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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Monday @ 9:14 AM ET
Eklund: Rumors: Johnny Hockey to Philly or NJ? Hall deal by end of month?
sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

Monday @ 9:24 AM ET
This is all very interesting.
drew18
New Jersey Devils
Location: Places in the
Joined: 02.27.2015

Monday @ 9:29 AM ET
This is (H)all very interesting.
- sokosteve



Fixed it for you
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Trump is your President for five more years, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Monday @ 9:41 AM ET
Ghost and a first wouldn't work cap wise.

Flyers would need to send another roster player to fit JG under the cap.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Monday @ 9:43 AM ET
-A first and a top level prospect - yes.
-Gostisbehere - No. Don't need him - Flames strength is their young Defence: Valimaki, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington. Need a better roster player than Gostisbehere, and not a defenceman.
-Need to throw in more than those 3 pieces. Gaudreau is on a very team friendly contract of 6.75 mil per year for the next 2 years - that type of contract has its own cost.

Anyway, this is all hypothetical - he won't be traded - at least not during this season.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Monday @ 9:50 AM ET
I may wind up with egg on my face but I find the whole trade Gaudreau rumors crazy. Why does Calgary want to trade him? Due to 25 supar games? Ignore his previous play? The fact that Gaudreau grew up in S. Jersey does not give him ties to the Flyers in any way.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Monday @ 9:57 AM ET
Gostisbehere and one of their top prospects along with a #1 pick would get it done I am told.


Really?? I dont think so
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Monday @ 10:22 AM ET
I may wind up with egg on my face but I find the whole trade Gaudreau rumors crazy. Why does Calgary want to trade him? Due to 25 supar games? Ignore his previous play? The fact that Gaudreau grew up in S. Jersey does not give him ties to the Flyers in any way.
- MJL

yes it does if you knew that his father is very friendly with many in the organization.
drew18
New Jersey Devils
Location: Places in the
Joined: 02.27.2015

Monday @ 10:26 AM ET
yes it does if you knew that his father is very friendly with many in the organization.
- daryl stanley


That and it is common knowledge he grew up a Flyers fan.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Monday @ 10:39 AM ET
Konecny, a top prospect and an unprotected first would get it done.
The Flames would eat the difference between JG and Konecny's salary for this year to make the cap work.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Location: I like everyone
Joined: 08.24.2011

Monday @ 10:41 AM ET
I may wind up with egg on my face but I find the whole trade Gaudreau rumors crazy. Why does Calgary want to trade him? Due to 25 supar games? Ignore his previous play? The fact that Gaudreau grew up in S. Jersey does not give him ties to the Flyers in any way.
- MJL

They don’t. Some fans do because he’s not a physical guy and he’s going through a rough patch.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Monday @ 10:46 AM ET
-A first and a top level prospect - yes.
-Gostisbehere - No. Don't need him - Flames strength is their young Defence: Valimaki, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington. Need a better roster player than Gostisbehere, and not a defenceman.
-Need to throw in more than those 3 pieces. Gaudreau is on a very team friendly contract of 6.75 mil per year for the next 2 years - that type of contract has its own cost.

Anyway, this is all hypothetical - he won't be traded - at least not during this season.

- hags11


Given his very friendly deal, Ghost isn't a bad option with Hamonic and Brodie expiring this year and Vali having already had 2 fairly significant leg injuries since being drafted, we don't really know what he is just yet.

If you're moving Gaudreau, that is actually one of the least farfetched offers out there..
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Monday @ 10:49 AM ET
fix your site
dickflair
Joined: 02.21.2018

Monday @ 10:58 AM ET
fix your site
- drew_doubty

he's doing the best he can.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Monday @ 11:02 AM ET
Ghost and a first wouldn't work cap wise.

Flyers would need to send another roster player to fit JG under the cap.

- MBFlyerfan

It wouldn’t work period!! Maybe add Konecy (sp)

Besides we don’t need or have room for Ghost.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Monday @ 11:08 AM ET
Konecny, a top prospect and an unprotected first would get it done.
The Flames would eat the difference between JG and Konecny's salary for this year to make the cap work.

- DEDDIE


Can't see Philly moving Konecny, he's having a great season and that contract he just signed will look even better if he continues this pace or further exceeds it.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Monday @ 11:08 AM ET
Konecny, a top prospect and an unprotected first would get it done.
The Flames would eat the difference between JG and Konecny's salary for this year to make the cap work.

- DEDDIE


Pah Pah Pah Passsssssssss
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Monday @ 11:14 AM ET
-A first and a top level prospect - yes.
-Gostisbehere - No. Don't need him - Flames strength is their young Defence: Valimaki, Andersson, Hanifin, Kylington. Need a better roster player than Gostisbehere, and not a defenceman.
-Need to throw in more than those 3 pieces. Gaudreau is on a very team friendly contract of 6.75 mil per year for the next 2 years - that type of contract has its own cost.

Anyway, this is all hypothetical - he won't be traded - at least not during this season.

- hags11

I agree, maybe they look at it in the off season.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Monday @ 11:25 AM ET
Ummmmmm how about no. That would be a no. As much as I like Lohnny G that's far to much.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Monday @ 11:41 AM ET
There's no chance Gaudreau's getting traded. It's the same nonsense narrative that always comes up that a player just wants to play where he grew up. Besides Tavares, when has that actually happened?

The Flames would never get a fair return and it would take far more than 6.75 million to replace what he brings. They're not going to trade him and will resign him for way too much in two years.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Lamoriello Shat Signings, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Monday @ 11:56 AM ET
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The rebuild begins....again., PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Monday @ 12:00 PM ET
Forget the players and cap for a second...where would Gaudreau even play on the Flyers?

Giroux-Frost-Konecny
Lindblom-Couturier-Voracek
Laughton-Hayes-Farabee
JvR-Raffl-Pitlick

1) Not replacing Giroux and personally find it stupid to move G back to center
2) Not replacing Lindblom, unless he is part of the trade. Losing a lot of defensive responsibility and overall game for more offensive pop. Lindblom is going to be a RFA, but leads the team in goals.
3) Seems silly to have Gaudreau on the 3rd with Hayes, which would be interesting, but very unlikely.

As for players:
Ghost makes sense. Change of scenery and Calgary most likely losing 2-3 defensemen to UFA (unless they can talk them into resigning for cheaper.

2020 1st round pick
Again makes sense, Flyers are stocked with youth and many more to come. Big chip for a trade in a deep draft.

Prospect?
Frost...Nope.
Farabee...doubtful.
Brink...possible.
O'Brien...possible.
Rubtsov...possible.
Vorobyev...would be a good pickup to give him a legit shot.

Roster player?
Patrick...injured and extremely doubtful.
Konecny...not as a throw in, Calgary would have to balance out the trade. Extremely doubtful.
Lindblom...possible.
Laughton...possible and would balance out salary cap.

No...Giroux, Couturier, Voracek (too much), Hayes (NMC), JvR (too much), Provorov, Sanheim, Myers, Niskanen.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Monday @ 12:08 PM ET
There's no chance Gaudreau's getting traded. It's the same nonsense narrative that always comes up that a player just wants to play where he grew up. Besides Tavares, when has that actually happened?

The Flames would never get a fair return and it would take far more than 6.75 million to replace what he brings. They're not going to trade him and will resign him for way too much in two years.

- Hunkulese


Disagree.
While I believe its very unlikely he is moved in season.
I do believe if the Flames miss the playoffs this year there is a good chance he is moved this coming off season.
So my comments aren't misconstrued, I am saying there would be a good chance he is traded for fair market value not GIVEN away.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Monday @ 12:26 PM ET
Disagree.
While I believe its very unlikely he is moved in season.
I do believe if the Flames miss the playoffs this year there is a good chance he is moved this coming off season.
So my comments aren't misconstrued, I am saying there would be a good chance he is traded for fair market value not GIVEN away.

- DEDDIE


He's a superstar making four million less than he's worth for two more years. They're not getting a superstar back in a trade and trading a superstar hardly ever works out. A fair market value trade is impossible.

There's also no chance the Flames miss the playoffs. They've played like absolute garbage so far and they're still right there. They've had a brutal schedule so far and Gaudreau is going to get going eventually. Wouldn't be shocked if they've caught the Oilers by the time they play on the 27th.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Monday @ 12:29 PM ET
Ghost and jake for johnny + whatever salary to make the money work...sure why not
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