If the concern is losing Biteto and Beaulieau on waivers, than I am questioning the sanity of Jets management!

I stick by the theory that Niku did something to upset Maurice and that is why he is not playing for the big club! Essentially, Maurice is "Petanning" Niku!
- TheUltimateJet

No....Niku and Ville are clearly both better than current rostered D. The main factor is, do you want to risk burning a year of their nice entry level deal? I wouldn't. This team can compete today and find a temporary solution while those rookies continue to develope. This team is in great shape going forward. I agree Biteto and Beaulieau do not belong in the NHL. They simply are terrible. But guys like Poolman and Sbisa are getting better every game, and another D may just hit the waive wire shortly, or maybe Big Buff returns in 2-3 months feeling great. You never know. I doubt anybody is mad that Makar remained in the minors 2 years after being drafted. He was a top prospect but Colorado waited, and now this 21 year old rookie is going to be a top D for 3 years, under 1M AAV.

I was referring to Spacek over Harkins....nothing to do with Niku.

Jets have lost a few right hand shorting forwards to injury.

Mark Scheifele is amazing!!! I was supposed to fly out to Florida to watch the game tonight. Too bad things didn’t pan out. It would have been nice to meet Scheifele’s parents. They should come to all of his games. Once I found out they were going to be there, I knew that Scheifele was going to have a BIG game.
- TheUltimateJet

Sounds a tad facetious, but maybe you could have met them as there was only 3000 fans there. My friend is flying out Sat morning and going to the Tampa game. He is going to be tired as he leaves early morning. I declined that flight and booked for Wednesday morning flight instead and somehow managed to book an even worse flight only realizing I had selected a milk run, Minny, Cinninati, Orlando. Upon realizing my mistake, I contacted the agent and for basically the price of the ticket they could change it. Might see if we can take in an ECHL game if there is time and if they are playing . Never done that before.

No....Niku and Ville are clearly both better than current rostered D. The main factor is, do you want to risk burning a year of their nice entry level deal? I wouldn't. This team can compete today and find a temporary solution while those rookies continue to develope. This team is in great shape going forward. I agree Biteto and Beaulieau do not belong in the NHL. They simply are terrible. But guys like Poolman and Sbisa are getting better every game, and another D may just hit the waive wire shortly, or maybe Big Buff returns in 2-3 months feeling great. You never know. I doubt anybody is mad that Makar remained in the minors 2 years after being drafted. He was a top prospect but Colorado waited, and now this 21 year old rookie is going to be a top D for 3 years, under 1M AAV.
- bikeguy99

Niku is an RFA at the end of the year. I'm sure he is real happy that he sits in the AHL in his contract year.
Sure keep Heinola off the Jets to have 1 year of savings, then what are the Jets doing with Gustafsson? I'm not saying it's even his fault but his corsi is at 27.94%. That must be great for development play 6 minutes a game and get hemmed in your own zone.

Sounds a tad facetious, but maybe you could have met them as there was only 3000 fans there. My friend is flying out Sat morning and going to the Tampa game. He is going to be tired as he leaves early morning. I declined that flight and booked for Wednesday morning flight instead and somehow managed to book an even worse flight only realizing I had selected a milk run, Minny, Cinninati, Orlando. Upon realizing my mistake, I contacted the agent and for basically the price of the ticket they could change it. Might see if we can take in an ECHL game if there is time and if they are playing . Never done that before.
- CharlieDog

I would have better odds of meeting Scheifele's parents at a Panthers home game than a Jets one So many empty seats!

Scheifele is my favorite Jet and he keeps getting better!!! Love that guy!

I would have better odds of meeting Scheifele's parents at a Panthers home game than a Jets one So many empty seats!

Scheifele is my favorite Jet and he keeps getting better!!! Love that guy!
- TheUltimateJet

Agree he continues to get better. No doubt about it. I have to say that Laine is also becoming a pass master, he thread the needle a couple of times with his passing. I am pleased to see him expanding his repertoire of talent. Can't score, no problem, I'll feed someone else then!

Sounds a tad facetious, but maybe you could have met them as there was only 3000 fans there. My friend is flying out Sat morning and going to the Tampa game. He is going to be tired as he leaves early morning. I declined that flight and booked for Wednesday morning flight instead and somehow managed to book an even worse flight only realizing I had selected a milk run, Minny, Cinninati, Orlando. Upon realizing my mistake, I contacted the agent and for basically the price of the ticket they could change it. Might see if we can take in an ECHL game if there is time and if they are playing . Never done that before.
- CharlieDog

FYI....Swoop flies WPG-HAM-Ft. Lauderdale ( and reverse) for under $200.00.

FYI....Swoop flies WPG-HAM-Ft. Lauderdale ( and reverse) for under $200.00.
- jetsnation

Thx, ya, I royally messed this booking up and should have tried Swoop. Now I have clubs going on the milk run as well so hope they arrive at the same place I do.

If rumours are true that Detroit is shopping Athanasiou, the Jets should be in on it! The guy is super fast and would look great in between Roslovic and Ehlers!

With Ladd being on waivers, we should also pick him up. Our lines could be with Athanasiou

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Athanasiou-Roslovic
Ladd-Little-Wheeler
Copp-Lowry-Perrault

It will be like past meets present!

With Ladd being on waivers, we should also pick him up. Our lines could be with Athanasiou

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Athanasiou-Roslovic
Ladd-Little-Wheeler
Copp-Lowry-Perrault

It will be like past meets present!
- TheUltimateJet

Is it April 1st? Why not Kovie as well?

Is it April 1st? Why not Kovie as well?
- CharlieDog

Hey that’s not a bad idea! It would close the loop on the Thrasher/Jets franchise!

With Ladd being on waivers, we should also pick him up. Our lines could be with Athanasiou

Connor-Scheifele-Laine
Ehlers-Athanasiou-Roslovic
Ladd-Little-Wheeler
Copp-Lowry-Perrault

It will be like past meets present!
- TheUltimateJet

If you tell people Ladd is good in the room, I'm sure some fans would want him.
What would you call that 3rd line? The Wasted Cap Space (WCS) line.

If you tell people Ladd is good in the room, I'm sure some fans would want him.
What would you call that 3rd line? The Wasted Cap Space (WCS) line.
- BWJumper

Ladd is great in the room!

Ladd is great in the room!
- TheUltimateJet

Come on guys, Ladd is a buyout candidate with 21 mill still owing. This year and 3 more after. I know you are just having fun with it but he’s done like dinner. Just thank the hockey gods he never signed that 6 x 6 in Wpg.

There is no cap left either, thank goodness.

Moose, six wins in a row, Harkins is racking up points, Vesalainen and Chebisov are starting to show life and the Birdman is racking up wins and improving his average.

Come on guys, Ladd is a buyout candidate with 21 mill still owing. This year and 3 more after. I know you are just having fun with it but he’s done like dinner. Just thank the hockey gods he never signed that 6 x 6 in Wpg.

There is no cap left either, thank goodness.

Moose, six wins in a row, Harkins is racking up points, Vesalainen and Chebisov are starting to show life and the Birdman is racking up wins and improving his average.
- CharlieDog

Berdin is right on pace to be the backup to the Hellebuyck next year, and in a Seattle uniform the year after that.

Berdin is right on pace to be the backup to the Hellebuyck next year, and in a Seattle uniform the year after that.
- BWJumper

Nope, I disagree. You have to expose one goalie and that goalie will be either Broissoit or if something happens, they will pickup another AHL'er with, what, they need to play 6 games? Broissoit only has 1 year deal, I thought it was 2 but its only 1. They will sign him again for another year, I would put money (or coffee) on that one for expansion purposes.

These types of goalers don't come around too often, I mean puck playing goalies. He already has an assist this year and apparently just missed scoring a goal. I will predict he also scores this year.

Birdman folks, I will predict, ain't goin anywhere for a few years.

And, you can see how Phoenix is protecting Comrie, even though they are not playing him. Hasn't played a game yet and sent him down for conditioning, they know someone will pick him off of waivers if it wasn't for that conditioning stint.

Nope, I disagree. You have to expose one goalie and that goalie will be either Broissoit or if something happens, they will pickup another AHL'er with, what, they need to play 6 games? Broissoit only has 1 year deal, I thought it was 2 but its only 1. They will sign him again for another year, I would put money (or coffee) on that one for expansion purposes.

These types of goalers don't come around too often, I mean puck playing goalies. He already has an assist this year and apparently just missed scoring a goal. I will predict he also scores this year.

Birdman folks, I will predict, ain't goin anywhere for a few years.

And, you can see how Phoenix is protecting Comrie, even though they are not playing him. Hasn't played a game yet and sent him down for conditioning, they know someone will pick him off of waivers if it wasn't for that conditioning stint.
- CharlieDog

You're talking minimum requirements. Jets can only protect one goalie CharlieDog. It's Hellebuyck or Berdin without making a deal with Seattle.

Jets can only protect one goalie CharlieDog. It's Hellebuyck or Berdin without making a deal with Seattle.
- BWJumper

what's the rule if birdman doesn't play NHL next year (or plays only a few games)? If Brossoit moves on and the jets only have one NHL goalie under contract would Berdin still be exposed?

Niku is an RFA at the end of the year. I'm sure he is real happy that he sits in the AHL in his contract year.
Sure keep Heinola off the Jets to have 1 year of savings, then what are the Jets doing with Gustafsson? I'm not saying it's even his fault but his corsi is at 27.94%. That must be great for development play 6 minutes a game and get hemmed in your own zone.
- BWJumper

Gustafsson has been lack-luster, and has not given me any reason to worry about burning a year off his contract. Having Niku in the AHL is a little odd given the lack of depth on the blue line, but it certainly won't make him expensive to retain next season. I still think Niku will notch 35+ games as a Jet this season. Beaulieu and Bitetto are simply terrible and do not belong in the NHL, while Dahlstrom has shown some promise, but ultimately needs to improve his skating to be effective. Assuming Buff does not return, the Jets most deserving and optimal lineup would be:

Morrissey Pionk
Heinolo Niku
Kuli Poolman

Not a rock solid lineup, but for a 12.955M cap hit, it is very impressive. Probably keep Sbisa as the 7th D, he is cheap and competent as a bottom pairing.

Knew it a few years back "POOLMAN"

You're talking minimum requirements. Jets can only protect one goalie CharlieDog. It's Hellebuyck or Berdin without making a deal with Seattle.
- BWJumper

Not necessarily. See expansion rules. https://www.nhl.com/news/...ghts-followed/c-302586918

Here are a few excerpts.

Current NHL teams can protect seven forwards, three defensemen and one goalie, or eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goalie, under the following conditions.

* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.

* All first- and second-year NHL players, and all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward protection limits.

In addition, all NHL teams must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the draft:

* One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2021-22 and b) played in at least 40 NHL games the prior season or played in at least 70 NHL games in the prior two seasons.

* Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2021-22 and b) played at least 40 NHL games the prior season or played in at least 70 NHL games in the prior two seasons.

* One goalie who is under contract in 2021-22 or will be a restricted free agent at the end of his current contract immediately prior to 2021-22. If a team elects to make a restricted free agent goalie available to meet this requirement, that goalie must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the team's protected list.

He (Birdman) would be exempt, even if he was to play in the NHL next year I believe. So, I am sure they will have a goalie under contract besides Helle in order to be exposed.

Knew it a few years back "POOLMAN"
- sparky1957

Poolman and Niku with be regulars next year. The Jets need Poolman's 875K salary for one more year along with Nikus next contract. BTW, Illegal curve is now also advocating Nikus' ascension to the bigs.

Morrisey - Pionk BTW, Pionk is a pleasant surprise IMOP cause everyone from the Rangers spoke about his defensive liability.
Heinola (next year for sure)

Kuli gone next year, Bealieau gone next year, Bitteto, Dahlstrom, all gone next year. Maybe Sbisa gets a contract next year.

Samberg next year (I heard he will sign) and New Dman? Who will it be but I think the Jets will try to land a big name D for next year (in replacement of Buf) and this core going forward would be awesome.

Not necessarily. See expansion rules. https://www.nhl.com/news/...ghts-followed/c-302586918

Here are a few excerpts.

Current NHL teams can protect seven forwards, three defensemen and one goalie, or eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goalie, under the following conditions.

* All players with no movement clauses at the time of the draft, and who decline to waive those clauses, must be protected and will be counted toward their team's applicable protection limits.

* All first- and second-year NHL players, and all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward protection limits.

In addition, all NHL teams must meet the following minimum requirements regarding players exposed for selection in the draft:

* One defenseman who is a) under contract in 2021-22 and b) played in at least 40 NHL games the prior season or played in at least 70 NHL games in the prior two seasons.

* Two forwards who are a) under contract in 2021-22 and b) played at least 40 NHL games the prior season or played in at least 70 NHL games in the prior two seasons.

* One goalie who is under contract in 2021-22 or will be a restricted free agent at the end of his current contract immediately prior to 2021-22. If a team elects to make a restricted free agent goalie available to meet this requirement, that goalie must have received his qualifying offer prior to the submission of the team's protected list.

He (Birdman) would be exempt, even if he was to play in the NHL next year I believe. So, I am sure they will have a goalie under contract besides Helle in order to be exposed.
- CharlieDog

You just quoted me the Jets can only protect one goalie. That means every other goalie that qualifies for the Jets is available. First and second year players are guys on their entry level contracts which Berdin is and is currently in his second year it has nothing to do with games played, and he is RFA in 2021-22.

You just quoted me the Jets can only protect one goalie. That means every other goalie that qualifies for the Jets is available. First and second year players are guys on their entry level contracts which Berdin is and is currently in his second year it has nothing to do with games played, and he is RFA in 2021-22.
- BWJumper

Reading the rules seems quite confusing. Different rules on different sites that I go to.

What you are saying here is what I believe to be correct, although not sure.

Players exempt from selection, as I read it, are players only playing their first year of their entry draft right now, or less, like Vesalainen and Heinola. I believe that Berdin would have to be protected or risk losing him, unless a deal is struck with the Seattle Totems.

Possible Jet list:
G- Helle
D- Morrissey, Pionk, Niku
F - Scheifele, Wheeler, Ehlers, Connor, Laine, Roslovic, Lowry

???