Well, then he probably should've had more leverage to sign him at a lower dollar if he had zero interest signing anywhere else. He's a great player, but it really is a high cap hit for 6 years. I'd have signed it and dealt with it if I had to, as you are all going through, but I wouldn't be happy about it.
- RickJames77

Agreed. It appears Dubas' only choice was to sign him at that number or let him sit. I don't think the latter was/would have been an acceptable choice for leaf nation either.

LMAO now NFL teams are using the Leaf fans selfie meme from the pitt game

https://twitter.com/Chief...tatus/1196651100004405249

Leafs need to go 35-17-4 to reach 100 points from this point forward.


- CarlitoBrigante

Not a problem.
Leafs have Willie 'Selke' Nylander on the team - can go 45-7-4 easily.

Yeah, I don’t like Babs either.
- Steven_Seagull

Leafs need to go 35-17-4 to reach 100 points from this point forward.


- CarlitoBrigante

Play-like-piss 4 A-lex-is

this year should have 100% been a cup contending year. this team is nowhere near it. that by itself should be a fireable offense.

the move should be made towards a longer-term strategy.

if the cards are played right, 2-3 years from now when those contracts are better value because of the higher cap and player development, maybe we can be there.

then we'll have a couple cracks at it; until the big boys are due for their raises.
- Tumbleweed

And again, you are making that determination after 20 games... And you think that's an acceptable timeframe at the NHL level? It took 20 games to decide the entire strategy must be aborted, we must remove a GM and behind another plan which entails making moves in 3 years?

That's not how it works...

LMAO now NFL teams are using the Leaf fans selfie meme from the pitt game

https://twitter.com/Chief...tatus/1196651100004405249



- CarlitoBrigante

This (frank)ing gif is great.

Not a problem.
Leafs have Willie 'Selke' Nylander on the team - can go 45-7-4 easily.
- MaximusAurelius

that's true apparently - the stats support this.

Selkelander...

"make it so"

Not a problem.
Leafs have Willie 'Selke' Nylander on the team - can go 45-7-4 easily.
- MaximusAurelius

You are 100% the poster child for all the children in here who shouldn't be at the adults table because it's during school hours.

This (frank)ing gif is great.
- Scabeh

top 3 for sure...

Play-like-piss 4 A-lex-is
- Steven_Seagull

don't you really mean - just keep playing like you are - for Alexis?

btw....

it would be Leafy to draft Lefrenierre anyway... this is supposed to be a high-end d-man draft...

maybe they should trade down... get a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders

You are 100% the poster child for all the children in here who shouldn't be at the adults table because it's during school hours.
- joel878

You are 100% a guy that doesn't understand that it is actually better for children to be at the adults table.
Your comment shows your age and ignorance.

awesome...

can't wait until Dubas finally realizes that its 5pm.. and he moves Nylander for defensive help.

then blames Babcock.


- BorjeFan4Ever

That depends, Dubas could trade Nylander for a defensive d-man like Gudas, but if Babcock plays Gudas as an offensive defenseman and gives him PP1 time, then the trade would look even worse.

That depends, Dubas could trade Nylander for a defensive d-man like Gudas, but if Babcock plays Gudas as an offensive defenseman and gives him PP1 time, then the trade would look even worse.
- PatC80

even the thought of nylander for gudas makes me weep inside

must be the snowflake millennial in me

You are 100% a guy that doesn't understand that it is actually better for children to be at the adults table.
Your comment shows your age and ignorance.
- MaximusAurelius

You act like a child on here every day is what he is getting at.

It is one thing to have an opinion. However you spew your opinions like they are facts 50 times a day. If someone doesn't agree with you you say they don't know hockey.

You have bashed Nylander 50 times today in some sort of fashion. Get over it and act your age.

That depends, Dubas could trade Nylander for a defensive d-man like Gudas, but if Babcock plays Gudas as an offensive defenseman and gives him PP1 time, then the trade would look even worse.
- PatC80

not much risk of Dubas acquiring a player like Gudas...

too tall, too heavy...

I'm shocked that Dubas signed Mikheyev... probably had the profile for the wrong guy.

even the thought of nylander for gudas makes me weep inside

must be the snowflake millennial in me
- daeth

What a snowflake...

Nylander for Gudas and Gudas gets PP1 time over Rielly and Barrie because he's a gud pro.. It's happening. It's in the works already... Maybe? Probably not?

not much risk of Dubas acquiring a player like Gudas...

too tall, too heavy...

I'm shocked that Dubas signed Mikheyev... probably had the profile for the wrong guy.
- BorjeFan4Ever

That was 70% Babcock, 29% Leafs scouting department, and 1% Dubas.
Dubas was pissed with Babcock going to Russia to meet with Mikheyev to make sure he signed with the Leafs.

not much risk of Dubas acquiring a player like Gudas...

too tall, too heavy...

I'm shocked that Dubas signed Mikheyev... probably had the profile for the wrong guy.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I don't get the hate for Dubas. I wish he'd pee in my cheerios, you should consider yourself lucky..

don't you really mean - just keep playing like you are - for Alexis?

btw....

it would be Leafy to draft Lefrenierre anyway... this is supposed to be a high-end d-man draft...

maybe they should trade down... get a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders
- BorjeFan4Ever

There’s only one rated in the top-10, and he’s 5’11 172lbs.

That depends, Dubas could trade Nylander for a defensive d-man like Gudas, but if Babcock plays Gudas as an offensive defenseman and gives him PP1 time, then the trade would look even worse.
- PatC80

besides - if Selkelander is as good a defensive player as "some" in hear are suggesting.. then trading him Dubas would no doubt be able to aim much much higher.

great defensive player, under-priced contract.. surely readily moved with many many teams interested

That was 70% Babcock, 29% Leafs scouting department, and 1% Dubas.
Dubas was pissed with Babcock going to Russia to meet with Mikheyev to make sure he signed with the Leafs.
- MaximusAurelius

I don't get the hate for Dubas. I wish he'd pee in my cheerios, you should consider yourself lucky..
- PatC80

He hates Dubas the person more than Roger hates Babs the coach.

And again, you are making that determination after 20 games... And you think that's an acceptable timeframe at the NHL level? It took 20 games to decide the entire strategy must be aborted, we must remove a GM and behind another plan which entails making moves in 3 years?

That's not how it works...
- joel878

the team is a (frank)ing disaster. completely disjointed. no hope to win if andersen is not in net. just getting to 94 points and a WC is not looking good.

babcock is probably the one to go. i think you need to get to the root of the problem.

There’s only one rated in the top-10, and he’s 5’11 172lbs.
- Steven_Seagull

sounds perfect... although a little on the tall side.