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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 15 @ 8:12 AM ET
If the Canucks had scored more goals than the Stars they would have won.
- 1970vintage

Red Carpet baby...

We love teams on B2B's and players that haven't scored in awhile (Seguin).

Welcome to Van boys here's some points!! lol

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
At least everyone has October to celebrate.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 15 @ 10:31 AM ET
At least everyone has October to celebrate.
- Marwood

Calm down, it's not the end of the world, it's November.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 15 @ 10:40 AM ET
Calm down, it's not the end of the world, it's November.
- NorthNuck

Team is still on pace for around 93 points.

Markstrom has 1 win in his last 7 games.

Win 4 of the next 5 games and all wil be forgotten
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
Team is still on pace for around 93 points.

Markstrom has 1 win in his last 7 games.

Win 4 of the next 5 games and all wil be forgotten

- manvanfan

The thing that I've noticed as different from the losing streak last year is that their spirit doesn't look broken partway through these games. They've been in all of them and have been a bit snake bitten at times. A couple of lucky bounces and they're probably closer to .500 over the last few.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
At least everyone has October to celebrate.
- Marwood

It's November champ...relax.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Team is still on pace for around 93 points.

Markstrom has 1 win in his last 7 games.

Win 4 of the next 5 games and all wil be forgotten

- manvanfan

Yep 90-92 points no playoffs...which is fine.

As long as the improvements are there and moving up in the standings all good.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
The thing that I've noticed as different from the losing streak last year is that their spirit doesn't look broken partway through these games. They've been in all of them and have been a bit snake bitten at times. A couple of lucky bounces and they're probably closer to .500 over the last few.
- NorthNuck

They aren't being beaten badly in these games.

Those bounces I think need to be earned. Turnovers in the past few games. Those stretches passes are being picked off constantly.

Vancouver has a skilled team that needs to build up to the other teams blue line.

I felt that when I was watching yesterday I saw two different teams. One that tried to rush the puck up the ice constantly and one that passed the puck around, waited for space and moved up as a unit and they controlled the game much better.

Van has 3 centers that are good at carrying the puck through the neutral zone and mobile defence.

It was D to D and a stretch pass up the boards that was picked off constantly.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
The effort was there and the game was watchable, unlike many of the games, over the past few seasons.

When can I start posting potential picks, in the 12-15 range?😁
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
Yep 90-92 points no playoffs...which is fine.

As long as the improvements are there and moving up in the standings all good.

- LordHumungous

At the start of the season we were all happy go lucky with how awesome they were playing. Now injuries are happening and not key injuries but still. Schedule gets tougher.

I think this team is better than the way it's played in the past 5 games which has led me to be a little harder on Green. I knew they weren't going to keep putting up 5 games a goal but this team has quite a bit of offence that has slowed to a crawl. It's much better than 2 goals a game.

Defence was scoring and that has dried up pretty good. If you are going to stretch pass from your own zone, the defenders are not going to be involved by the time they get there.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
They aren't being beaten badly in these games.

Those bounces I think need to be earned. Turnovers in the past few games. Those stretches passes are being picked off constantly.

Vancouver has a skilled team that needs to build up to the other teams blue line.

I felt that when I was watching yesterday I saw two different teams. One that tried to rush the puck up the ice constantly and one that passed the puck around, waited for space and moved up as a unit and they controlled the game much better.

Van has 3 centers that are good at carrying the puck through the neutral zone and mobile defence.

It was D to D and a stretch pass up the boards that was picked off constantly.

- manvanfan

Yeah, I think they look exactly like what they are - a young team still learning how to be consistent.

There's plenty of little things that can be improved upon but at least we can see that the foundation for a good team is there, and that should lead to a few more wins by the end of the year.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 15 @ 11:24 AM ET
Can we end the Loudini experiment, much rather see Zacmac, Bailey or Graovac on the ice for the 6-8 minutes per game, than see him out on the ice.
That 4th line spot should be used on someone who can at least bump and grind a little bit.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 15 @ 11:28 AM ET
It's November champ...relax.
- LordHumungous

I know. That's why I was saying to keep celebrating winning the cup in October.
Champ. lol
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
The effort was there and the game was watchable, unlike many of the games, over the past few seasons.

When can I start posting potential picks, in the 12-15 range?😁

- Reubenkincade

Sunday morning.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 15 @ 11:44 AM ET
Sunday morning.
- Marwood


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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 15 @ 12:45 PM ET
Manilow understands...

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 15 @ 12:57 PM ET
Larchied was bang on, this team is close to being a playoff team but 2 years away from being true contenders for the cup.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
Larchied was bang on, this team is close to being a playoff team but 2 years away from being true contenders for the cup.
- Bettmanhatesus


I can't agree with that because we've seen what injuries to our bottom six has done. Wait until it starts happening to our top six. To be a playoff team you need depth to fill in while your injured guys recover. To be a true contender you need so much more.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 15 @ 1:12 PM ET
I can't agree with that because we've seen what injuries to our bottom six has done. Wait until it starts happening to our top six. To be a playoff team you need depth to fill in while your injured guys recover. To be a true contender you need so much more.
- bloatedmosquito

Yes there is the injury curse this team has, the depth is getting better and some interesting prospects in the system. No team can replace top 6 injuries.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
I can't agree with that because we've seen what injuries to our bottom six has done. Wait until it starts happening to our top six. To be a playoff team you need depth to fill in while your injured guys recover. To be a true contender you need so much more.
- bloatedmosquito

Pits won the cup twice with Crosby and Malkin. They usually missed the playoffs if either spent significant time injured. EDM will be the same, most teams are. A lot of strong teams miss the playoffs when one of their top 2 misses significant time.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Manilow understands...


- bloatedmosquito


Lol
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yes there is the injury curse this team has, the depth is getting better and some interesting prospects in the system. No team can replace top 6 injuries.
- Bettmanhatesus


Again, I can't agree with that. You might not be able to replace with same level of skill, but this is where I think coaching has an effect; systems and roster manipulation. I don't need to go into details for you to know what I'm getting at.

Here's my other issue about the "true contender in two years statement". I don't think Green will be coaching this team in two years. When there is a coaching change there's usually a bit of a reset. Cup contenders don't typically go through changes like that mid run (there are exceptions of course).

I think it's too early yet to start predicting when this team will be cup competitive.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 15 @ 1:25 PM ET
Lol
- Reubenkincade


Sad songs say so much.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Nov 15 @ 1:27 PM ET
Again, I can't agree with that. You might not be able to replace with same level of skill, but this is where I think coaching has an effect; systems and roster manipulation. I don't need to go into details for you to know what I'm getting at.

Here's my other issue about the "true contender in two years statement". I don't think Green will be coaching this team in two years. When there is a coaching change there's usually a bit of a reset. Cup contenders don't typically go through changes like that mid run (there are exceptions of course).

I think it's too early yet to start predicting when this team will be cup competitive.

- bloatedmosquito

If things go well they will but you can say that about every team.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Nov 15 @ 1:30 PM ET
Again, I can't agree with that. You might not be able to replace with same level of skill, but this is where I think coaching has an effect; systems and roster manipulation. I don't need to go into details for you to know what I'm getting at.

Here's my other issue about the "true contender in two years statement". I don't think Green will be coaching this team in two years. When there is a coaching change there's usually a bit of a reset. Cup contenders don't typically go through changes like that mid run (there are exceptions of course).

I think it's too early yet to start predicting when this team will be cup competitive.

- bloatedmosquito


No it’s not... We’re the 2028 Stanley Cup Champions. Plan the parade.
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