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Familiar with that quite well, still doesn't help me about Skinners recent stats, not used to WAS, but current.

15 pts, 9 mil. 2nd line PP. He plays with the studs on the PP, well did until he was demoted to the 2nd PP and nutin'.
- GilPerreault11

We'll see at the end of the year. He's tied for 10th in the league in high danger scoring chances with Auston Matthews. They will --probably-- start going in more, and then you can stop crying about it.

Technically he is a one trick pony still, but now it's a different trick for the same pony. He doesn't score at a generational rate anymore, but he's got some assists through 26 games
- jcragcrumple

If 7 goals is one trick

what is 10 goals and 5 assists? A pony limping on two legs?

Or 11 assists while playing with Jack and Olofson and the 1st line PP? A pony limping too?

If 7 goals is one trick

what is 10 goals and 5 assists? A pony limping on two legs?

Or 11 assists while playing with Jack and Olofson and the 1st line PP? A pony limping too?
- GilPerreault11

We have one top end player.

He thinks Skinner is bad

I really need to bookmark this thread and revisit at year-end. Someone's going to be eating crow. We've reached the point where middle ground is unattainable.

If 7 goals is one trick

what is 10 goals and 5 assists? A pony limping on two legs?

Or 11 assists while playing with Jack and Olofson and the 1st line PP? A pony limping too?
- GilPerreault11

Im curious if you watched the powerplay while he was on it? Skinner was in the slot and a non factor in the gameplan. Theres a reason 90% of the powerplay points were dahlin - eichel - olofsson, because those were the only 3 to ever touch the puck.

We'll see at the end of the year. He's tied for 10th in the league in high danger scoring chances with Auston Matthews. They will --probably-- start going in more, and then you can stop crying about it.
- robz228

I hope he does but I still think that 9 million will be a contract we regret soon. Not 5 years when he is 33.

Im curious if you watched the powerplay while he was on it? Skinner was in the slot and a non factor in the gameplan. Theres a reason 90% of the powerplay points were dahlin - eichel - olofsson, because those were the only 3 to ever touch the puck.
- robz228

I guess it was hard to argue the results early in the year, but paying a guy $9 million to be a decoy seems asinine to me.

If 7 goals is one trick

what is 10 goals and 5 assists? A pony limping on two legs?

Or 11 assists while playing with Jack and Olofson and the 1st line PP? A pony limping too?
- GilPerreault11

He's a centaur with a battle axe

Since Laine is an elite playmaker now instead of a sniper, why are we comparing them?

I guess it was hard to argue the results early in the year, but paying a guy $9 million to be a decoy seems asinine to me.
- buffalofan19

Yeah, thats a coaching question though. Not of the player.

Once their 3 man passing attack fizzled, their powerplay is abysmal. Shocker.

He's a centaur with a battle axe

Since Laine is an elite playmaker now instead of a sniper, why are we comparing them?
- jcragcrumple

Because every centaur with a battle axe longs to be a Minotaur with a light-saber. Everyone knows this.

Im curious if you watched the powerplay while he was on it? Skinner was in the slot and a non factor in the gameplan. Theres a reason 90% of the powerplay points were dahlin - eichel - olofsson, because those were the only 3 to ever touch the puck.
- robz228

Yes, he was a non factor in the PP.

1) Because he can't set up on the half wall

2.) can't shoot from the half wall

3.) can't play the point

4.) Not big enough to screen

5.) Not sure if he was getting open or not in the slot when they had to mix it up when other teams knew they were trying to pass across for the one timer and took that away, but he wasn't a factor in the slot then, hence 2nd PP.

Yeah, thats a coaching question though. Not of the player.

Once their 3 man passing attack fizzled, their powerplay is abysmal. Shocker.
- robz228

It’s also why no one should care about overall point totals. For anyone.

I really need to bookmark this thread and revisit at year-end. Someone's going to be eating crow. We've reached the point where middle ground is unattainable.
- buffalofan19

You should of never said new blog... should of left them b -_- itching in the old blog...

Yes, he was a non factor in the PP.

1) Because he can't set up on the half wall

2.) can't shoot from the half wall

3.) can't play the point

4.) Not big enough to screen

5.) Not sure if he was getting open or not in the slot when they had to mix it up when other teams knew they were trying to pass across for the one timer and took that away, but he wasn't a factor in the slot then, hence 2nd PP.
- GilPerreault11

You're like legitimately braindead

Yes, he was a non factor in the PP.

1) Because he can't set up on the half wall

2.) can't shoot from the half wall

3.) can't play the point

4.) Not big enough to screen

5.) Not sure if he was getting open or not in the slot when they had to mix it up when other teams knew they were trying to pass across for the one timer and took that away, but he wasn't a factor in the slot then, hence 2nd PP.
- GilPerreault11

That entire gameplan was to put both Reinhart and Skinner in the slot to clog up the middle and open up passing plays. It worked...until teams figured out what they were doing and ignored the slot altogether.

Yes, he was a non factor in the PP.

1) Because he can't set up on the half wall

2.) can't shoot from the half wall

3.) can't play the point

4.) Not big enough to screen

5.) Not sure if he was getting open or not in the slot when they had to mix it up when other teams knew they were trying to pass across for the one timer and took that away, but he wasn't a factor in the slot then, hence 2nd PP.
- GilPerreault11

This is such a bad-faith discussion. You keep cycling back and forth between skinner is bad and "i dont think skinner is bad but the contract will be regretted"

Then you blame him for not playing every position on the powerplay when that is undeniably a coaching decision.

You're either completely void of intelligence, or just (frank)ing with me. In which case, well done.

I really need to bookmark this thread and revisit at year-end. Someone's going to be eating crow. We've reached the point where middle ground is unattainable.
- buffalofan19

ROR flamewar part deux:

Super scorer or my little one trick pony

That entire gameplan was to put both Reinhart and Skinner in the slot to clog up the middle and open up passing plays. It worked...until teams figured out what they were doing and ignored the slot altogether.
- buffalofan19

That was taken away so their strategy diversified and he was still a non factor

It’s also why no one should care about overall point totals. For anyone.
- sbroads24

You’re right overall team goals don’t matter. Overall points don’t matter.

This is such a bad-faith discussion. You keep cycling back and forth between skinner is bad and "i dont think skinner is bad but the contract will be regretted"

Then you blame him for not playing every position on the powerplay when that is undeniably a coaching decision.

You're either completely void of intelligence, or just (frank)ing with me. In which case, well done.
- robz228

It’s hilarious to watch these two dig themselves such a deep hole.

It’s gonna be fun to see the back tracking

He thinks Skinner is bad
- sbroads24

Skinner is what he's been for a long time.

a 30~ goal, 50~ point guy who is capable of pushing both of those number up by about 10 or down by about 5 depending on deployment.

You’re right overall team goals don’t matter. Overall points don’t matter.
- Pegullaville

How do you correlate that to what I said?

Overall point totals have always been heavily influenced by TOI, teammates, PP strategy, PP ice time.

A players overall point total is a very bad way to evaluate a player.

This is such a bad-faith discussion. You keep cycling back and forth between skinner is bad and "i dont think skinner is bad but the contract will be regretted"

Then you blame him for not playing every position on the powerplay when that is undeniably a coaching decision.

You're either completely void of intelligence, or just (frank)ing with me. In which case, well done.
- robz228

They were not having only one option on the PP but mainly only one was working the one timer. The slot was an option if it was open but he wasn't open and creative enough in the middle getting open in the hot zone. Why do you think they demoted him? Because he was doing a bang up job?