towards the trade Brock camp.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 9:33 PM ET
I already bought out Sven. Please see comments above.
- manvanfan


Ah so Sutter is going on LTIR.... all non intentional ... cap free for Petey and Hughes next contracts
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:34 PM ET
Canucks can not put anyone else on Buyout this year . I believe they have to wait until next year now. They don't have a second buyout seeing they didn't have anyone on arbitration rights. I think that is the situation. Next year yes
- VANTEL

I had said "I bought out Baertschi's last year"

Which would be next season as he has two years remaining.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 11 @ 9:35 PM ET


slow news day?

So seems that Brock will miss training camp.
That sucks and I didn't see that coming tbh.
Every day his misses of camp will push people towards the trade Brock camp.

- dbot


#BBGTFO
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:35 PM ET
Ah so Sutter is going on LTIR.... all non intentional ... cap free for Petey and Hughes next contracts
- NuckUp

Buying out Baert is next season. Sutter going on LTIR is this season and next probably.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 11 @ 9:36 PM ET


slow news day?

So seems that Brock will miss training camp.
That sucks and I didn't see that coming tbh.
Every day his misses of camp will push people towards the trade Brock camp.

- dbot

Any news right now until hockey starts about hockey is worthy news. Got to get back into the swing of things.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Sep 11 @ 9:41 PM ET
Loui Eriksson is “on the same page” as his head coach, and says he’ll take on any role he’s asked to this coming season.
- manvanfan


Yeah saw that coming when he showed up early to practice with Beagle. He's getting ready for 4th line and PK duty. Looks like Motte will be getting waived instead.
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