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JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 12:21 AM ET
The idea of the future is anything but hilarious! It is of the utmost importance.

So you're willing to sacrifice the future for "a piece or two" that MIGHT get you into the playoffs? The Jets are NOT a Cup contender, even with "a piece" or two. Maybe finish 16th or 17th?

You build for the future, you entertain, and give us fans something to hope for. Start trading away those high draft choices for other teams rejects - or players deemed expendable - and pretty soon you're talking about the "Houston Jets", as fans, maybe like you, will turn on them - and stay away.

I'm appreciative of the Jets management, players, trainers etc. for giving us something to cheer for and entertain us. Are you? What do you like about the Jets?

- grahamzky


The number of people that left after the 2nd didn't look impressed, if you think those fans that doled out a lot of money for that $H!T SHOW against Tampa Bay are gonna keep throwing their money out year after year to watch a mediocre product you're kidding yourself, there needs to be improvement and selling the idea of "hoping for the future" with developed prospects is getting old, fans are rightfully expecting results.

Seriously the crowd didn't look like all that much more then they get for a Moose game after many left in the 2nd intermission. Putting a garbage product on the ice is gonna take this team to Houston more then trading some picks and/or prospects in an attempt to improve the team will.

Doubt anyone here is saying to sell the entire future for rentals but if they can get some good players with term it might be worth considering and others are saying some tweaking around the edges would help somewhat and wouldn't cost all that much to do. Like really after the Little injury if they acquire a half point a game player where would they be right now? Good chance they'd be ahead of Dallas right now and it wouldn't of taken a 1st round pick to get that player. I'd gladly take some other teams expendable players if they're better then some of the rejects this team has been trotting out, notice the nice seasons some of the Jets rejects (Armia, Tanev, Lemieux) are having, are we not allowed to question wtf management is doing letting go of productive players but keeping unproductive players? For the record Armia is the only one of those three I actually liked, the other two I didn't care for as players but they certainly would be better then some of the useless jobbers the Jets are rolling out now and have been for a good while now. Three guys that were other teams "rejects" that were traded this season for essentially a bag of pucks were Fabbri, Namestnikov and Stephenson. Any and all of those guys would've helped the Jets this season but unfortunately they didn't come across the waiver wire so Chevy didn't think it was worth it I guess, never know those 4th or 5th round picks might be decent players for the Jets in 4 to 5 years, can't risk the future like that... Lol

And damn rights it'd be good to make the playoffs even if this team isn't a so called "contender", playoff experience of any kind would go a long way for this young team.

I just don't get why it's blasphemy to question if Chevy is doing all he can to make this team better cause I'm sorry to say but relying on the waiver wire and every single draft pick to develop just isn't getting the job done!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 19 @ 12:56 AM ET
The number of people that left after the 2nd didn't look impressed, if you think those fans that doled out a lot of money for that $H!T SHOW against Tampa Bay are gonna keep throwing their money out year after year to watch a mediocre product you're kidding yourself, there needs to be improvement and selling the idea of "hoping for the future" with developed prospects is getting old, fans are rightfully expecting results.

Seriously the crowd didn't look like all that much more then they get for a Moose game after many left in the 2nd intermission. Putting a garbage product on the ice is gonna take this team to Houston more then trading some picks and/or prospects in an attempt to improve the team will.

Doubt anyone here is saying to sell the entire future for rentals but if they can get some good players with term it might be worth considering and others are saying some tweaking around the edges would help somewhat and wouldn't cost all that much to do. Like really after the Little injury if they acquire a half point a game player where would they be right now? Good chance they'd be ahead of Dallas right now and it wouldn't of taken a 1st round pick to get that player. I'd gladly take some other teams expendable players if they're better then some of the rejects this team has been trotting out, notice the nice seasons some of the Jets rejects (Armia, Tanev, Lemieux) are having, are we not allowed to question wtf management is doing letting go of productive players but keeping unproductive players? For the record Armia is the only one of those three I actually liked, the other two I didn't care for as players but they certainly would be better then some of the useless jobbers the Jets are rolling out now and have been for a good while now. Three guys that were other teams "rejects" that were traded this season for essentially a bag of pucks were Fabbri, Namestnikov and Stephenson. Any and all of those guys would've helped the Jets this season but unfortunately they didn't come across the waiver wire so Chevy didn't think it was worth it I guess, never know those 4th or 5th round picks might be decent players for the Jets in 4 to 5 years, can't risk the future like that... Lol

And damn rights it'd be good to make the playoffs even if this team isn't a so called "contender", playoff experience of any kind would go a long way for this young team.

I just don't get why it's blasphemy to question if Chevy is doing all he can to make this team better cause I'm sorry to say but relying on the waiver wire and every single draft pick to develop just isn't getting the job done!

- JetFuel


Nice to see that another Jets fan that gets it. By the time the 2020 and 2021 first round draft picks start making noise, the year will be 2025. That year Wheeler and Scheifele will both be UFA's. Connor and Ehlers will both have two years left on their deals. Hellebyuck will have one year left. Not really sure about Laine as we don't know what the Jets will be doing with him. Roslovic will be on his third or fourth team and we will all be sitting here and thinking about what the heck just happened over the past five years, but will be hopeful that our 2020 and 2021 first rounders will potentially deliver us something in the future!
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jan 19 @ 1:14 AM ET
Great insight Wesley. It’s clear that Maurice does not see Roslovic as a Center. And sadly his value has eroded so much that I think we would be lucky to get a third round pick for him.
- TheUltimateJet


I like Maurice, but why not give Ras a fighting chance????? He has done nothing but create offense while being responsible in his own zone. I disagree that his value has "eroded", and think many teams would love to have him, including the Jets. But if lowry has another 19 minute game, the jets deserve to lose. Lowry can hit, win faceoffs, and kill penalties, but in the slot he is absolutely useless. Ras is the kind of puck moving centre the Jets need to compliment their star wingers. Do it Maurice!
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 1:32 AM ET
Nice to see that another Jets fan that gets it. By the time the 2020 and 2021 first round draft picks start making noise, the year will be 2025. That year Wheeler and Scheifele will both be UFA's. Connor and Ehlers will both have two years left on their deals. Hellebyuck will have one year left. Not really sure about Laine as we don't know what the Jets will be doing with him. Roslovic will be on his third or fourth team and we will all be sitting here and thinking about what the heck just happened over the past five years, but will be hopeful that our 2020 and 2021 first rounders will potentially deliver us something in the future!
- TheUltimateJet


Oh I get it and Scheifele is in his prime now, can't keep wasting time on every draft pick to possibly pan out. Those three guys I listed were traded for a 4th, 5th, a 4C and they make like $5M combined, that's an entire line and two of those guys are on half a point a game pace right now, if Chevy makes those deals this team is in a way better position right now and in no way would he of mortgaged the future.. Lol.. Plus Fabbri and
Stephenson are recent cup winners, would've been great to bring guys who've won intothe room.

Everyone keeps ranting about the defense and yeah I get it isn't great BUT when they're all healthy and Niku is in the lineup is it really much worse then Vegas' defense that they went to the Cup final with??! Not really imo and at the TDL could maybe add another dman or two if the price isn't too much.

DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jan 19 @ 6:15 AM ET
Cirelli a third liner said someone above. Ouch, best two way forward on the Lightning this season and improving his offensive output year by year. He will be a solid 2nd line C for years to come.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 9:29 AM ET
Cirelli a third liner said someone above. Ouch, best two way forward on the Lightning this season and improving his offensive output year by year. He will be a solid 2nd line C for years to come.
- DutchSenators


Just a homer fan that doesn't know other teams players very well other then maybe their star players.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 19 @ 10:39 AM ET
Just a homer fan that doesn't know other teams players very well other then maybe their star players.
- JetFuel

Homer fans is an understatement. Sometimes I think that True North actually has guys that post on this board to defend the ineptitude that is management and coaching. Especially management where our GM is the least active in the entire league.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 11:20 AM ET
Homer fans is an understatement. Sometimes I think that True North actually has guys that post on this board to defend the ineptitude that is management and coaching. Especially management where our GM is the least active in the entire league.
- TheUltimateJet


Remember this is a fanbase that mostly thinks it's fine to have a 3C and 3rd line that doesn't produce so it should come as no surprise that many dismiss other teams players as 'just 3rd liners. It's just baffling to me how Jets fans have bought into this myth of top 6/bottom 6.

Some of these GM's seem to have working relationships in a way, like how many deals have Chicago and Arizona made with each other in the last few years. Perhaps if Chevy wasn't so inactive he'd have forged a relationship with some of his fellow GM's, a few more deals would be struck and the team would be better off.

Once again, no team is built solely through the draft or in the Jets case the draft and waiver wire.. Lol
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
The best move the team could do is fire Maurice and hire Gallant which most likely won’t happen. Helly can’t steal every game and the players seem confused by the lack of systems and Maurice inability to adapt to game situations. The way the Jets have been playing of late even is they traded one of their top 6 forwards for a top 3/4 d-man they still will be hard pressed to make the playoffs. They also shouldn’t be trading their #1 draft pick as they have to keep it for the future. Buff being ready to play by the trade deadline would give the team options but they still have too many issues for any long term success this season. This is a bust year for the Jets and unfortunately, only a big shakeup could get them out of it. It’s a tough year to be a Jets fan.
- islansjet


Not a chance I'd want Gallant. One good season in Vegas with a bunch of motivated guys does not make him suddenly a great coach. The fact he is now suddenly out of a job speaks more volume on his talent as a coach.

I just don't think most of you anti-Maurice pundits realize just how good a coach you actually have here. Most teams would give their left arm to land Maurice. To add to that most teams would give even more to land Chevy as their GM. Both of them have done a magnificent job this year in keeping us in the hunt. Its not all Hellebuyck, he just doing the job he's been paid to do but doing it well. He has off nights too though as we have seen. Anyone who knows a lot about hockey, or has played or coached has nothing but great thing to say about both Maurice and Chevy and that includes all the well-versed guys on the TSN panels.

Unless we were to land a guy like Trotz , who are few and far between , Maurice is by far our best option right now and you pundits won't realize that until you lose him. I laugh at all the talk on here that he doesn't know how to develop players, or he's getting lucky in development because of injuries to others.

When they let all those guys go such as Petan and Dano, etc exactly how did they all fare on other teams? Every one of them was a bust. Maurice was 100% correct in letting them all go, every one of them and at the right time. It also gave a chance for better young talent in the system to develop like Roslovic and Appleton,( and even Lemieux as trade bait). I mean where would we be with Petan and Dano still on this team ? .....it would have been a huge step backward.

Sure we would have loved to have kept guys like Armia, Tanev, and Chiarot but just couldn't afford it. One could actually argue that Maurice has done such a good job with his draft and develop players that they became unaffordable at contract time. Heck, they basically found Tanev, he wasn't even drafted! Pionk and Heinola for Trouba is becoming very lopsided in our favor even as a straight-up trade, and even more lopsided when you consider the salary differentials . Trouba has been nothing short of terrible in NY in almost every aspect.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
I'd suggest it's the other way around, in regards to Cirelli and Roslovic.
- Wesley Peters


I also agree. Cirelli is 2nd line center material right now on most teams. Roslovic is not, but still has lots more upside coming. I doubt Tampa can afford him next year on anything more than a 1-2 year bridge if that.

Niku with Morrissey tonight. My call was 100% correct that he would move up the lineup quickly. Kinda hard to argue anymore that Maurice doesn't like him because you don't put a player you don't like on top pairing. Niku is here to stay ! It actually may be Morrissey that needs Niku's help right now.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
The number of people that left after the 2nd didn't look impressed, if you think those fans that doled out a lot of money for that $H!T SHOW against Tampa Bay are gonna keep throwing their money out year after year to watch a mediocre product you're kidding yourself, there needs to be improvement and selling the idea of "hoping for the future" with developed prospects is getting old, fans are rightfully expecting results.

Seriously the crowd didn't look like all that much more then they get for a Moose game after many left in the 2nd intermission. Putting a garbage product on the ice is gonna take this team to Houston more then trading some picks and/or prospects in an attempt to improve the team will.

Doubt anyone here is saying to sell the entire future for rentals but if they can get some good players with term it might be worth considering and others are saying some tweaking around the edges would help somewhat and wouldn't cost all that much to do. Like really after the Little injury if they acquire a half point a game player where would they be right now? Good chance they'd be ahead of Dallas right now and it wouldn't of taken a 1st round pick to get that player. I'd gladly take some other teams expendable players if they're better then some of the rejects this team has been trotting out, notice the nice seasons some of the Jets rejects (Armia, Tanev, Lemieux) are having, are we not allowed to question wtf management is doing letting go of productive players but keeping unproductive players? For the record Armia is the only one of those three I actually liked, the other two I didn't care for as players but they certainly would be better then some of the useless jobbers the Jets are rolling out now and have been for a good while now. Three guys that were other teams "rejects" that were traded this season for essentially a bag of pucks were Fabbri, Namestnikov and Stephenson. Any and all of those guys would've helped the Jets this season but unfortunately they didn't come across the waiver wire so Chevy didn't think it was worth it I guess, never know those 4th or 5th round picks might be decent players for the Jets in 4 to 5 years, can't risk the future like that... Lol

And damn rights it'd be good to make the playoffs even if this team isn't a so called "contender", playoff experience of any kind would go a long way for this young team.

I just don't get why it's blasphemy to question if Chevy is doing all he can to make this team better cause I'm sorry to say but relying on the waiver wire and every single draft pick to develop just isn't getting the job done!

- JetFuel


Like you say, fans leaving after the second period. That says it all.

Mortgage the future now so that we might make the playoffs, and in five years when Wheeler and the boys are gone, without youngsters to take their spot, we will be sucking wind - and there mat be talk of re-location.

Who's going to buy the tickets then? I don't want to see the team move, but continue giving us entertainment - don't have to win the Stanley Cup as long as we're competitive.

Two trains of thought here - we obviously don't agree, but I respect your opinion.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 19 @ 11:58 AM ET
Just a homer fan that doesn't know other teams players very well other then maybe their star players.
- JetFuel



Think I might be that homer fan we're talking about - only know star players on other teams. lol The Great 8 - and who else?

That's ok I can live with that accusation.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
This team will never win the cup with Maurice so trading away draft picks to improve this team now is pointless. Under Maurice we won’t win now and now you’ve hurt our chances of winning in the future.

Teams don’t just trade away first rounders because their star players are under contract. If that was case every team in the league could point to the star player and say we have to trade all our future first round picks to try and win now because we have said player under contract.

How has it worked for us in the past? I don’t remember a parade? How did all the moves Columbus made last year help them?
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 12:45 PM ET
Not a chance I'd want Gallant. One good season in Vegas with a bunch of motivated guys does not make him suddenly a great coach. The fact he is now suddenly out of a job speaks more volume on his talent as a coach.

I just don't think most of you anti-Maurice pundits realize just how good a coach you actually have here. Most teams would give their left arm to land Maurice. To add to that most teams would give even more to land Chevy as their GM. Both of them have done a magnificent job this year in keeping us in the hunt. Its not all Hellebuyck, he just doing the job he's been paid to do but doing it well. He has off nights too though as we have seen. Anyone who knows a lot about hockey, or has played or coached has nothing but great thing to say about both Maurice and Chevy and that includes all the well-versed guys on the TSN panels.

Unless we were to land a guy like Trotz , who are few and far between , Maurice is by far our best option right now and you pundits won't realize that until you lose him. I laugh at all the talk on here that he doesn't know how to develop players, or he's getting lucky in development because of injuries to others.

When they let all those guys go such as Petan and Dano, etc exactly how did they all fare on other teams? Every one of them was a bust. Maurice was 100% correct in letting them all go, every one of them and at the right time. It also gave a chance for better young talent in the system to develop like Roslovic and Appleton,( and even Lemieux as trade bait). I mean where would we be with Petan and Dano still on this team ? .....it would have been a huge step backward.

Sure we would have loved to have kept guys like Armia, Tanev, and Chiarot but just couldn't afford it. One could actually argue that Maurice has done such a good job with his draft and develop players that they became unaffordable at contract time. Heck, they basically found Tanev, he wasn't even drafted! Pionk and Heinola for Trouba is becoming very lopsided in our favor even as a straight-up trade, and even more lopsided when you consider the salary differentials . Trouba has been nothing short of terrible in NY in almost every aspect.

- jetsnation


Maurice was out coached by Gallant, he had no answer for what Vegas was doing and he didn't do a thing with his lineup until it was too late.
Same thing in the Blues series and his team didn't show up in the biggest game of the season, game 6 against the Blues was an embarrassing performance, putting Hayes at 4C should of gotten him fired, he's been out coached twice in the playoffs when it really matters and what he does with his lineup now is gonna keep this team from making the playoffs.

I really like Trotz and really respect the guy but last playoffs in games where his team is down by a goal and desperately need to score and there's 6 minutes left in the 3rd and he's still rolling out his 4th line, he's a good coach but he's not perfect either.

Petan and Dano are worse then signing Letestu? lol.. My gawd keeping those guys would've been a step backwards compared to keeping the bottom 6 slugs we did and signing Bourque and Letestu?? You're delusional if you don't think Petan or Dano couldn't do at least the same or better then those two. You also do realize the fact those two sat in the press box or played 6 minutes a night is a big reason why they couldn't catch on anywhere else yeah? Could also be part of the reason Roslovic isn't doing very good this season, it's called stunted development!! If/when Appleton and Harkins amount to very little I guess they'll be busts too!

The TSN panelists are the experts then, these are the same experts that said Babcock and Peters were good coaches, were they experts about those claims??

This team could've kept some of Armia, Tanev or Chiarot, they just would've needed to move on from guys like Perreault and the very overrated Lowry, you're making excuses for a GM making bad decisions.

As for the Trouba trade if he had traded Trouba earlier when he should've the return would've been a lot better and they'd be in better shape now. I'm of the opinion that the Rangers didn't want Pionk and he was a throw in and the Jets lucked out with how good he's been, as for the draft pick that turned into Heinola yeah that's great but this team was a train wreck last season, that Hayes trade never should of happened in the first place. He hung on to Trouba too long till he was a year away from being a UFA which brought his value down to almost nothing, had he been traded when he had more RFA years of team control other teams would've given more for him. He lost the Trouba trade, let's not give him credit for getting lucky, I wasn't a Trouba fan either.

You're making excuses for this coach and GM.

BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Jan 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
I also agree. Cirelli is 2nd line center material right now on most teams. Roslovic is not, but still has lots more upside coming. I doubt Tampa can afford him next year on anything more than a 1-2 year bridge if that.

Niku with Morrissey tonight. My call was 100% correct that he would move up the lineup quickly. Kinda hard to argue anymore that Maurice doesn't like him because you don't put a player you don't like on top pairing. Niku is here to stay ! It actually may be Morrissey that needs Niku's help right now.

- jetsnation


This is a joke right? Poolman, Beaulieu, Dahlstrom are all hurt. He wasn't going to put Pionk with Morrissey and he likes to keep Bitetto and Sbisa together. Tell us how right you are when the Jets are healthy.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 19 @ 3:27 PM ET
Maurice was out coached by Gallant, he had no answer for what Vegas was doing and he didn't do a thing with his lineup until it was too late.
Same thing in the Blues series and his team didn't show up in the biggest game of the season, game 6 against the Blues was an embarrassing performance, putting Hayes at 4C should of gotten him fired, he's been out coached twice in the playoffs when it really matters and what he does with his lineup now is gonna keep this team from making the playoffs.

I really like Trotz and really respect the guy but last playoffs in games where his team is down by a goal and desperately need to score and there's 6 minutes left in the 3rd and he's still rolling out his 4th line, he's a good coach but he's not perfect either.

Petan and Dano are worse then signing Letestu? lol.. My gawd keeping those guys would've been a step backwards compared to keeping the bottom 6 slugs we did and signing Bourque and Letestu?? You're delusional if you don't think Petan or Dano couldn't do at least the same or better then those two. You also do realize the fact those two sat in the press box or played 6 minutes a night is a big reason why they couldn't catch on anywhere else yeah? Could also be part of the reason Roslovic isn't doing very good this season, it's called stunted development!! If/when Appleton and Harkins amount to very little I guess they'll be busts too!

The TSN panelists are the experts then, these are the same experts that said Babcock and Peters were good coaches, were they experts about those claims??

This team could've kept some of Armia, Tanev or Chiarot, they just would've needed to move on from guys like Perreault and the very overrated Lowry, you're making excuses for a GM making bad decisions.

As for the Trouba trade if he had traded Trouba earlier when he should've the return would've been a lot better and they'd be in better shape now. I'm of the opinion that the Rangers didn't want Pionk and he was a throw in and the Jets lucked out with how good he's been, as for the draft pick that turned into Heinola yeah that's great but this team was a train wreck last season, that Hayes trade never should of happened in the first place. He hung on to Trouba too long till he was a year away from being a UFA which brought his value down to almost nothing, had he been traded when he had more RFA years of team control other teams would've given more for him. He lost the Trouba trade, let's not give him credit for getting lucky, I wasn't a Trouba fan either.

You're making excuses for this coach and GM.

- JetFuel


Not singling you out but I find it funny how so many in here want trades but then I keep reading how we should have kept frolic and armia. It’s really quite funny. It’s like people in here are now just complaining to complain and no matter what we do or who they fire or who they trade it will absolutely be wrong and ridiculed
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 19 @ 3:29 PM ET
Not a chance I'd want Gallant. One good season in Vegas with a bunch of motivated guys does not make him suddenly a great coach. The fact he is now suddenly out of a job speaks more volume on his talent as a coach.

I just don't think most of you anti-Maurice pundits realize just how good a coach you actually have here. Most teams would give their left arm to land Maurice. To add to that most teams would give even more to land Chevy as their GM. Both of them have done a magnificent job this year in keeping us in the hunt. Its not all Hellebuyck, he just doing the job he's been paid to do but doing it well. He has off nights too though as we have seen. Anyone who knows a lot about hockey, or has played or coached has nothing but great thing to say about both Maurice and Chevy and that includes all the well-versed guys on the TSN panels.

Unless we were to land a guy like Trotz , who are few and far between , Maurice is by far our best option right now and you pundits won't realize that until you lose him. I laugh at all the talk on here that he doesn't know how to develop players, or he's getting lucky in development because of injuries to others.

When they let all those guys go such as Petan and Dano, etc exactly how did they all fare on other teams? Every one of them was a bust. Maurice was 100% correct in letting them all go, every one of them and at the right time. It also gave a chance for better young talent in the system to develop like Roslovic and Appleton,( and even Lemieux as trade bait). I mean where would we be with Petan and Dano still on this team ? .....it would have been a huge step backward.

Sure we would have loved to have kept guys like Armia, Tanev, and Chiarot but just couldn't afford it. One could actually argue that Maurice has done such a good job with his draft and develop players that they became unaffordable at contract time. Heck, they basically found Tanev, he wasn't even drafted! Pionk and Heinola for Trouba is becoming very lopsided in our favor even as a straight-up trade, and even more lopsided when you consider the salary differentials . Trouba has been nothing short of terrible in NY in almost every aspect.

- jetsnation


Maurice has had nothing to do with where we are. Did you not think we would be right where we are with the forwards we have and Helle? What exactly has Maurice done? Seriously a five year old good coach this team to the exact spot we are in
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jan 19 @ 3:32 PM ET
I think this fan base needs a week off, me included. Lol
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 19 @ 3:35 PM ET
Maurice was out coached by Gallant, he had no answer for what Vegas was doing and he didn't do a thing with his lineup until it was too late.
Same thing in the Blues series and his team didn't show up in the biggest game of the season, game 6 against the Blues was an embarrassing performance, putting Hayes at 4C should of gotten him fired, he's been out coached twice in the playoffs when it really matters and what he does with his lineup now is gonna keep this team from making the playoffs.

I really like Trotz and really respect the guy but last playoffs in games where his team is down by a goal and desperately need to score and there's 6 minutes left in the 3rd and he's still rolling out his 4th line, he's a good coach but he's not perfect either.

Petan and Dano are worse then signing Letestu? lol.. My gawd keeping those guys would've been a step backwards compared to keeping the bottom 6 slugs we did and signing Bourque and Letestu?? You're delusional if you don't think Petan or Dano couldn't do at least the same or better then those two. You also do realize the fact those two sat in the press box or played 6 minutes a night is a big reason why they couldn't catch on anywhere else yeah? Could also be part of the reason Roslovic isn't doing very good this season, it's called stunted development!! If/when Appleton and Harkins amount to very little I guess they'll be busts too!

The TSN panelists are the experts then, these are the same experts that said Babcock and Peters were good coaches, were they experts about those claims??

This team could've kept some of Armia, Tanev or Chiarot, they just would've needed to move on from guys like Perreault and the very overrated Lowry, you're making excuses for a GM making bad decisions.

As for the Trouba trade if he had traded Trouba earlier when he should've the return would've been a lot better and they'd be in better shape now. I'm of the opinion that the Rangers didn't want Pionk and he was a throw in and the Jets lucked out with how good he's been, as for the draft pick that turned into Heinola yeah that's great but this team was a train wreck last season, that Hayes trade never should of happened in the first place. He hung on to Trouba too long till he was a year away from being a UFA which brought his value down to almost nothing, had he been traded when he had more RFA years of team control other teams would've given more for him. He lost the Trouba trade, let's not give him credit for getting lucky, I wasn't a Trouba fan either.

You're making excuses for this coach and GM.

- JetFuel


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TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jan 19 @ 3:37 PM ET
I think this fan base needs a week off, me included. Lol
- Ross77

Hey that’s not a bad idea! It would be like we are all Chevy, as it appears that he is constantly off as well.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jan 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
My opinion from the start of the year has been that for Maurice's tenure this season is similar to 2 years ago when it was a 'show me why you should be the coach' year. That season was exceptional and Maurice earned his paycheck.

This season has been a mixed bag. With a decimated defense the Jets have hung in the playoff hunt and this is commendable - however - they haven't looked like a contender.

on the positive: Young players have continued their development including Connor, Laine, Roslovic, Pionk and Copp. Good coaches always have good goaltending and in my opinion good coaches both contribute to the goalie's success and benefit from the 'sins' goaltending can cover. Maurice has also nursed some good minutes from veterans whose best attribute is the competitiveness and commitment they bring shift after shift.

the negative: they have been so inconsistent and have allowed too many first period goals (are they not ready to play)? Home game issues have gone on long enough and coaches have had time to figure it out but failed. The play vs Tampa was inexcusable given the opportunity to test themselves against a good team that was at a disadvantage due to scheduling - yet Tampa flipped the script.

I don't know and won't pretend to know all that is going on behind the scenes but Maurice doesn't deserve to have his contract renewed with this mixed bag of results and inconsistent achievement.

Put me down as a seller. Maybe its Wheeler who needs to go and Sheif or Copp take a bigger role - would he waive his NMC for a contender? Perreault is not part of the future for this team. I like Lowry in a 4th line role and PK as well as see him as a glue guy that is tough to replace.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 4:16 PM ET
Not singling you out but I find it funny how so many in here want trades but then I keep reading how we should have kept frolic and armia. It’s really quite funny. It’s like people in here are now just complaining to complain and no matter what we do or who they fire or who they trade it will absolutely be wrong and ridiculed
- Ross77


What you don't think either of Armia or Frolik are good players? Frolik was very likely never staying anyway but this team misses Armia, he's a very good player, best 3rd line winger in the league, are 3rd line would maybe being producing like a 3rd line should if he was still on it though it's pretty tough for anyone to produce when they're stuck with Lowry. Adam Lowry was the one who should've been moved for cap space, not Armia.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jan 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Not singling you out but I find it funny how so many in here want trades but then I keep reading how we should have kept frolic and armia. It’s really quite funny. It’s like people in here are now just complaining to complain and no matter what we do or who they fire or who they trade it will absolutely be wrong and ridiculed
- Ross77


I agree with this statement Ross. I'll also add that Jets are playing right now with an injury list that is about $16 MM of cap space. Once the Buff thing is settled one way or the other, as we hit the trade deadline you can buy an awful lot of talent for that much money . Let's see what this team looks like after Feb 24th before being a critic.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 6:40 PM ET
Like you say, fans leaving after the second period. That says it all.

Mortgage the future now so that we might make the playoffs, and in five years when Wheeler and the boys are gone, without youngsters to take their spot, we will be sucking wind - and there mat be talk of re-location.

Who's going to buy the tickets then? I don't want to see the team move, but continue giving us entertainment - don't have to win the Stanley Cup as long as we're competitive.

Two trains of thought here - we obviously don't agree, but I respect your opinion.

- grahamzky


Did you even read my comment?

I said nothing about trading 1sts or A-prospects for rentals, that would be the definition of mortgaging the future, I didn't like the rental trades the Jets made last season and the season before but if they would've been for RFA'S or guys with term I probably would've thought they were okay. What I said was there were some minor trades this season so far and the guys who changed teams weren't traded for much and let's get real here if you think trading 4th and 5th round picks is mortgaging the future then I don't know what to say, the percentage chance of a 4th round or later pick ever playing more then 100 games isn't very good, cashing in one of those for help now would be worth it.

Like I said nothing is going to drive fans away more then icing a poopty product that isn't entertaining, Fridays game wasn't entertaining, better players and playoff hockey is entertaining.

No team is built solely through the draft or waiver wire.



JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
This team will never win the cup with Maurice so trading away draft picks to improve this team now is pointless. Under Maurice we won’t win now and now you’ve hurt our chances of winning in the future.

Teams don’t just trade away first rounders because their star players are under contract. If that was case every team in the league could point to the star player and say we have to trade all our future first round picks to try and win now because we have said player under contract.

How has it worked for us in the past? I don’t remember a parade? How did all the moves Columbus made last year help them?

- Ross77


Show me a cup winner who was built solely through the draft.

Chevy needs to identify the dead weight on this team and trade away Maurice's favorites that he plays too much.

So because Columbus did win the cup after their TDL trades no teams should make trades ever? lol

Wasting guys prime years cause we're worried we might miss out on a 5th round "diamond in the rough" draft pick would be really really dumb.
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