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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Nov 27 @ 4:33 PM ET
James Tanner: Phil Kessel Playing So Much Better than His Scoring Totals Indicate
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Nov 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
JTN Fake News Network!
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Nov 27 @ 4:50 PM ET
Bwahahaha. So take 100 unbiased neutral hockey executives in a room. Ask them a simple question. You are building a team in 2019. You can have Kessel, Domi, or Galchenyuk.

Majority of people instantly choose Domi. But according to Tanner, all of those people are UNREASONABLE. The correct answer is Kessel. Because of luck or something.

- uofcguy



Really? Like, trolling aside, you think Domi is a better player than Kessel? And you're so confident that you think other people would also agree?

I think that is frigging nuts. Domi isn't even close to Kessel.
Ales_Nevsky
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3333 pommes, NT
Joined: 10.08.2017

Nov 27 @ 5:39 PM ET
Yes Domi is a better hockey player than Kessel at this point. Also significantly cheaper and under cost-control. Ask again in 1 year. And then 2 years. It's only going to get worse. Because your premise is you are building a team today, in 2019, who do you want? A 32-year old winger that is struggling to keep up with the pace of the game, a defensive liability, and has 1 even-strength goal in 25 games. Or a 24-year old that can play center or on the wing, is a better 2-way player, and despite your claims that he is struggling he's still vastly outproducing Phil Kessel.

The fact that you think anyone who agrees with me is friggin nuts and unreasonable is pretty indicative of your knowledge. Yesterday you admitted that your predictions were usually dead wrong and you don't take yourself that seriously. Well if your predictions are so awful, then maybe your current observations aren't that great either. Have you ever considered that? Because a highly knowledgable hockey observer should be able to predict things a little better than you do. Like maybe Schmaltz is NOT a 90+ point player. Like maybe Keller is NOT an 85+ point player. Like maybe Franson does NOT belong in the NHL. Like maybe NYI ARE actually a good team. Maybe there are readers like me who know more about the sport than you?

- uofcguy


nice try at arguing with tanner using sounded knowledge, reflection and articulation of your ideas but you should know that an opinion is only relevant if it is brought in one sentence paragraphs and if a certain amounts of the words used in them are randomly replaced by percentages consulted on naturalstattrick.com.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Nov 27 @ 5:45 PM ET
Jimmy you said building a team. why would you want phi if building a team? had you said who do you want right now for this year might make more sense.

me? i rather have franson or rundblad. OR maybe Arcobello
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
Lol
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 27 @ 6:36 PM ET
Yes Domi is a better hockey player than Kessel at this point. Also significantly cheaper and under cost-control. Ask again in 1 year. And then 2 years. It's only going to get worse. Because your premise is you are building a team today, in 2019, who do you want? A 32-year old winger that is struggling to keep up with the pace of the game, a defensive liability, and has 1 even-strength goal in 25 games. Or a 24-year old that can play center or on the wing, is a better 2-way player, and despite your claims that he is struggling he's still vastly outproducing Phil Kessel.

The fact that you think anyone who agrees with me is friggin nuts and unreasonable is pretty indicative of your knowledge. Yesterday you admitted that your predictions were usually dead wrong and you don't take yourself that seriously. Well if your predictions are so awful, then maybe your current observations aren't that great either. Have you ever considered that? Because a highly knowledgable hockey observer should be able to predict things a little better than you do. Like maybe Schmaltz is NOT a 90+ point player. Like maybe Keller is NOT an 85+ point player. Like maybe Franson does NOT belong in the NHL. Like maybe NYI ARE actually a good team. Maybe there are readers like me who know more about the sport than you?

- uofcguy


He’s talking about winning in 2019, yes Kessel is still better.

The end
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 27 @ 6:36 PM ET
Maybe Kessel has lost some zip finally.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 7:05 PM ET
When you're paid to score and not scoring. Playing so much better than the scoring numbers is the definition of playing poorly. Raise your standards Tanner.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Nov 27 @ 8:43 PM ET
Jimmy you said building a team. why would you want phi if building a team? had you said who do you want right now for this year might make more sense.

me? i rather have franson or rundblad. OR maybe Arcobello

- daryl stanley


I am talking about just right now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 27 @ 8:47 PM ET
I am talking about just right now.
- James_Tanner


Just this very minute, not for any of the future?
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Nov 27 @ 9:52 PM ET


If you watched games you'd see that Phil has clearly lost a step. I watched two games live this past week, what I saw is a player who looked totally beat when heading to the bench after floating around for 3/4 of a shift. He's lost his ability to get a couple breakouts a game, and his numbers reflect it.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Nov 27 @ 10:02 PM ET
nice try at arguing with tanner using sounded knowledge, reflection and articulation of your ideas but you should know that an opinion is only relevant if it is brought in one sentence paragraphs and if a certain amounts of the words used in them are randomly replaced by percentages consulted on naturalstattrick.com.
- Ales_Nevsky


But, but, but...

tankorr
Location: quebec
Joined: 08.18.2019

Nov 28 @ 6:33 AM ET
you are damm right, thats why they decided to stop the stepan,keller,kessel yesterday
since half of the time they do not have the puck, and for watching a lot of games, they are really unlucky

but yesterday we finnaly see something interesting, new first line is schmaltz,keller,kessel, and 2nd is dvorak centering with stepan and gorlan winger

dvorak FW is like 2x stepan and he is now playing as a winger and already shown result

im hoping for the best for the further games because i think we can say we have a first decent 1st line and not so bad 2nd like (looks at gorlan!) and the 3nd and 4th are doing a great job against all 3th and 4th line of others team

cant wait to see the results for the next month !

enjoy
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 28 @ 9:57 AM ET
We must keep a keen eye on rising Ontario home prices
The Globe and Mail
2019-11-27
Byline: MICHAEL BABAD

We should keep a keen eye on rising Ontario home prices as markets rebound from the measures taken to cool them down.

In a broader look at Canada’s housing markets, Re/Max cited the “higher-than-normal gains” in parts of the province, including London, where prices are up 10.7 per cent from a year ago, Windsor at 11 per cent, Ottawa at 11.7 per cent and Niagara at 12.9 per cent.

Looking ahead, again broadly, the real estate firm projected average Canadian prices will rise 3.7 per cent next year.

But Ontario, which, along with British Columbia, was home to the bubble that sparked tax and other measures in those provinces, and new mortgage-qualification stress tests at the national level, certainly bears watching, based on those Re/Max numbers.

“Southern Ontario is witnessing some incredibly strong price appreciation, with many regions still seeing double-digit gains,” Christopher Alexander, executive vice-president and regional director for Re/Max of Ontario-Atlantic Region, said in a statement.

“Thanks to the region’s resilient economy, staggering population growth and relentless development, the 2020 market looks very optimistic.”

And unaffordable, too, when you’re talking about Toronto, an issue that continues to plague policy makers.

While Toronto prices rose 4 per cent this year, Re/Max projected in its report this week that gains will speed up to 6 per cent in 2020.

Certainly at this point, the Re/Max numbers aren’t suggesting anything bubble-like, just worth watching.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Nov 28 @ 10:33 AM ET
you are damm right, thats why they decided to stop the stepan,keller,kessel yesterday
since half of the time they do not have the puck, and for watching a lot of games, they are really unlucky

but yesterday we finnaly see something interesting, new first line is schmaltz,keller,kessel, and 2nd is dvorak centering with stepan and gorlan winger

dvorak FW is like 2x stepan and he is now playing as a winger and already shown result

im hoping for the best for the further games because i think we can say we have a first decent 1st line and not so bad 2nd like (looks at gorlan!) and the 3nd and 4th are doing a great job against all 3th and 4th line of others team

cant wait to see the results for the next month !

enjoy

- tankorr



Kessel-Keller-Schmaltz is such a bad line. They just don't have the ability to possess the puck, and last night it showed.

Kessel missed a look in OT i've never seen him miss. Wide open net. Shame/
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
Kessel-Keller-Schmaltz is such a bad line. They just don't have the ability to possess the puck, and last night it showed.

Kessel missed a look in OT i've never seen him miss. Wide open net. Shame/

- James_Tanner



Must be unlucky, I guess.

How can that line not be dominant? Kessel is a franchise player, Keller an 85 point man and Schmaltz good for 90+.

HOW CAN THIS BE??????????
tankorr
Location: quebec
Joined: 08.18.2019

Nov 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
Kessel-Keller-Schmaltz is such a bad line. They just don't have the ability to possess the puck, and last night it showed.

Kessel missed a look in OT i've never seen him miss. Wide open net. Shame/

- James_Tanner



yeah, i saw too it should have gone thru, (thats the unlucky factor)

and each time they were 3 together, it looked bad i agree, give them 1-2 games to get their stuff together and we will see, didnt look good yesterday 100% agreed, nick havent played center since a while, lets give them a shot for 2 more games and then ill confirm with you that it was a nono =)
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
James Tanner: Phil Kessel Playing So Much Better than His Scoring Totals Indicate
- James_Tanner



When all else fails... it must be bad luck.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 11:23 AM ET
When all else fails... it must be bad luck.
- Mashadar


It all depends. If a players CF% is at 50% or above then it's bad luck. If his CF% is below 50% well then he obviously isn't a good player.
Trevrrrgavo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.28.2013

Nov 28 @ 11:49 AM ET
Looks like more bad luck this time tanner. Another crap blog. It’s all based on luck though. So just keep pumping them out. I’m sure one of them is bound to be good eventually.

This latest one reads like a broken record. How many times can you say the same luck garbage over and over again.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Nov 28 @ 12:17 PM ET
When all else fails... it must be bad luck.
- Mashadar



Laugh if you want, but what do you call it when a guy who shoots 10% for 1000 games goes on a 25 game stretch where he shoots 2%?

Of the forwards who have played the same amount of minutes as Kessel, he has the lowest shooting percentage. Do we think that given his history that makes any sense?

What is more likely, that Kessel is just cold due to bad luck, or he suddenly because a worse shooter than Frederick Gauthier?



Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 28 @ 12:19 PM ET
Laugh if you want, but what do you call it when a guy who shoots 10% for 1000 games goes on a 25 game stretch where he shoots 2%?

Of the forwards who have played the same amount of minutes as Kessel, he has the lowest shooting percentage. Do we think that given his history that makes any sense?

What is more likely, that Kessel is just cold due to bad luck, or he suddenly because a worse shooter than Frederick Gauthier?

- James_Tanner


Or, maybe he's fat, lazy and getting old enough that his natural skill just isn't enough anymore.
That can't be though, because there's no way to represent it on a chart.
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
Or, maybe he's fat, lazy and getting old enough that his natural skill just isn't enough anymore.
That can't be though, because there's no way to represent it on a chart.

- Tonybere
It's bad luck. A terrible streak of birthdays.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
The Thrill is always great. He's been a fantastic winger for his career.
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