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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Jan 12 @ 11:47 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Flames 4, Oilers 3: Kassian hands Calgary 1st place
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Jan 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Flames 4, Oilers 3: Kassian hands Calgary 1st place
- ToddCordellCGY

That’s a bullshîte click bait headline to start with Todd. Your better than that.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
That’s a bullshîte click bait headline to start with Todd. Your better than that.
- Flamin_Irishmin


It is what happened though. Kassian/Tkachuk was the difference in the game. On another note, I really hope Lucic gets more effective towards the end of the season and hopefully in the playoffs. IMO, there are better options at league minimum.
Htowntigers89
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:13 PM ET
Not a Calgary fan but watch the game last night. Had a few guys from my fantasy team playing. Thought both hits on Kassian Were clean. The only thing that was dirty was Kassian’s response. Should be zero tolerance for that kind of attack against a player who was clearly not engaging back. The punches to the back of his head while he was on the ice was barbaric and had more intent to injure than the hits. The hits were hockey plays. The punches to the back of the head of a man that is down is not.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 12 @ 12:17 PM ET
The HNIC panelists had it right for once saying there is nothing wrong with the play at all ends. Kassians response is justified after getting it all game and there was still plenty of game left for the oilers to tie it up. Being on the Pk doesn’t cost teams games. Being on them doesn’t help but you are expected to kill them off. I don’t think any of his teammates would/should be pissed at him for standing up for himself, if tkachuck was doing the same things to mcdavid and kassian stepped in and responded the way he did this wouldn’t be a debate.

As far as tkachuck goes I wouldn’t say he pussied out or turtled on the play like oilers fans say. He pretty well got man handled by a known tough guy above his weight class. While being ragdolled like he was all tkachuck can really do in that situation is block the punches. He never really stood a chance in that situation. He could have asked kassian for a fight after he got out of the box but that late in the game and up by 1 is more important.

All in all there was nothing wrong with the play and there shouldn’t be and supplemental discipline. Although it appears kassian will receive something which will be for the punches that he gave tkachuck while he was on the ground. I don’t think it should be suspendable but it is against the rules.
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Jan 12 @ 12:33 PM ET
The HNIC panelists had it right for once saying there is nothing wrong with the play at all ends. Kassians response is justified after getting it all game and there was still plenty of game left for the oilers to tie it up. Being on the Pk doesn’t cost teams games. Being on them doesn’t help but you are expected to kill them off. I don’t think any of his teammates would/should be pissed at him for standing up for himself, if tkachuck was doing the same things to mcdavid and kassian stepped in and responded the way he did this wouldn’t be a debate.

As far as tkachuck goes I wouldn’t say he pussied out or turtled on the play like oilers fans say. He pretty well got man handled by a known tough guy above his weight class. While being ragdolled like he was all tkachuck can really do in that situation is block the punches. He never really stood a chance in that situation. He could have asked kassian for a fight after he got out of the box but that late in the game and up by 1 is more important.

All in all there was nothing wrong with the play and there shouldn’t be and supplemental discipline. Although it appears kassian will receive something which will be for the punches that he gave tkachuck while he was on the ground. I don’t think it should be suspendable but it is against the rules.

- RedC21

Learn how to Godamn spell but Chucky took the beating and went on with the game. Stay off the tracks if you don’t know how to play, like he said. Baited and cooked..
pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Jan 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
Not a Calgary fan but watch the game last night. Had a few guys from my fantasy team playing. Thought both hits on Kassian Were clean. The only thing that was dirty was Kassian’s response. Should be zero tolerance for that kind of attack against a player who was clearly not engaging back. The punches to the back of his head while he was on the ice was barbaric and had more intent to injure than the hits. The hits were hockey plays. The punches to the back of the head of a man that is down is not.
- Htowntigers89

Totally agree with your statement ! Tkachuk didn’t engage in a fight but to his defence when a guy I said grabbing your shoulder pads from behind and not letting go and continuously punching you from behind that is cheep And dirty! Do it face to face zak honestly Burtuzzi did the same thing he grabbed Moore from behind and punched him. Kassian should be and will be suspended for intent to injure
MABster
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jan 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
Thanks HNIC-- we see the McDavid goal 15 times in replays during the game, and they even show it to James Neal, for some reason, during his interview between periods. Any Calgary goal got 5 - 6 looks, at most. And Jim Hughson is such a shill. He announced every time that McDavid started a line change. I guess he misses saying "Daniel and Henrick" fifteen times a game, so he has to be a fanboy for the Oilers.
Yeah, Connor's fast and tricky. We get it.
But I'm so over it. I don't need to see close-ups of him on the bench (I could count his nosehairs), especially when there were better players on the other team.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
That’s a bullshîte click bait headline to start with Todd. Your better than that.
- Flamin_Irishmin


No he really isn’t. Ever since the Flames traded for Lucic, Todd has behaved like a bitter toddler regarding anything Oiler’s related. It’s actually quite funny.

I think Todd is just trying to get his equilibrium back in order after all of the spin he was doing regarding Lucic and his elite defensive play.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jan 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
The HNIC panelists had it right for once saying there is nothing wrong with the play at all ends. Kassians response is justified after getting it all game and there was still plenty of game left for the oilers to tie it up. Being on the Pk doesn’t cost teams games. Being on them doesn’t help but you are expected to kill them off. I don’t think any of his teammates would/should be pissed at him for standing up for himself, if tkachuck was doing the same things to mcdavid and kassian stepped in and responded the way he did this wouldn’t be a debate.

As far as tkachuck goes I wouldn’t say he pussied out or turtled on the play like oilers fans say. He pretty well got man handled by a known tough guy above his weight class. While being ragdolled like he was all tkachuck can really do in that situation is block the punches. He never really stood a chance in that situation. He could have asked kassian for a fight after he got out of the box but that late in the game and up by 1 is more important.

All in all there was nothing wrong with the play and there shouldn’t be and supplemental discipline. Although it appears kassian will receive something which will be for the punches that he gave tkachuck while he was on the ground. I don’t think it should be suspendable but it is against the rules.

- RedC21

What a stupid post! I get why Oiler fans are choked about Tkachuk not standing up for his hits on the ice. But that isnt what he does with every team, he targets teams biggest or bigger players that he knows will react & retaliate. He does whatever to get an edge to win a game. Now Kassian had every reason for payback, but when you clearly see a player isnt going to engage you back off & pick a different spot. Going psycho & racking up the penalty minutes is selfish, undisciplined & only hurts your team. Kassian will probably get at least 3 games for this & deservedly so.
Donovan
Calgary Flames
Location: Princeton, ON
Joined: 09.20.2015

Jan 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
This is really just a demonstration what chucky can really do to you when push comes to shove and you as I say 'lost your poop' the team pays for it. The flames made them pay.

James Neal for lucic really are we still on this? By no stretch did the flames get a poop end of the deal but now neal is damn near stone cold the trade doesn't look so amazing after 4 goals a game does it!

Time will tell but really mcdavid cant actually save the oilers on his own, yes he has leon but that's still not enough. This game was probably a good turning point for the oilers and the flames got them where it counted most of all.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jan 12 @ 1:38 PM ET
What a stupid post! I get why Oiler fans are choked about Tkachuk not standing up for his hits on the ice. But that isnt what he does with every team, he targets teams biggest or bigger players that he knows will react & retaliate. He does whatever to get an edge to win a game. Now Kassian had every reason for payback, but when you clearly see a player isnt going to engage you back off & pick a different spot. Going psycho & racking up the penalty minutes is selfish, undisciplined & only hurts your team. Kassian will probably get at least 3 games for this & deservedly so.
- Kevin R


Not that I expect anything but if Lucic got a couple for that gloved punch, Kassian should get at least that for 10 punches.
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jan 12 @ 1:39 PM ET
What a stupid post! I get why Oiler fans are choked about Tkachuk not standing up for his hits on the ice. But that isnt what he does with every team, he targets teams biggest or bigger players that he knows will react & retaliate. He does whatever to get an edge to win a game. Now Kassian had every reason for payback, but when you clearly see a player isnt going to engage you back off & pick a different spot. Going psycho & racking up the penalty minutes is selfish, undisciplined & only hurts your team. Kassian will probably get at least 3 games for this & deservedly so.
- Kevin R

Hey brother. Agreed! Every team would love Tkachuk on their team. He did his job and we won the game. Last year when he tried to fight the dreadle Oiler fans called him a goon. Lol! Even Tipps said after the game he wished Kass handled it differently.

All that being said if Chucky was on the Oilers and did that to us I’d be pissed!
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Jan 12 @ 1:50 PM ET
The HNIC panelists had it right for once saying there is nothing wrong with the play at all ends. Kassians response is justified after getting it all game and there was still plenty of game left for the oilers to tie it up. Being on the Pk doesn’t cost teams games. Being on them doesn’t help but you are expected to kill them off. I don’t think any of his teammates would/should be pissed at him for standing up for himself, if tkachuck was doing the same things to mcdavid and kassian stepped in and responded the way he did this wouldn’t be a debate.

As far as tkachuck goes I wouldn’t say he pussied out or turtled on the play like oilers fans say. He pretty well got man handled by a known tough guy above his weight class. While being ragdolled like he was all tkachuck can really do in that situation is block the punches. He never really stood a chance in that situation. He could have asked kassian for a fight after he got out of the box but that late in the game and up by 1 is more important.

All in all there was nothing wrong with the play and there shouldn’t be and supplemental discipline. Although it appears kassian will receive something which will be for the punches that he gave tkachuck while he was on the ground. I don’t think it should be suspendable but it is against the rules.

- RedC21



The fact is, Tkachuk threw Kassian off his game, got him to lose his mind to take a 4min penalty, and then Flames scored to win the game.

What will Kassian do next time Tkachuk lays him out? Nothing, because the league is calling him today to punish him for being an overreacting lil female dog.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jan 12 @ 2:08 PM ET
Hey brother. Agreed! Every team would love Tkachuk on their team. He did his job and we won the game. Last year when he tried to fight the dreadle Oiler fans called him a goon. Lol! Even Tipps said after the game he wished Kass handled it differently.

All that being said if Chucky was on the Oilers and did that to us I’d be pissed!

- Clyde334


It's not like it's any secret how Tkachuk plays the game, in fact he is a calculating antagonist. The league knows what he is. To call him coward I think it would be the very opposite. He has balls to go after a guy he knows could clean his clock in a fight not just once but 3 fcking times. He didnt go after small guys, he went after the Oilers biggest emotionally unstable guy. That was calculated. That's a team player!

Next game I would like to see Rinaldo & Lucic take a few runs at Kassian right at the start. I also wish Ras was out there because when McJesus took a cross check at Tkachuks back at the beginning of the scrum, I wish Ras would went right after Mcdavid & popped him a few times.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jan 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Tkachuk is getting close to Marchand levels of hate for other teams fan bases. Brings a tear to my eye!
Slappywaggle
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.20.2013

Jan 12 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'm not surprised you're defending the little turtle. However, lets be honest. The first hit should of had him removed from the game, he clearly charges Kassian, leaves his feet, and hits him in the neck/head. Yes his head was down, but turtle boy comes from near the faceoff circle to below the goalline to throw a hit on a defenseless player. If the officials would do their job this wouldn't have happened. Do I care that we lost? Yes, every game we lose to this pathetic team down south irks me. Am I happy that turtle got thrown around? Heck yes, only thing that would've made it better is if the linesmen let him get in another 10 shots and knocked him out cold for the first hit. For the record. Aside from a potential charging penalty on the hit that set Kassian off, I thought it was a great hit.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jan 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
Tkachuk is getting close to Marchand levels of hate for other teams fan bases. Brings a tear to my eye!
- DuranDuran


He’s more offensive than Marchand was early in his career too ...
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 12 @ 3:00 PM ET
Learn how to Godamn spell but Chucky took the beating and went on with the game. Stay off the tracks if you don’t know how to play, like he said. Baited and cooked..
- Flamin_Irishmin


Pardon if my spelling sucks. I’m a Calgary fan myself. I just think that from each sides point of view neither fan base should be upset or saying one another did something wrong on the play. It was an old fashioned battle of Alberta tilt. Solid tough game, that I’m sure will slide over into the next one
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jan 12 @ 3:27 PM ET
Pretty dirty stuff from Kassian. Those were all good hits. I really could not believe Lucic wasn’t there to give Kassian a taste of his own medicine when he came back in the third.

Tkachuk went right back and hit him again when he came back. Good for him. Didn’t back down.

Solid stuff from Tkachuk after getting ragdolled
Hockeyfan4life14
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.23.2019

Jan 12 @ 4:46 PM ET
I'm not surprised you're defending the little turtle. However, lets be honest. The first hit should of had him removed from the game, he clearly charges Kassian, leaves his feet, and hits him in the neck/head. Yes his head was down, but turtle boy comes from near the faceoff circle to below the goalline to throw a hit on a defenseless player. If the officials would do their job this wouldn't have happened. Do I care that we lost? Yes, every game we lose to this pathetic team down south irks me. Am I happy that turtle got thrown around? Heck yes, only thing that would've made it better is if the linesmen let him get in another 10 shots and knocked him out cold for the first hit. For the record. Aside from a potential charging penalty on the hit that set Kassian off, I thought it was a great hit.
- Slappywaggle


Sloppy your a idiot ! The crap u say makes you look foolish and uneducated about anything hockey but hey your a coiler fan can’t expect anything less I guess
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jan 12 @ 5:04 PM ET
“If (Kassian) doesn’t want to get hit, then stay off the tracks. I caught him three times there – you think he’d learn after the first one. If he wants to react that way we’ll take the pp, we’ll take the game winner, & we’ll move on to first place”

Tkachuk
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Jan 12 @ 5:08 PM ET
Tkachuk is getting close to Marchand levels of hate for other teams fan bases. Brings a tear to my eye!
- DuranDuran


Still way to go to match his brother.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jan 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
Pretty dirty stuff from Kassian. Those were all good hits. I really could not believe Lucic wasn’t there to give Kassian a taste of his own medicine when he came back in the third.

Tkachuk went right back and hit him again when he came back. Good for him. Didn’t back down.

Solid stuff from Tkachuk after getting ragdolled

- Mahewman


This is just it...he wants a fight? fight in his own weight/skill class. Lucic would happily fight him. Or get Tkachuck back with a clean hit of your own

To cost your team a game like that and say you would do it again? what a fool...Tkachuck was so hurt he was screening the goalie for the GWG on the very penalty Kassian took.

As for the Turtle stuff whatever...If McDavid or Drai hits Lucic they have to fight him? Is this the rule? Why didn't RNH fight Andersson? turtle?

At least the league got it right for once


Anyway the Flames need to move on they are the far better team. Standings might be tight but the Flames were 10+ points behind the Oilers like 6 weeks ago. Calgary is what 15-5-2 since Peters got the boot? forget about these bubble teams and cement that playoff spot
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 12 @ 8:34 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Flames 4, Oilers 3: Kassian hands Calgary 1st place
- ToddCordellCGY


As an outsider, not favoring Kassian or Matt, I have to say I was not impressed with Kassian. Yes, if Matt hit McD like that I would expect Kassian to go nuts on the guy, but come on, take his number and get him later. Bragging about your career high 13 goals sure doesn't make you a legit top 6 forward bud. Beyond their top 2 forwards, the Oil is the weakest team in the league hands down. Looks bad when their tough guy can't take a hit and puts his team shorthanded. But eh, that 2 important points the Oil missed out on.
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