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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:43 AM ET
who are the players?
- senstroll


For the most part, it's been Cousins-Thompson-Suzuki.

But now it's Cousins-Thompson-Hudon since Drouin got injured.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:43 AM ET
Max went full Max again
- Steven_Seagull

He tried to use zone starts as a point here

ffs
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:43 AM ET
Lines at Monday's practice:

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Kapanen
Mikheyev - Spezza - Petan
Timashov - Shore - Gauthier

I'd swap Petan with Engvall .
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:44 AM ET
who are the players?
- senstroll


thompson weal and cousins

an ex king and 2 ex flyers.


i loved weal from his start when he was in philly. those 3 are by far some of the best pick ups by bergy in his tenure. that and jeff petry.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Nov 19 @ 11:44 AM ET
Lines at Monday's practice:

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Kapanen
Mikheyev - Spezza - Petan
Timashov - Shore - Gauthier

I'd swap Engvall with Petan.

- zazzle

And what are the d pairings.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:44 AM ET
i know that Lucas was questioning the importance of a 4th line with a team like the leafs.... (so dumb to even ask that question)

the habs forth line has 21 goals and 57 points... i cant emphasize how much better this leafs team would be if they had a 3rd and 4th line like the habs do.

the players that need to come in have to be like the habs or even the 4th that philly has. grit, tenacity and endless pressure

edit: having lines that can play a 200 foot game will help aleviate the def pressures and are probably easier to aquire then high end def def.

- munky123

The Leafs haven't had a chance to have a 3rd line this year. They constantly have 2/3 of their top 9 players not in the lineup.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:45 AM ET
For the most part, it's been Cousins-Thompson-Suzuki.

But now it's Cousins-Thompson-Hudon since Drouin got injured.

- Scabeh



^^^


yes, this. nice update. we got suzuki on the 2nd now.

still the rotation of players on the 3rd and 4th lines, has been impressive.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:46 AM ET
Lines at Monday's practice:

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Kapanen
Mikheyev - Spezza - Petan
Timashov - Shore - Gauthier

I'd swap Engvall with Petan.

- zazzle

Engvall is a C

He likely plays 4th line C...He is familiar with all the D zone starts he will get....
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:47 AM ET
Lines at Monday's practice:

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Kapanen
Mikheyev - Spezza - Petan
Timashov - Shore - Gauthier

I'd swap Engvall with Petan.

- zazzle


agreed... but won't happen because Dubas is attempting to showcase Petan in order to recoup another 6th round pick
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:49 AM ET
agreed... but won't happen because Dubas is attempting to showcase Petan in order to recoup another 6th round pick
- BorjeFan4Ever

You really like making up stuff to bring down Dubas don't you.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
The Leafs haven't had a chance to have a 3rd line this year. They constantly have 2/3 of their top 9 players not in the lineup.
- Santo_44



thats not what i mean, its the players. the types they have there. not the types that are going to carry you far when the top guns are not working.

then again, its a question of philosophy i guess. the habs have 3 basically 2nds lines and a 4th that could be a 3rd line. even lines that can score and back check/ play defence. i love this team make up. our def, i dunno if there is a faster skating back end... not the best or most skilled back end, but man can they skate and the fwds support really well.

i loved spezza. i would have taken him on my team anytime... but to ask him to do a 3rd line role.. i dunno.

edit. if bergy was up for it, id kick the tires on pecca from mtl. that guy deserves to play in the NHL.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
who are the players?
- senstroll


Their fourth line is basically Thompson & Cousins with a rotating cast of Weal, Poehling, Hudon . . .

Maybe the 21 goals is in their career.

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
And what are the d pairings.
- mykokes


this according to TSN.

Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Barrie
Marincin
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
The Leafs haven't had a chance to have a 3rd line this year. They constantly have 2/3 of their top 9 players not in the lineup.
- Santo_44


Not to use injuries as an excuse because every team has them, but it hasn't been easy..

Hyman, Tavares, Marner, Dermott, Kerfoot, and Moore have all been out at one point or another this season..


21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Just to prove a point, maybe?

If we take away 66% of the ice, take away his 57.3% corsi for and his 53.2 fenwick for %, we can see that Nylander is directly responsible for the teams 87.9 Save% when he is on 1/3rd of the ice?

- PatC80

If you would've said that using graphs
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
Engvall is a C

He likely plays 4th line C...He is familiar with all the D zone starts he will get....

- Santo_44



Wasn't he converted to a C due to injuries but is really a winger?

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
this according to TSN.

Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott - Barrie
Marincin

- zazzle



So the Rielly - Holl pairing lasted half of a practice?

Way to change things up, Babs....
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
So the Rielly - Holl pairing lasted half of a practice?

Way to change things up, Babs....

- PatC80


"Holl had his chance and he blew it"

- Mike Babcock
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
If you would've said that using graphs

- 21peter



Max's point is that it's all Nylander's fault that our goalies have a combined 87.9 Save% when he is on the ice..

No one else to blame, just Nylander.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Nov 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
Their fourth line is basically Thompson & Cousins with a rotating cast of Weal, Poehling, Hudon . . .

Maybe the 21 goals is in their career.

- Monkeypunk



no, its 21 goals as a line. 53 points from the 4th line this year

49 goals and 112 pointseason for the rest of the team
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
Engvall is a C

He likely plays 4th line C...He is familiar with all the D zone starts he will get....

- Santo_44


I think - and I'll stand corrected if someone knows better - that Engvall was naturally a winger who they startred trying to convert to centre last season as a guy who can challenge the Goat for 4th line C duties.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
You really like making up stuff to bring down Dubas don't you.
- Santo_44


absolutely...

its easy...just like misinterpreting the value of unproven statistics.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
Lines at Monday's practice:

Johnsson - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Kapanen
Mikheyev - Spezza - Petan
Timashov - Shore - Gauthier

I'd swap Petan with Engvall .

- zazzle

Still no Korshkov
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
agreed... but won't happen because Dubas is attempting to showcase Petan in order to recoup another 6th round pick
- BorjeFan4Ever



or use to trade for *cough* NYR backup goalie *cough*
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
absolutely...

its easy...just like misinterpreting the value of unproven statistics.

- BorjeFan4Ever


stupid dubas.

Babcock doesn't make any lineup decisions.

That is all Dubas.

Stupid Dubas for having Petan on the 3rd line.
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