Todd Cordell: On Smith-Pelly, Gillies' struggles, Bennett's chance generation and more

Todd Cordell: On Smith-Pelly, Gillies' struggles, Bennett's chance generation and more
- ToddCordellCGY

Evidently word is Gilles hasnt really recovered from that hip surgery, which is a shame. The Flames have invested the time & $$$ in him but it looks like he is a fraction of the goalie that he was in College. Too bad. Many of us had high hopes for him. Wonder when the Flames are going to make some cuts & assignments, its time.

There is a few things on my wish list.

trade Frolik and Janko... there’s a couple young bucks that look ready to fill those spots.

With the salary saved get chucky inked for 5.

Let Lindholm center a line and give Benny.’ or Dube a serious look on the 1st. That gives us some serious depth.

There is a few things on my wish list.

trade Frolik and Janko... there’s a couple young bucks that look ready to fill those spots.

With the salary saved get chucky inked for 5.

Let Lindholm center a line and give Benny.’ or Dube a serious look on the 1st. That gives us some serious depth.
- jessehub

Agree on Fro and Janko.
Probably not getting an impact player back on these deals but it wouldn't be the worst thing for the Flames to stockpile some picks if we can.

They both are good on the PK though so that would need to be considered.

Trading Jankowski is the best way to have a seriously depleted roster once a few injuries inevitably happen.

Trading Jankowski is the best way to have a seriously depleted roster once a few injuries inevitably happen.
- redseerpf

Why? We have Monahan, Lindholm, Backlund, Ryan, Dube even Quine is a centre.

Trading Jankowski is silly. Not saying he is going to be a 100 point guy or first line Center, but He is going to be a very solid 3rd line possibly down the road 2 nd line Center.

Why? We have Monahan, Lindholm, Backlund, Ryan, Dube even Quine is a centre.
- Kevin R

Why trade him? He fills a role the team needs, he's not getting paid a lot, he won't bring back a lot, he's only 25, still under team control, they don't really have anyone else like him, they don't really have any holes in their lineup besides in goal, any of the players you listed could also play on the wing. I'd take a team with 12 natural centres all day.

Unless they're trading him in a package to get a goalie upgrade, what's the point? The team exactly as it is right now is a Cup contender. Why make changes unless they're forced to?

Last game Janko looked slow and unengaged.
I'd rather have Quine get a shot over Janko... He'd be cheaper too
Jankos next qualifying offer will be worth more than he should get if he keeps playing at this level. There are hungry guys looking to play that role on the cheap right now.

DSP looked terrible last night and Yelesin stood out for all the wrong reasons.... , but no one was as bad as Gillies.

Last game Janko looked slow and unengaged.
I'd rather have Quine get a shot over Janko... He'd be cheaper too
Jankos next qualifying offer will be worth more than he should get if he keeps playing at this level. There are hungry guys looking to play that role on the cheap right now.

DSP looked terrible last night and Yelesin stood out for all the wrong reasons.... , but no one was as bad as Gillies.
- cpltanto

Exactly! & Janko will get us a return with no contract to take back.

Why trade him? He fills a role the team needs, he's not getting paid a lot, he won't bring back a lot, he's only 25, still under team control, they don't really have anyone else like him, they don't really have any holes in their lineup besides in goal, any of the players you listed could also play on the wing. I'd take a team with 12 natural centres all day.

Unless they're trading him in a package to get a goalie upgrade, what's the point? The team exactly as it is right now is a Cup contender. Why make changes unless they're forced to?
- Hunkulese

If we cant sign Chucky to a bridge deal we will be forced to trade someone to make room for him and center is our position of strength.
Janko makes $1.675 and is a center so there would be several teams interested in him and we should be able add a 2nd rounder or possibly a 1st in this deal.
I dont think there will be a lineup of teams wanting to trade for Frolik at $4.3 per.

Trading Jankowski for nothing makes the Flames worse. Czarnik will be shipped out before Jankowski if it's just a cost-cutting move. There are zero spots in the lineup that make sense for Czarnik or Quine on an every-night basis. Neither of them makes sense in the bottom six and neither are good enough to play in the Flames top six. Both should be hoping to be shipped to a bad team where they can get top six time.

Trading Jankowski for nothing makes the Flames worse. Czarnik will be shipped out before Jankowski if it's just a cost-cutting move. There are zero spots in the lineup that make sense for Czarnik or Quine on an every-night basis. Neither of them makes sense in the bottom six and neither are good enough to play in the Flames top six. Both should be hoping to be shipped to a bad team where they can get top six time.
- Hunkulese

100% agree Hunkulese about trading Janko for picks makes us weaker but cutting loose Czarnik or Quine WONT create the cap space we need to sign Chucky unless he takes a bridge.
Johnny, Mony, Lindy, Benny, Backs, Dube, Ryan, Mangiapane and Chucky IMO are all ahead of Janko on our depth chart. Lucic and likely Frolik are untradeable and Quine and Czarnik would probably bring zero back in return.
If we cant get anything back for Frolik would you rather waive him than trade Janko?

100% agree Hunkulese about trading Janko for picks makes us weaker but cutting loose Czarnik or Quine WONT create the cap space we need to sign Chucky unless he takes a bridge.
Johnny, Mony, Lindy, Benny, Backs, Dube, Ryan, Mangiapane and Chucky IMO are all ahead of Janko on our depth chart. Lucic and likely Frolik are untradeable and Quine and Czarnik would probably bring zero back in return.
If we cant get anything back for Frolik would you rather waive him than trade Janko?
- DEDDIE

Waiving Frolik doesn't accomplish anything. There's probably a trade to be made with Frolik, but Treliving would probably rather keep him if possible. Frolik is better than anyone else that would replace him if the Flames only care about this season. Frolik is better than Jankowski if they're trying to win a Cup now.

Waiving Frolik doesn't accomplish anything. There's probably a trade to be made with Frolik, but Treliving would probably rather keep him if possible. Frolik is better than anyone else that would replace him if the Flames only care about this season. Frolik is better than Jankowski if they're trying to win a Cup now.
- Hunkulese

If the Flames waive Frolik and he is claimed they would free up 4.3 in cap space.
How is that nothing?
Frolik is a good player so he would likely be claimed.
I think the only way you can trade Frolik is to retain salary, take a salary back or attach a pick to him.
If Chucky wont do a bridge how do you propose we sign him?

If the Flames waive Frolik and he is claimed they would free up 4.3 in cap space.
How is that nothing?
Frolik is a good player so he would likely be claimed.
I think the only way you can trade Frolik is to retain salary, take a salary back or attach a pick to him.
If Chucky wont do a bridge how do you propose we sign him?
- DEDDIE

They have money to sign Tkachuk without getting rid of Frolik. I agree with Hunk in that the Flames are better off keeping Frolik. Dump Czarnik and free up another million+.

How does Rinaldo look

Keep Brodie, keep Frolik, keep Jankowski, and sign Tkachuk. Dump, bury or waive anybody else we have to. Dump all PTO’s not on 2 ways as well, we can’t afford them.

Playing the Jets tonight with basically a full Ahl team minus a few. Last chance for them.

Waiving Frolik doesn't accomplish anything. There's probably a trade to be made with Frolik, but Treliving would probably rather keep him if possible. Frolik is better than anyone else that would replace him if the Flames only care about this season. Frolik is better than Jankowski if they're trying to win a Cup now.
- Hunkulese

Well Brad would know...only way he would waive him is if there was no trade available

Disagree on Janko. He played 79 of 82 games last year and was on the #1 PK line all season. Ryan could replace him but really I think he is about the only one of your list that could which would leave a hole for the #2 PP and #2 PK . Getting Janko's contract off the books is not going to be enough to get Tkachuk signed. Not to mention Quine and Czarnik are UFA's next year and Janko is still an RFA.