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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Nov 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
Yes.

Because no way in hell would Florida make that trade. Not a year ago, not now, not ever.

So yeah, it was pretty derp.

- Scabeh

A lot of if it is battle and compete for pucks. I'm not saying anything about the players' give a poop meter on the PP, but speaking from my own team's perspective, Jake DeBrusk is similar to how you describe Armia. Very good at digging pucks out of the corner, cycling back to the points to create space, and then move his ass to to the front of the net to wreak some havoc. There is still a spot for role players on the PP, albeit, probably just 1 in an ideal scenario.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
a precipitous drop in measured performance... not similar at all.


the reasons are different... one happened because one guy signed a new contract... the other got traded...

but both put into situations that they couldn't perform in....

circumstances, sure.

blame the coach if you like, but some is certainly on the player... and some is on the GM - in each case

- BorjeFan4Ever


Nylander's performance last year was on Nylander, no one else.

Barrie being asked to re-invent himself, is on the coach..
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
While Matthews in potential is a the best player - it would make Leafs directly a much better team.
- MaximusAurelius

i've never been an ekblad fan. that said with the ~6 mil or whatever they save they could get another good dman via free agency if any are available and yeah, they'd probably be better as a result. getting a great contract like barkov's would be huge.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
actually - that would be a hell of a good idea... the Goat on the PP... takes the faceoff and goes to the front of the net....

there's no one else going there now... would send a good message to the guys currently on the powerplay wouldn't it.

- BorjeFan4Ever

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 19 @ 4:23 PM ET
if babcrotch wants to split PP time relatively evenly he should consider moving matthews to pp2 with nylander

im a genius
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:23 PM ET
the goat it is then;

Matthews-goat-Tavares

Nylander-Rielly on the point

- PatC80


seriously ... replace Nylander with Barrie... Barrie's got a good one-timer and create some movement along the blueline... half the problem with the PowerPlay is they are stationary, Marner used to get everyone moving when he was on the right side.

again, worth a shot
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
A lot of if it is battle and compete for pucks. I'm not saying anything about the players' give a poop meter on the PP, but speaking from my own team's perspective, Jake DeBrusk is similar to how you describe Armia. Very good at digging pucks out of the corner, cycling back to the points to create space, and then move his ass to to the front of the net to wreak some havoc. There is still a spot for role players on the PP, albeit, probably just 1 in an ideal scenario.
- RickJames77


Danton Heinen + Debrusk
For
Selklander + Johnsson

Would you like that trade for the Bruins?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
the goat it is then;

Matthews-goat-Tavares

Nylander-Rielly on the point

- PatC80


Sure, why not. Park his ass in front of the goal and hope for the best!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
seriously ... replace Nylander with Barrie... Barrie's got a good one-timer and create some movement along the blueline... half the problem with the PowerPlay is they are stationary, Marner used to get everyone moving when he was on the right side.

again, worth a shot

- BorjeFan4Ever



I agree with you, but I don't think Babs has it in him to make two changes to one pp unit...

That's asking a lot
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
if babcrotch wants to split PP time relatively evenly he should consider moving matthews to pp2 with nylander

im a genius

- daeth


wait ... are we going with Bablord, Babcrotch or Babego going forward?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
Danton Heinen + Debrusk
For
Selklander + Johnsson

Would you like that trade for the Bruins?

- MaximusAurelius

Dude...
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
wait ... are we going with Bablord, Babcrotch or Babego going forward?
- BorjeFan4Ever

yes
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
A lot of if it is battle and compete for pucks. I'm not saying anything about the players' give a poop meter on the PP, but speaking from my own team's perspective, Jake DeBrusk is similar to how you describe Armia. Very good at digging pucks out of the corner, cycling back to the points to create space, and then move his ass to to the front of the net to wreak some havoc. There is still a spot for role players on the PP, albeit, probably just 1 in an ideal scenario.
- RickJames77


Everything you just said boils down to the coach. Even as far as the players not giving a poop, it's literally the coaches job to make them give a poop.

People can blame dubas all day, but unless you genuinely believe, without looking at the rest of the bullpoop, that this roster has played to its ability through the first 20 games, then yes that's on dubas.

Literally anything else is on Babcock.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
wait ... are we going with Bablord, Babcrotch or Babego going forward?
- BorjeFan4Ever



Limpcock
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
i've never been an ekblad fan. that said with the ~6 mil or whatever they save they could get another good dman via free agency if any are available and yeah, they'd probably be better as a result. getting a great contract like barkov's would be huge.
- daeth

Viktor Hedman didnt become the dominating factor for Tampa until 23-24-25y old.
Ekblad is still 23.
I think he will become quite a lot better.
Would be a perfect partner for Rielly.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
Everything you just said boils down to the coach. Even as far as the players not giving a poop, it's literally the coaches job to make them give a poop.

People can blame dubas all day, but unless you genuinely believe, without looking at the rest of the bullpoop, that this roster has played to its ability through the first 20 games, then yes that's on dubas.

Literally anything else is on Babcock.

- joel878


If a guy is a professional athlete and still needs the coach to tap his ass with his stick to skate hard thats a joke. If this is the case this team is done.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
Danton Heinen + Debrusk
For
Selklander + Johnsson

Would you like that trade for the Bruins?

- MaximusAurelius


ew.....


Carlo & Debrusk

Selklander & Lliljegren
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
Dude...
- AdamFrench



What, do the Leafs need to add?
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Limpcock
- Steven_Seagull



harsh.... but could be fair.

definitely more of a Millenial spin
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
seriously ... replace Nylander with Barrie... Barrie's got a good one-timer and create some movement along the blueline... half the problem with the PowerPlay is they are stationary, Marner used to get everyone moving when he was on the right side.

again, worth a shot

- BorjeFan4Ever


Babcocks entire premise from day 1 of having tavares was dispersing 3 lines as even keeled as possible, thus making it impossible to defend against.

Yet, when it comes to the Powerplay he has always been happy to go against his own logic throw the best 5 players over boards immediately, followed by whoever he deems next best.

He has early onset dementia I'm sure of it.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Nov 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Everything you just said boils down to the coach. Even as far as the players not giving a poop, it's literally the coaches job to make them give a poop.

People can blame dubas all day, but unless you genuinely believe, without looking at the rest of the bullpoop, that this roster has played to its ability through the first 20 games, then yes that's on dubas.

Literally anything else is on Babcock.

- joel878

I agree with you, but I tend to stay shy of telling another team’s fan base that they should fire their coach. Not to mention, I watch them, but not nearly as close as all of you.

Except santo, that wannabe tanner guy doesn’t even watch the games!


RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Nov 19 @ 4:31 PM ET
i've never been an ekblad fan. that said with the ~6 mil or whatever they save they could get another good dman via free agency if any are available and yeah, they'd probably be better as a result. getting a great contract like barkov's would be huge.
- daeth

Ekblad is having a fantastic year this year. He’s playing exceptional and you should try and check him out one night if you can

He’s played really well since like the 2/3 point of last season IMO
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 19 @ 4:31 PM ET
If a guy is a professional athlete and still needs the coach to tap his ass with his stick to skate hard thats a joke. If this is the case this team is done.
- aminnes


You give a 21 year old kid a 50 million dollar contract and you're blown away he would need to be told to go earn it?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Nov 19 @ 4:31 PM ET
Dude...
- AdamFrench

Personally I'd rather have Debrusk than Nylander on my team.
Same for Heinen over Johnsson.
Looking at increasing chances on a SC win - not points per player.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Nov 19 @ 4:31 PM ET
Yes.

Because no way in hell would Florida make that trade. Not a year ago, not now, not ever.

So yeah, it was pretty derp.

- Scabeh

False

Huberdeau was on the block early last year and had a poor start (great 2nd half)

Go derp yourself
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