Not enough cap space to call up another player, great cap management. But then again it’s hard to plan for three guys on IR.
- walleyeb1

is Keith on IR or LTIR? difference to the CAP hit right?

Not enough cap space to call up another player, great cap management. But then again it’s hard to plan for three guys on IR.
- walleyeb1

Actually they're not on IR is the problem isn't it?

Not enough cap space to call up another player, great cap management. But then again it’s hard to plan for three guys on IR.
- walleyeb1

Problem is they are not on IR. Not Counting Lehner, you have $10+ Mil in Keith, Shaw, Strome not well enough to skate, but not injured enough to be on IR

Per Tracy Meyers...
Hawks go with 11F and 6D tonight. Not enough cap space to call up a forward.
Shaw out for tonight, Strome feeling better, but out tonight.
- boilermaker100

Oh this should be good. Double-shifting Kane all night long. Hopefully a STL Blue doesn't light him up at some point this evening.

Per Tracy Meyers...
Hawks go with 11F and 6D tonight. Not enough cap space to call up a forward.
Shaw out for tonight, Strome feeling better, but out tonight.
- boilermaker100

The over/under for P. Kane TOI tonight is 28:30.

It doesn't matter what authority is granted to the GM when the entire core has NMC's. Not that they cannot be moved, but the fact is that it is not simply up to the team or the GM. The players themselves have an immense amount of control available to them. Not to mention, if you are going to move them, it is horrible asset management to simply dump them for "picks and stuff". You better get a haul back for them. As poor as some of them are playing, they are still some of the best (if not the best) players on this team.
- Chunk

Hey Chunk happy Monday . I don't disagree with your point that this team is saturated with NMC more so than any other team and it takes 2 too tango i.e player agreeing to a trade.

Imo Rocky , Stan and MC D are all heavily invested in this core and not excepting at least that's the perception that is being put out their that somehow they can still somehow make the playoffs and because of the cores past accomplishments they can lead Chicago to another cup.

Maybe you don't get a tremendous amount back , but even prospects , picks and cap relief for future use is better than wasting more time not achieving the end result a young fast , talented fully stocked team.

Look back at Colorado I believe it was either 2009 or 2010 or 11 season when Colorado had a ton of young talent but moved all those pieces , hit rock bottom but eventually many years later you see the end result . They look fantastic and dangerous.
MY point is the courage it took to trade off some good players .

Look at Anaheim they are a better team or at least playing better than chicago

Not enough cap space to call up another player, great cap management. But then again it’s hard to plan for three guys on IR.
- walleyeb1

Think Blues have 4 right now. Vladdy, Steen, Blais and Sunny.

Coming of two of best/ most complete games of the year Blues due for a stinker. Or alteast back to not really playing hard for 40 mins get 2 goals down and then wake up in 3rd to force OT.

This is going to be interesting tonight.

Kane will surely play 35 minutes.
- Tyler Cameron

I was on an airplane for the first COL game and had family over for the second, so I didn't watch a minute of the last two debacles or read through the boards or any tweets (it was actually kind of nice). With what I am reading today (line combos, players that are up from RFD, etc. it really seems like they are throwing crap at the wall and seeing what happens.

Not that my opinion means anything, and again I didn't see the games, but how does a team get absolutely pasted two games in a row by the same team. You get pasted once, you look at the things you did wrong (and that they did right) and address those immediately. It may have simply been back to back bad goaltending performances, but there is something fundamentally wrong with that happening.

Per Tracy Meyers...
Hawks go with 11F and 6D tonight. Not enough cap space to call up a forward.
Shaw out for tonight, Strome feeling better, but out tonight.
- boilermaker100

FFS, sigh

Hes 21yrs old getting his first extended look

On pace for 30-ish points playing up/down the lineup.

While you claim he "floats" and goes in spurts - that's the sign of a young player learning to play the game at the NHL level. Consistency is the hardest thing to learn

But in his "spurts" he shows high end talent. Both skating and shooting. He has even had some sound back checks at times. If he never showed those "spurts" - then there would be issues about him being a bust.
- PatShart

I hope you are right.

The NHL graveyard is filled with the remnants of players with spurts of high-end talent but lacking compete level and the realization that winning is more important than their point total at the end of the game. I'm not convinced that this particular Nylander will ever "get it." We'll see. Part of me wonders if it was completely up to JC if he would have made the roster out of camp.

Hey Chunk happy Monday . I don't disagree with your point that this team is saturated with NMC more so than any other team and it takes 2 too tango i.e player agreeing to a trade.

Imo Rocky , Stan and MC D are all heavily invested in this core and not excepting at least that's the perception that is being put out their that somehow they can still somehow make the playoffs and because of the cores past accomplishments they can lead Chicago to another cup.

Maybe you don't get a tremendous amount back , but even prospects , picks and cap relief for future use is better than wasting more time not achieving the end result a young fast , talented fully stocked team.

Look back at Colorado I believe it was either 2009 or 2010 or 11 season when Colorado had a ton of young talent but moved all those pieces , hit rock bottom but eventually many years later you see the end result . They look fantastic and dangerous.
MY point is the courage it took to trade off some good players .

Look at Anaheim they are a better team or at least playing better than chicago
- Taylorst1

We just got through a quite brilliant analysis that showed the Hawks DO NOT have an abundance of NMC compared to the other teams in the league.

Do facts have no relevance to you?

Is it to early?

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl


When we find out that Lehner doesn't want to resign with the Hawks, where do we move him?

The oilers could use some elite goaltending.

Someone mentioned the Avs? Send Lehner + Maata (cup winner / depth defensemen) for Bo Bry?
- RedRevenge

If you mean that they could trade Byram,, the much salivated over wanna be draft pick by many on this board, then you are probably hoping again for the unlikely. They can acquire help without having to surrender the #4 dman overall 2919 Entry Draft.

I would see them in a Stanley Cupatch with Boston - not Washington or Tampa.

Oh this should be good. Double-shifting Kane all night long. Hopefully a STL Blue doesn't light him up at some point this evening.
- Rota's Rooter

The LTIR how many players or percent is a team allowed to have on LTIR? Also if Chicago doesn't have cap space wouldn't that be Stans responsibility to assure that he is managing it properly?

I was on an airplane for the first COL game and had family over for the second, so I didn't watch a minute of the last two debacles or read through the boards or any tweets (it was actually kind of nice). With what I am reading today (line combos, players that are up from RFD, etc. it really seems like they are throwing crap at the wall and seeing what happens.

Not that my opinion means anything, and again I didn't see the games, but how does a team get absolutely pasted two games in a row by the same team. You get pasted once, you look at the things you did wrong (and that they did right) and address those immediately. It may have simply been back to back bad goaltending performances, but there is something fundamentally wrong with that happening.
- Chunk

You have to be able to catch them to stop them. Goalies were hung out to dry both games.

Brent Sopel on Marc Crawford - starts around 1hr:02m

https://www.barstoolsport...brent-sopel-teddy-purcell

Bowman on vacation, what is he doing? More like not doing, his job

Think Blues have 4 right now. Vladdy, Steen, Blais and Sunny.

Coming of two of best/ most complete games of the year Blues due for a stinker. Or alteast back to not really playing hard for 40 mins get 2 goals down and then wake up in 3rd to force OT.
- Gerk

Vlad being on LTIR allows the Blues to exceed the cap by $7,500,000.

Also, do you deal Kane? Realistically he is the only player you could deal of the NMC's in my opinion without throwing in a promising young player. He also obviously brings back the most, but does Kane waive his clause? Guessing no, unless he gets to go back home to Buffalo.
- ChicagoHope

IMO you don't deal Kane. He retires a Blackhawk. He remains one of the elite players in the league, and while his cap hit is now 8th in the league, his salary is 26th and declining.

Logically speaking, while he has the most value of any possible trade options, what exactly do you expect back? No team in the league has the cap space to absorb the full cap hit without taking something off their roster. What team that want to trade for Kane can take 2 or more of their best players off the roster and remain competitive, and why would Kane waive to go back to a situation like he is already in? If you are going to trade him for picks, you are looking forward to years of growing pains. Hypothetically speaking, you trade him for a few first round picks. How long until they are productive?

I agree walleyeb1. The question is do you fire Stan now before the trade deadline or at the end of the season if that's the ultimate end game?

Rocky needs to allow any new GM full authority to clean house including the core players.

Does anyone know what current unemployed GM candidates are out their and available?
- Taylorst1

That's the ticket - fire them all, THEN ask who is available and better!

Vlad being on LTIR allows the Blues to exceed the cap by $7,500,000.
- walleyeb1

That's 8 players you can call up just for him. Put Toews on IR we can call up the whole Rockford team and watch them do what they did against Boston.

OK...who are these blackhawks...

the team that played well vs the stars in BTB games giving up 1 goal in 6 periods or vs aves in BTB games giving up 12 goals in 6 periods...

Answer: neither

this is a team that can play well and beat good teams about 15-20% of the time and play poorly and lose bad about 20-25% of the time and generally bump along in close games because of lack of talent and poor defense that their goalies try to make up for...

82-86 point team...don't get to high nor to low with this bunch..

The LTIR how many players or percent is a team allowed to have on LTIR? Also if Chicago doesn't have cap space wouldn't that be Stans responsibility to assure that he is managing it properly?
- Taylorst1

The problem is darn near impossible to plan for three players being either ill or on IR.

Vlad being on LTIR allows the Blues to exceed the cap by $7,500,000.
- walleyeb1

Yes if we play the hossa game and leave him there till playoffs start.

What makes you think Toews has a back injury?
- bhawks2241

It really is inconsequential if there is a back injury or other bodily icondition exictd. That is due to the fact that Toews choose to be much weaker and play a different style. He falls down too often as well. Don't expect much from him except in short spurts.

Yes if we play the hossa game and leave him there till playoffs start.
- Gerk

That was Kane but anyways.