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wonthecup10
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Joined: 02.05.2008

Jan 13 @ 10:22 PM ET
NO THANKS !! Dirty a$$ player.
- BobP.


He would Change , The neutering process would take place, and the softening up with all the next wave of Chevy commercials ,endorsements that McDonough would bestow upon him, he would win the lady Bing😂
Ogilthorpe2
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 13 @ 10:30 PM ET
Maybe so, maybe I was wrong on what I called him, he’s one of those guys that you hate when he’s wearing the other teams uniforms but probably would love to be wearing yours.
Yes I would like a couple like him that can play the game also.Starting with Tom Wilson.

- wonthecup10

I would never love a douchenozzle like him, no matter who’s sweater he wore.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 13 @ 10:32 PM ET
"Tough guy negotiating"? I thought you were better than that.

Let's say the scenario played out the way you said. Then the Oilers would have gotten 6 years out of him at proper value and he could test the open market when his skills are diminishing. And in the meantime, they'd have a better chance at a cup with the extra $4 million. Or, you know, if they weren't going to contend, in the last year of his contract, they could trade him for a nice package.

People seem to be forgetting the lesson the '18 Vegas team taught us. Top heavy teams don't win. 3 players costing $7 million are better than 2 players at $10.5 million.

- tazer_and_diet


Sorry, Tazer, that tough guy line came across wrong. Meant hard line negotiating. Your stance makes plenty of logical sense, but it is less and less the stance GM's seem to be taking with star RFA's. They could all be wrong, and acting like lemmings. Or they're choosing to pay the money in the young years.
BobP.
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 12.29.2010

Jan 13 @ 10:33 PM ET
I would never love a douchenozzle like him, no matter who’s sweater he wore.
- Ogilthorpe2


THIS......……….IN SPADES!!!

i………..can't...…….stand...……..the...……….little...……….JERK
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:40 PM ET
What the (frank) Jag off Marchand and couldn’t happen to a better guy over skated the puck in the shoot out and lost the game,Good for the Flyers.
- wonthecup10


skate and a miss...never seen this before

https://twitter.com/repor...tatus/1216917096292061184
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 10:42 PM ET
Isn’t Marchand exactly the kind of jag off you are always wishing the Hawks had?
- Ogilthorpe2


zach kassian...baby...he da man...

some in these parts find him entertaining...

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ded-two-games/c-313886178
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jan 13 @ 11:05 PM ET
skate and a miss...never seen this before

https://twitter.com/repor...tatus/1216917096292061184

- bogiedoc


I actually laughed when I saw it. I said WTF I’ve never seen that before.
Slofire94
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 01.17.2016

Jan 13 @ 11:06 PM ET
"Tough guy negotiating"? I thought you were better than that.

Let's say the scenario played out the way you said. Then the Oilers would have gotten 6 years out of him at proper value and he could test the open market when his skills are diminishing. And in the meantime, they'd have a better chance at a cup with the extra $4 million. Or, you know, if they weren't going to contend, in the last year of his contract, they could trade him for a nice package.

People seem to be forgetting the lesson the '18 Vegas team taught us. Top heavy teams don't win. 3 players costing $7 million are better than 2 players at $10.5 million.

- tazer_and_diet


Lets take a trip down memory lane, shall we
Around the time Toews / Kane signed their contracts... (+/- a year)

Milan Lucic got 6M
Derek Stepan got 6.5M
Kesler got ~7M
Seabrook got ~7M
Bobby Ryan got 7.25M
Krejci got 7.25M

Who would you rather have, Toews/Kane
Or any combo of three above...

I think Kane has been, and is worth, every penny of 10.5M
Toews, not so much, but what can you really do
Winning pays, its a business, and yea we'd all love to find a magical formula that wins the Blackhawks cup after cup after cup, but not every team can emulate the Patriots

And let's face it, the front office probably figured that by paying Toews/Kane (the super stars on championship teams) they'd make more money giving the fanbase (false) hope that we'd see championship #4, 5, 6 in the Kane/Toews era.

They were wrong.
But they took a safer bet than trying to sell off their superstars and build a championship roster full of bridesmaids like, say, the Predators model.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jan 13 @ 11:08 PM ET
We sure could use some decent rumors to spice things up around here.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 11:12 PM ET
We sure could use some decent rumors to spice things up around here.
- gifman



Should we start making things up?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jan 13 @ 11:15 PM ET
We sure could use some decent rumors to spice things up around here.
- gifman



jaeckel for ecklund plus a 1st round rumor
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jan 13 @ 11:17 PM ET
I dont understand why anyone would want to trade Kane. He will more than than likely be playing at the same level he is now for the next 6 years. He is likely to still be playing and playing as the top point producer for the hawks when he is 40. Kane in my opinion has not peaked in his game and continues to improve

Imagine what would happen if they provided him with some skilled offensive minded linemates [I dont consider Toews offensive minded]

His game does not put the wear and tear on his body that causes the drop in play

Kane should be made at a minimum an assistant captain
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 11:31 PM ET
I dont understand why anyone would want to trade Kane. He will more than than likely be playing at the same level he is now for the next 6 years. He is likely to still be playing and playing as the top point producer for the hawks when he is 40. Kane in my opinion has not peaked in his game and continues to improve

Imagine what would happen if they provided him with some skilled offensive minded linemates

- molly2522[I dont consider Toews offensive minded]

His game does not put the wear and tear on his body that causes the drop in play

Kane should be made at a minimum an assistant captain


Two words.... CAP SPACE.

I get that fans want to win, I want the team to win too. But the core delivered us 3 Cups, they've earned my loyalty and I can't bring myself to even think about wanting to see one of them go. I want to see Stan build a winner around these guys and watch them hoist Lord Stanley's mug at least one more time.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jan 13 @ 11:37 PM ET
Should we start making things up?
- DarthKane


No nudging blogger to reach out to his sources. Not like JJ though.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 11:39 PM ET
No nudging blogger to reach out to his sources. Not like JJ though.
- gifman



I have faith that if Ty here's anything, and deems it to have legs, he'll share.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 13 @ 11:49 PM ET
With Reilly out in Toronto, what would be a fair and reasonable (for both sides) return to send them Gustafsson?
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 13 @ 11:54 PM ET
What would be a fair price from Toronto for Maatta? Understanding that Ceci would have to be part of the package coming back for cap reasons.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 14 @ 12:29 AM ET
What would be a fair price from Toronto for Maatta? Understanding that Ceci would have to be part of the package coming back for cap reasons.
- Angotti


Probably a third, a second if they are desperate.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 14 @ 12:32 AM ET
With Reilly out in Toronto, what would be a fair and reasonable (for both sides) return to send them Gustafsson?
- DarthKane



Would take Jeremy Bracco, another top 6 type forward, who will never get a chance in that role for Toronto.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:33 AM ET
With Reilly out in Toronto, what would be a fair and reasonable (for both sides) return to send them Gustafsson?
- DarthKane

Future considerations so WTC can worry about them.

A 3rd would be fine by me.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:35 AM ET
What would be a fair price from Toronto for Maatta? Understanding that Ceci would have to be part of the package coming back for cap reasons.
- Angotti

Ceci and Maatta is pretty much a lateral move. There is no upside for the Leafs. Ceci will be an UFA at the end of the season. Maatta still has a couple of years left.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jan 14 @ 12:36 AM ET
They trade lard ass yet?
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 14 @ 4:53 AM ET
They trade lard ass yet?
- Elbows15

Lener to Colorado or Carolina for ?
Crawford and gust to Toronto for?
Saad to boston Edmonton buffalo for?

Go with delia and lannkian and see what the hawks have for next year. Approach Keith about waiving is nmt clause to go a contender for chance at another cup. These moves would signal a rebuild and not a retooling on the fly.

Other names for trades:
Matta smith kk Caggulia
tazer_and_diet
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.29.2012

Jan 14 @ 6:52 AM ET
Sorry, Tazer, that tough guy line came across wrong. Meant hard line negotiating. Your stance makes plenty of logical sense, but it is less and less the stance GM's seem to be taking with star RFA's. They could all be wrong, and acting like lemmings. Or they're choosing to pay the money in the young years.
- mohel


Ahh, no worries. I am not (really) lamenting the loss of the bridge deal, I think the NHL is trending younger, and those guys should get paid. (They should also then take less when they're older, but I'm doubtful they see it that way). But, at some point these GMs have to say, "I'll pay you $9 million, but you're not getting $11 million. My responsibility is to build a winner and I can't do that by handing out such large contracts. You can either get paid somewhere else or be part of a Champion here."
tazer_and_diet
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.29.2012

Jan 14 @ 7:01 AM ET
Lets take a trip down memory lane, shall we
Around the time Toews / Kane signed their contracts... (+/- a year)

Milan Lucic got 6M
Derek Stepan got 6.5M
Kesler got ~7M
Seabrook got ~7M
Bobby Ryan got 7.25M
Krejci got 7.25M

Who would you rather have, Toews/Kane
Or any combo of three above...

I think Kane has been, and is worth, every penny of 10.5M
Toews, not so much, but what can you really do
Winning pays, its a business, and yea we'd all love to find a magical formula that wins the Blackhawks cup after cup after cup, but not every team can emulate the Patriots

And let's face it, the front office probably figured that by paying Toews/Kane (the super stars on championship teams) they'd make more money giving the fanbase (false) hope that we'd see championship #4, 5, 6 in the Kane/Toews era.

They were wrong.
But they took a safer bet than trying to sell off their superstars and build a championship roster full of bridesmaids like, say, the Predators model.

- Slofire94


If you want to play that game, I'd rather have Bergeron, MacKinnon, and Stamkos (or Marchand). I love Kane, but as soon as he and Toews signed those contracts, the franchise was screwed. The Hawks are not going to win a cup while those contracts are still active.
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