Might consider it for the year because he can go right back out there and he would have a decent chance at playoffs and a cup but who knows... hard to really say there.
- Roadrunner75

Yeah but he can just tell Anaheim he is sticking there until February.

I would.

Franzen's comments about how Babs would go off on anyone including arena staff is pretty bad. Or the stuff around Chelios is the outdoor game is (frank)ed.
- Zezel

I knew he was a tough coach but now I know he is just an awful person.

I knew he was a tough coach but now I know he is just an awful person.
- Santo_44

Most likely just scratching the surface, some may not even come out.

It's shocking seeing anyone even remotely trying to defend him still. Sheer lunacy.

Most likely just scratching the surface, some may not even come out.

It's shocking seeing anyone even remotely trying to defend him still. Sheer lunacy.
- burn

I did get it before all this poop came out.

I mean I knew he was rough around the edges. Like that story about him telling that young kid he would never see NHL ice again before he even stepped on the ice...but some stuff coming out now is just awful. No player should have to listen to a guy like that.

I knew he was a tough coach but now I know he is just an awful person.
- Santo_44

Funny when the dam breaks on something like that and people come forward. I was super stoked about Babcock's hiring and defended him, believed the hype around his success, but I was wrong.

All his guru posturing about being a good person rings hollow and creepy now. Definite narcissistic personality disorder signals.

Wow are NHL teams ever going to be salivating over NJ rental players this year

I did get it before all this poop came out.

I mean I knew he was rough around the edges. Like that story about him telling that young kid he would never see NHL ice again before he even stepped on the ice...but some stuff coming out now is just awful. No player should have to listen to a guy like that.
- Santo_44

The poop we are hearing about...... No wonder players don't want to play for him. The leafs are giddy right now cause they are no longer getting tormented.


Franzen called him the worst human he's ever known.

Funny when the dam breaks on something like that and people come forward. I was super stoked about Babcock's hiring and defended him, believed the hype around his success, but I was wrong.

All his guru posturing about being a good person rings hollow and creepy now. Definite narcissistic personality disorder signals.
- Zezel

Yeah I bought into what he was selling.

The fact that Keefe stuck around in the AHL tells me Dubas told him to be ready.

In fact a friend of mine who plays hockey with some family of Keefs told me that Dubas told Keefe to “be ready” last summer.

I took it with a grain of salt but I’m kinda believing it now

Funny when the dam breaks on something like that and people come forward. I was super stoked about Babcock's hiring and defended him, believed the hype around his success, but I was wrong.

All his guru posturing about being a good person rings hollow and creepy now. Definite narcissistic personality disorder signals.
- Zezel

This is what gets me too.

The poop we are hearing about...... No wonder players don't want to play for him. The leafs are giddy right now cause they are no longer getting tormented.


Franzen called him the worst human he's ever known.
- burn

I’m happy for them, and as a Leaf fan I’m happy because they are a more desirable team to play for now.

Ray Ferraro and Mike Johnson on overdrive today said Babcock might not get another job in the nhl after this, especially as more and more comes out.

No team wants to bring in a guy who is known tormentor of players, gaurantee to rip the team apart.

The poop we are hearing about...... No wonder players don't want to play for him. The leafs are giddy right now cause they are no longer getting tormented.


Franzen called him the worst human he's ever known.
- burn

That takes a lot to be someone's worst human ever.

There are options.

They just will have to pay a premium because at least in the east, no teams are going to help the Leafs.

Pittsburgh is the obvious option but they are seriously helping the Leafs if they trade them a goalie.
- Santo_44

Where’s Steve Mason?

Ray Ferraro and Mike Johnson on overdrive today said Babcock might not get another job in the nhl after this, especially as more and more comes out.

No team wants to bring in a guy who is known tormentor of players, gaurantee to rip the team apart.
- burn

Babcock doesn't need to work anymore anyways.

It's pretty slim pickins as far as goalies available in the NHL. Maybe Dubas and Shanny can do a road trip to Europe and find the best goalie not in the NHL at the moment. Hutch has to go
- winsix

Monster? Neinverth give it another go? Huet?

Where’s Steve Mason?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Didn't retire due to injuries?

Monster? Neinverth give it another go? Huet?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

800k or less is what the Leafs can afford at this time.

Didn't retire due to injuries?
- dmnted

Maybe, I was legit asking? Dunno

800k or less is what the Leafs can afford at this time.
- dmnted

All these minutes and Ceci might end up on Robidas island. Clarkson and Horton must be bored over there.

Maybe, I was legit asking? Dunno
- Byfuglien Ate Me

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ay-retire-10-nhl-seasons/

close to retiring

man he was injured a lot.

Just read that article about Babcock, where Chelios and Franzen spoke out about him. All I can say is, wow. Also brought up his poopty moves of preventing Modano from getting his 1500 game and scratching Spezza against Ottawa. Pretty sure we noticed a few similar things in the past.

And then there's this weird story about making Marner rank his teammates (their effort, iirc) and then showing the other players? Like wtf is that? Are you trying to make your player hate each other?

Maybe Marner's dad had reason for his complaints back a while ago after all. The things that come out eventually, Huh?

Ceci+ for Vatanen 50% salary retained could be a nice January trade.

Just read that article about Babcock, where Chelios and Franzen spoke out about him. All I can say is, wow. Also brought up his poopty moves of preventing Modano from getting his 1500 game and scratching Spezza against Ottawa. Pretty sure we noticed a few similar things in the past.

And then there's this weird story about making Marner rank his teammates (their effort, iirc) and then showing the other players? Like wtf is that? Are you trying to make your player hate each other?

Maybe Marner's dad had reason for his complaints back a while ago after all. The things that come out eventually, Huh?
- Thecakeisalie

Good on him for keeping his mouth shut.

Seriously, he’s the type of guy that would tell the world about that stuff

Just read that article about Babcock, where Chelios and Franzen spoke out about him. All I can say is, wow. Also brought up his poopty moves of preventing Modano from getting his 1500 game and scratching Spezza against Ottawa. Pretty sure we noticed a few similar things in the past.

And then there's this weird story about making Marner rank his teammates (their effort, iirc) and then showing the other players? Like wtf is that? Are you trying to make your player hate each other?

Maybe Marner's dad had reason for his complaints back a while ago after all. The things that come out eventually, Huh?
- Thecakeisalie

Regardless of what happens this season, I’m glad Babcock is gone.

Regardless of what happens this season, I’m glad Babcock is gone.
- Steven_Seagull

Pain is coming..


For Babcock.