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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:34 PM ET
This is how LL operates. I believe with the Devils he had a trade agreed to, but it got leaked to the media so he pulled the offer. I think it was with a Western Canadien team. You won't hear about a LL trade till it's announced.
- NYIFan4Life



No it’s not it’s beyond stupid
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:38 PM ET
No it’s not it’s beyond stupid
- nyisles7

So let me get this straight. You’re completely fine if Lou has Pageau and Toffoli on the table for a 2nd and Bellows and we don’t execute the trade because some intern for Ottawa leaks to dreger minutes before the deal is complete so Lou walks because he’s upset it leaked and they go to Pittsburgh because Rutherford’s feelings aren’t hurt? All is good with you?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:41 PM ET
Yeah right. Agreed. I wouldn’t let my pride get in the way of improving the team. Me first should always be what a GM believes that preaches a team first mentality in his organization. Excellent demonstration of leading by example.
- Cptmjl


It’s not pride it’s about keeping our deal between us. Players names who your thinking of trading get effected if it’s leaked. Especially if it’s BS or the deal doesn’t go down.
Here’s my deal, don’t use it in an auction of highest bidders. You have something better fine. If you want more from me propose it but keep it between us. It’s about respect.

Hard to live by?
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jan 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
.but have you seen chiefs llama song?

https://youtu.be/cKBnAV1bpRE

- Upstate_isles


WTF did I just watch?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
It’s not pride it’s about keeping our deal between us. Players names who your thinking of trading get effected if it’s leaked. Especially if it’s BS or the deal doesn’t go down.
Here’s my deal, don’t use it in an auction of highest bidders. You have something better fine. If you want more from me propose it but keep it between us. It’s about respect.

Hard to live by?

- nyisles7

Of course I get it. That is pride when you have a way you want to do things and someone changes that and you can’t adjust. The very definition of the word. Team before yourself and your pride no?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
So let me get this straight. You’re completely fine if Lou has Pageau and Toffoli on the table for a 2nd and Bellows and we don’t execute the trade because some intern for Ottawa leaks to dreger minutes before the deal is complete so Lou walks because he’s upset it leaked and they go to Pittsburgh? Alls good with you?
- Cptmjl


If you get Pageau and Toffoli for a 2nd and Bellows you should be a GM somewhere.😂
Read my previous posts.

Let me add it would be a deal that Lou offered or a GM offered to him and the it’s in a paper or rumored not minutes before let’s keep to un exaggerated HB hyperbole and keep it real.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
Of course I get it. That is pride when you have a way you want to do things and someone changes that and you can’t adjust. The very definition of the word. Team before yourself and your pride no?
- Cptmjl


No because that’s the way it should be done.
The media shouldn’t be use in negotiations or to try and influence a deal by leaking shat out. Just respect or a little honor among thieves.

We will agree to disagree on this one.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
If you get Pageau and Toffoli for a 2nd and Bellows you should be a GM somewhere.😂
Read my previous posts.

Let me add it would be a deal that Lou offered or a GM offered to him and the it’s in a paper or rumored not minutes before let’s keep to un exaggerated HB hyperbole and keep it real.

- nyisles7

Ok change it to fit whatever definition suits your narrative and add whatever pieces you want to make the trade realistic in your eyes and answer the question? You’re ok with Lameriello walking away from the deal because of some intern leaking and those players go to Pittsburgh instead of us because it doesn’t faze Rutherford. You’re cool with that and just tack it up to we’ll it’s Lameriello so it must have been the right thing to do?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:53 PM ET
No because that’s the way it should be done.
The media shouldn’t be use in negotiations or to try and influence a deal by leaking shat out.

- nyisles7

When lameriello was GM of the devils the first time around social media didn’t exist. Not everyone runs their organization like a black hole or vacuum like this team has for the past 15 years. We have enough issues getting talent here let’s chalk up another useless reason to prevent it that doesn’t have any effect on the teams success.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 15 @ 6:54 PM ET
Ok change it to fit whatever definition suits your narrative and add whatever pieces you want to make the trade realistic in your eyes and answer the question? You’re ok with Lameriello walking away from the deal because of some intern leaking and those players go to Pittsburgh instead of us because it doesn’t faze Rutherford. You’re cool with that and just tack it up to we’ll it’s Lameriello so it must have been the right thing to do?
- Cptmjl

I see both sides and I believe it's a rule with lou but again it seems counterintuitive. Imagine being the intern or whoever that leaks it and dealing with that
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:55 PM ET
I see both sides and I believe it's a rule with lou but again it seems counterintuitive. Imagine being the intern or whoever that leaks it and dealing with that
- Upstate_isles

Of course I see both sides of it but ultimately one side is right and one side is wrong. Period. It’s undeniable.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 6:56 PM ET
When lameriello was GM of the devils the first time around social media didn’t exist. Not everyone runs their organization like a black hole or vacuum like this team has for the past 15 years. We have enough issues getting talent here let’s chalk up another useless reason to prevent it that doesn’t have any effect on the teams success.
- Cptmjl


There was always media and rumor mongers out there.
Again we will agree to disagree on this one.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:57 PM ET
There was always media and rumor mongers out there.
Again we will agree to disagree on this one.

- nyisles7

Ok fine there was always media but NEVER social media especially to this degree. Christ there weren’t even cellphones that didn’t have a suitcase attached to them. Answer this question before you drink your geritol, eat your prune, and go to bed;

Ok change it to fit whatever definition suits your narrative and add whatever pieces you want to make the trade realistic in your eyes and answer the question? You’re ok with Lameriello walking away from the deal because of some intern leaking and those players go to Pittsburgh instead of us because it doesn’t faze Rutherford. You’re cool with that and just tack it up to we’ll it’s Lameriello so it must have been the right thing to do?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
I see both sides and I believe it's a rule with lou but again it seems counterintuitive. Imagine being the intern or whoever that leaks it and dealing with that
- Upstate_isles



Grow some balls and pick a side I K
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:02 PM ET
Ok fine there was always media but NEVER social media especially to this degree. Christ there weren’t even cellphones that didn’t have a suitcase attached to them. Answer this question before you drink your geritol, eat your prune, and go to bed;

Ok change it to fit whatever definition suits your narrative and add whatever pieces you want to make the trade realistic in your eyes and answer the question? You’re ok with Lameriello walking away from the deal because of some intern leaking and those players go to Pittsburgh instead of us because it doesn’t faze Rutherford. You’re cool with that and just tack it up to we’ll it’s Lameriello so it must have been the right thing to do?

- Cptmjl


If I read or hear about it before it’s agreed upon, Yes.
These things don’t happen in 1 phone call it’s a process.
Your analogy of a few minutes before is HB hyperbole let’s keep it real.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:05 PM ET
If I read or hear about it before it’s agreed upon, Yes.
These things don’t happen in 1 phone call it’s a process.
Your analogy of a few minutes before is HB hyperbole let’s keep it real.

- nyisles7

I just told you to fit any narrative you like with ultimately the same result. Lou walks away from the that deal because it leaks, Pittsburgh completes the trade because they don’t care they just want to improve the team, and we stay as is. You’re good?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:15 PM ET
I just told you to fit any narrative you like with ultimately the same result. Lou walks away from the that deal because it leaks, Pittsburgh completes the trade because they don’t care they just want to improve the team, and we stay is is. You’re good?
- Cptmjl


Yes because again the deal is between you and me and more than not it will help you not hinder you. What GM wants to do business with a GM that shat leaks out to the media?
On Hockey Buzz it may hurt you but not in the real world holding to your morals.
My opinion of course

If you ever meet him I would ask him flat out. He’s approachable and probably would give you an honest answer.

BTW he doesn’t like GMs with beards either
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:29 PM ET
Yes because again the deal is between you and me and more than not it will help you not hinder you. What GM wants to do business with a GM that shat leaks out to the media?
On Hockey Buzz it may hurt you but not in the real world holding to your morals.
My opinion of course

- nyisles7

If Lameriello walked away from something that’ll improve the team or potentially even finally give us a cup and with it potential respectability we haven’t had in 30 years for those reasons, I’m at that point, not a fan of his anymore. I have a hard time understanding how anyone could disagree but cool if you do. Can’t agree all the time.

Morality has nothing to do with it it’s not like we’re talking about chiefs selling his body for cash here. The teams success is more important to me than him being able to execute a deal the way he wants too. Ultimately I’m a much bigger fan of the NY Islanders than I am of Lou Lameriello.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:30 PM ET
Yes because again the deal is between you and me and more than not it will help you not hinder you. What GM wants to do business with a GM that shat leaks out to the media?
On Hockey Buzz it may hurt you but not in the real world holding to your morals.
My opinion of course

If you ever meet him I would ask him flat out. He’s approachable and probably would give you an honest answer.

BTW he doesn’t like GMs with beards either

- nyisles7

😂

I’ve never met Lameriello. 🤣

If there’s a trade that makes your team better and more competitive for a legit shot at the cup you swallow shat and get it done. Being a stubborn jackass and leaving crap on the table doesn’t win you any awards except with one jackass on hockeybuzz😂
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 7:39 PM ET
If Lameriello walked away from something that’ll improve the team or potentially even finally give us a cup and with it respectability we haven’t had in 30 years for those reasons, I’m at that point, not a fan of his anymore. I have a hard time understanding how anyone could disagree but cool if you do. Morality has nothing to do with it it’s not like we’re talking about chiefs selling his body for cash here. The teams success is more important to me than him being able to execute a deal the way he wants too. Ultimately I’m a much bigger fan of the NY Islanders than I am of Lou Lameriello.
- Cptmjl


Lou doesn’t do anything without the success of the team first so that’s off the table you may feel it’s wrong but that’s how he does business. Like or not.

Now of course if he could get Pageau and Toffoli for a 2nd and whatever you proposed before and it was leaked he probably would pull the trigger right away anyway before some other GM offers more obvi because this is so ridiculous it’s not happening.

But that’s exactly why he doesn’t want to hear about his offers or what’s offered for what in the media.

I think we have exhausted this one to its max. Let’s just agree to disagree on whether Lou’s trade policy is beyond moronic or a good policy.

BTW Chiefs selling his body and morality shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence

JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 15 @ 7:47 PM ET
Fine blog, Ben.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 15 @ 7:49 PM ET
Lou doesn’t do anything without the success of the team first so that’s off the table you may feel it’s wrong but that’s how he does business. Like or not.

Now of course if he could get Pageau and Toffoli for a 2nd and whatever you proposed before and it was leaked he probably would pull the trigger right away anyway before some other GM offers more obvi because this is so ridiculous it’s not happening.

But that’s exactly why he doesn’t want to hear about his offers or what’s offered for what in the media.

I think we have exhausted this one to its max. Let’s just agree to disagree on whether Lou’s trade policy is beyond moronic or a good policy.

BTW Chiefs selling his body and morality shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence


- nyisles7

Well so far that’s impossible to gauge😂
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 8:56 PM ET
Fine blog, Ben.
- JohnScammo



I read it 3x’s already
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 15 @ 8:57 PM ET
Well so far that’s impossible to gauge😂
- Cptmjl


In your mind
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 15 @ 9:24 PM ET
Grow some balls and pick a side I K
- nyisles7

I understand why he doesnt want it leaked but I think it's stupid to blow a deal over it. If it's the isles have interest in so and so and not what's being offered then its moronic not to go ahead. If it's the isles want so and so for a pick prospect and player x then I agree walk away. So stfu jackass
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