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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
Poor Muzzin. It looks like he drew thee short straw and will play with Ceci tonight.
- aminnes



I thought he was playing with Holl

Rielly- Ceci
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott- Barrie
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
I personally fault Babs for Barrie's play.
How can a 50-60 point offensive D-man, only be on pace for 19 points? What changed?

- PatC80



Dubas said to him, “suck on purpose so we can blame Babs. It’ll be one step closer to firing that boomer.”
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
Marco Rossi is 5’9
- Steven_Seagull

Love that kid.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:02 PM ET
Mikheyev started out great, but he has really cooled off and is showing some stone hands recently. Hope he is more than just a flash early on.
- senstroll




The moment he crosses the blue line he shoots the puck. Like dude, just because you’re Russian doesn’t mean you’re Ovechkin.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
Dubas said to him, “suck on purpose so we can blame Babs. It’ll be one step closer to firing that boomer.”
- Steven_Seagull


What a plan....

It's Dubas' fault that Babs asked Barrie to re-invent his game.

Lousy Dubas.. Why can't he foresee things like this? I wonder if his calculator is out of battery?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
I can get from your comments you don't have children.
- MaximusAurelius


I have 3, my oldest is 14.

Keep playing, you look like more of a (frank)ing idiot every time you open your mouth.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
I personally fault Babs for Barrie's play.
How can a 50-60 point offensive D-man, only be on pace for 19 points? What changed?

- PatC80


They already had offensive d men. They already had their PP number 1 d man. Would have been better to get a prospect or pick in the trade, or a stay at home guy if possible.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
What a plan....

It's Dubas' fault that Babs asked Barrie to re-invent his game.

Lousy Dubas.. Why can't he foresee things like this? I wonder if his calculator is out of battery?

- PatC80



He uses a solar powered calculator. Babs’ massive ego is in the way.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
Marco Rossi is 5’9
- Steven_Seagull


still to tall.. need to aim lower, then celebrate when he grows 2 inches to reach 5'10" after his 18th birthdate
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
Mikheyev started out great, but he has really cooled off and is showing some stone hands recently. Hope he is more than just a flash early on.
- senstroll

wonder if he's just not used to playing this many games so quickly and it's a conditioning thing. he went from a better version of hyman to replacement level in one month lol
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
Interesting.. Did Babcock get any permission to travel to Russia to speak to Mikheyev or behalf of the Leafs by talking it over with Shanny and Dubas? Or did he just say "frank you Duby, I don't need you, I run things around here"?
- PatC80


Dubas declined to be interviewed by the Star regarding the signing. In a quote from Dubas supplied by the team’s media relations department, the GM praised Paliafito but made no mention of Babcock’s role.

“We are very appreciative of the time and effort that Jim Paliafito has put in to scouting and developing a relationship with Ilya,” Dubas said. “Jim has done an excellent job here again working with Ilya to showcase how the Leafs can help him reach his potential.”

--> quite obvious that Dubas was pissed off with Babcock doing his job better than himself.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:04 PM ET
I thought he was playing with Holl

Rielly- Ceci
Muzzin - Holl
Dermott- Barrie

- PatC80



Poor Reilly.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:04 PM ET
Dubas declined to be interviewed by the Star regarding the signing. In a quote from Dubas supplied by the team’s media relations department, the GM praised Paliafito but made no mention of Babcock’s role.

“We are very appreciative of the time and effort that Jim Paliafito has put in to scouting and developing a relationship with Ilya,” Dubas said. “Jim has done an excellent job here again working with Ilya to showcase how the Leafs can help him reach his potential.”

--> quite obvious that Dubas was pissed off with Babcock doing his job better than himself.

- MaximusAurelius



PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
They already had offensive d men. They already had their PP number 1 d man. Would have been better to get a prospect or pick in the trade, or a stay at home guy if possible.
- aminnes



I agree, but he didn't... Barrie is an upgrade on Gardiner and should be used as an offensive d-man, not asked to change his game and learn how to be a stay-at-home defenseman..

That's like asking Gauthier to center the 1st PP unit.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
Dubas declined to be interviewed by the Star regarding the signing. In a quote from Dubas supplied by the team’s media relations department, the GM praised Paliafito but made no mention of Babcock’s role.

“We are very appreciative of the time and effort that Jim Paliafito has put in to scouting and developing a relationship with Ilya,” Dubas said. “Jim has done an excellent job here again working with Ilya to showcase how the Leafs can help him reach his potential.”

--> quite obvious that Dubas was pissed off with Babcock doing his job better than himself.

- MaximusAurelius


Quite

obvious

yes

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
wonder if he's just not used to playing this many games so quickly and it's a conditioning thing. he went from a better version of hyman to replacement level in one month lol
- daeth


thats how I see it so far.

he is being hailed as a success and a win by Babs. but lets see ab bit more and maybe 1 season.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
He uses a solar powered calculator. Babs’ massive ego is in the way.
- Steven_Seagull



Energy efficient bastard
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
Interesting.. Did Babcock get any permission to travel to Russia to speak to Mikheyev or behalf of the Leafs by talking it over with Shanny and Dubas? Or did he just say "frank you Duby, I don't need you, I run things around here"?
- PatC80


If Dubas would not allow him to talk to a player that upwards of 20 teams were interested in that would be retarded.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
Dubas declined to be interviewed by the Star regarding the signing. In a quote from Dubas supplied by the team’s media relations department, the GM praised Paliafito but made no mention of Babcock’s role.

“We are very appreciative of the time and effort that Jim Paliafito has put in to scouting and developing a relationship with Ilya,” Dubas said. “Jim has done an excellent job here again working with Ilya to showcase how the Leafs can help him reach his potential.”

--> quite obvious that Dubas was pissed off with Babcock doing his job better than himself.

- MaximusAurelius



k
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
Dubas said to him, “suck on purpose so we can blame Babs. It’ll be one step closer to firing that boomer.”
- Steven_Seagull


😂😂😂
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
I personally fault Babs for Barrie's play.
How can a 50-60 point offensive D-man, only be on pace for 19 points? What changed?

- PatC80



did you blame Babego when 70pt Nylander turned into 6 goal Nylander last season? was it Babcock's fault that Nylander was out of shape and missed camp?

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 19 @ 4:07 PM ET
And we wonder why we’re losing.

That lineup doesn’t smell of contender to me.

Marner can’t get back soon enough.

- Garnie



I think Shore is the odd man out tonight with Engvall in his spot.

Edit: my bad it could be Timashov who sit. IJDK
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
did you blame Babego when 70pt Nylander turned into 6 goal Nylander last season? was it Babcock's fault that Nylander was out of shape and missed camp?
- BorjeFan4Ever



How is that comparable?

Nylander's situation was way different than Barrie's.

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Nov 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
old geezer
- daeth

if he's an old geezer, wonder what I am other than generation X.


aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
I agree, but he didn't... Barrie is an upgrade on Gardiner and should be used as an offensive d-man, not asked to change his game and learn how to be a stay-at-home defenseman..

That's like asking Gauthier to center the 1st PP unit.

- PatC80


Personally I would have used Barrie on the first unit at least sometimes. However, looking a the first PP unit who comes off? Someone is getting pissed off. Nylander? Marner? Barrie is a needless asset on the Leafs. Supply and demand.
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