I'm calling this fake news, because Holl has an A on his sweater.

WTF?
- Atomic Wedgie

Probably a preseason game where they iced next to no one actually on the team.

But being part of an angry mob is so much fun!

I bought a pitchfork and a torch and everything!
- Atomic Wedgie

My pitchfork is my torch. It's fueled by the hatred that consumes me.

I really wish you knew the entire story.. That's your homework for today, go read up and learn what really happened..
- PatC80

keefe was young and cocky and thought it was ok to be involved in violent and abusive behaviour.
then eventually things came out - and people said 'it's ok because you were a kid and under influence of an adult - hence you're not responsible'.
great out option - keefe apologized and now he's a great person!!

(people obviously like to forget about his antics while he was already a young adult playing in ahl)

Makes you wonder, why was Babs so loyal to Marleau.. Last season it was obvious, he wasn't the same player..
- PatC80

My wild guess is that Babs always thought that a vet would make smarter plays late in games - Marleau could be "trusted."

I think Babs was 100% wrong, but you asked me to take a guess.

I'm calling this fake news, because Holl has an A on his sweater.

WTF?
- Atomic Wedgie

Preseason game? Maybe?

My pitchfork is my torch. It's fueled by the hatred that consumes me.
- RickJames77

Might not be the smartest idea to haul hay bales with a pitchfork torch...

keefe was young and cocky and thought it was ok to be involved in violent and abusive behaviour.
then eventually things came out - and people said 'it's ok because you were a kid and under influence of an adult - hence you're not responsible'.
great out option - keefe apologized and now he's a great person!!

(people obviously like to forget about his antics while he was already a young adult playing in ahl)
- MaximusAurelius

Let's not go through this again, a few days ago you posted that people on HB condone rape when you brought up Keefe.

Probably a preseason game where they iced next to no one actually on the team.
- RickJames77

Except the NHL has a rule whereby you have to dress a certain number of vets in any pre-season game.

It goes back to about 1983 (give or take a year) when the Habs brought an absolute load of stiffs to Toronto. Ballard complained, and the league forced Montreal to send a couple more guys on the afternoon train to Toronto.

I know, because I was at that game!!!!

Let's not go through this again, a few days ago you posted that people on HB condone rape when you brought up Keefe.
- PatC80

wrong but whatever.

My wild guess is that Babs always thought that a vet would make smarter plays late in games - Marleau could be "trusted."

I think Babs was 100% wrong, but you asked me to take a guess.
- Atomic Wedgie

I didn't ask you too, but thanks.... for guessing?



Also, why did he trust Kris Draper more than Modano?

No guessing this time

Might not be the smartest idea to haul hay bales with a pitchfork torch...
- Atomic Wedgie

Let's not go through this again, a few days ago you posted that people on HB condone rape when you brought up Keefe.
- PatC80

It's obvious that he is not going to change his opinion, so none of us has anything to gain by engaging him in his argument.

Just let it go.

wrong but whatever.
- MaximusAurelius

you did, it was the blog in which Makita banned you...

I didn't ask you too, but thanks.... for guessing?



Also, why did he trust Kris Draper more than Modano?

No guessing this time
- PatC80

Because Draper was a year younger.

Because Draper was a year younger.
- Atomic Wedgie

that makes sense.. Babs went with a younger lineup.

you did, it was the blog in which Makita banned you...
- PatC80

I'm saying that I never said that Keefe raped anyone - that's how you make this sound.

Except the NHL has a rule whereby you have to dress a certain number of vets in any pre-season game.

It goes back to about 1983 (give or take a year) when the Habs brought an absolute load of stiffs to Toronto. Ballard complained, and the league forced Montreal to send a couple more guys on the afternoon train to Toronto.

I know, because I was at that game!!!!
- Atomic Wedgie

From another hockey website that I won't link to, because I don't want to be banned:

Preseason games and the veteran rule
The CBA (in Article 15, paragraph 4 if you like to read the original material) says teams must dress at least eight “veterans” for each preseason game. It’s significant that word is not capitalised because the definition does not tie out to how we use it in normal conversation.

A player is considered to be a “veteran” if they meet any one of the following criteria:

Skaters who played 30 NHL games the previous season

Goalies who dressed in 50 NHL games, or played in 30 NHL games the previous year

Any player who has played 100 or more NHL games

A current year first round pick

It's obvious that he is not going to change his opinion, so none of us has anything to gain by engaging him in his argument.

Just let it go.
- Atomic Wedgie

I want to let it go, like Elsa in Frozen 1 and 2, Like, I really want to let it go, but he is just so wrong, and acts like he is so right... I'm not a fan of his holier than thou attitude.

I'm saying that I never said that Keefe raped anyone - that's how you make this sound.
- MaximusAurelius

I make it sound that way, because that's what you said

As well - Franzen got several concussions, was suffering side-effects but didn't tell the medical / coaching staff.

Gets a nervous breakdown.

Obviously Babcock is to blame because he 'yelled at him'...

really guys?

new blog everyone

I make it sound that way, because that's what you said
- PatC80

keep on making things up. i said he was involved in a group that was physically abusing teenage girls.
never said he raped.
but whatever.

Other than the fact that Modano was not contributing to the team and there were other guys who could replace him and make a bigger contribution, which is kinda Babcock's job to do?

Did Babcock really have to start the season counting back from 1500 and figure out just how many games Modano needed to hit a completely franking meaningless mark, or should he have just coached the team to the best of his ability?

It wasn't the last game of the season - it was the 4th last game of the season, and the Wings were trying to catch the Sharks for a better playoff seed.


I don't give flying frank - the Red Wings did not owe him a victory lap. If he couldn't contribute (hint: he couldn't - he franking sucked. He only played 2 playoff games that year in 2 rounds, because he franking sucked), he shouldn't be on the ice.
- Atomic Wedgie

Nope, babs is monster cause Santos is really invested in modanos 1500th game after reading that people are angry about it.

I want to let it go, like Elsa in Frozen 1 and 2, Like, I really want to let it go, but he is just so wrong, and acts like he is so right... I'm not a fan of his holier than thou attitude.
- PatC80

Mrs. Wedgie took the littlest Wedgie to Frozen 2.

I dodged that bullet.

Booooo-yeah!

keep on making things up. i said he was involved in a group that was physically abusing teenage girls.
never said he raped.
but whatever.
- MaximusAurelius

Does this mean you are finally gonna drop it?