but a winger that has 17 points in his last 17 NHL games


stinks


ship them both out for another elie
- homiedclown

Wingers become available a lot more frequently then Centers do. I would move Mitts or Sam for a high end 2C if that’s what it took.

botts holds on to everything as tight as an anaconda holds it's prey
- homiedclown

IMO, IF Trocheck is truly available and Botts isn't all over that to make it happen, it would be the final straw. Of course, it is possible that we may never know, but if it came out he wasn't actively in on serious discussions it is a serious dereliction of duties.

Risto or Montour + Larssons.

Wingers become available a lot more frequently then Centers do. I would move Mitts or Sam for a high end 2C if that’s what it took.
- Pegullaville

you would move sam for a 6 pack

reinhart 48 points this season

strome 49
gaudreau 49
tkachuk 48
hoffman 46
hall 46
ehlers 45
nylander 51
laine 53
ror 51
kopitar 51


etc

reinhart 48 points this season

strome 49
gaudreau 49
tkachuk 48
hoffman 46
hall 46
ehlers 45
nylander 51
laine 53
ror 51
kopitar 51


etc
- homiedclown

Top 6 wingers change teams very frequently. Centers not so much. Sam has proven to be a top 6 winger, he’ll hit 70 points playing with a Center on pace for 100. So would every other winger you just listed. How many 2C’s are available that can drive play on their own ?

Top 6 wingers change teams very frequently. Centers not so much. Sam has proven to be a top 6 winger, he’ll hit 70 points playing with a Center on pace for 100. So would every other winger you just listed. How many 2C’s are available that can drive play on their own ?
- Pegullaville

Zero

These young guys are all highly skilled, some more than others yes. Skating becomes paramount, and is something that can improve given the drive to do so. Strength can be improved tremendously, given the drive to do so.

I'd say the only real issue for Mitts is his drive to excel and become the best version of himself...which translates to compete level on the ice.
I'm not sure he has what is necessary to become a core player. This offseason will tell all that us needed.

We'll see.
- IonSabres

He needs to go see Gary Roberts

Top 6 wingers change teams very frequently. Centers not so much. Sam has proven to be a top 6 winger, he’ll hit 70 points playing with a Center on pace for 100. So would every other winger you just listed. How many 2C’s are available that can drive play on their own ?
- Pegullaville

over the last 170 or so games

skunk has proven to be a middle of the pack first line winger, not a top 6 winger

148 points in last 175 games

probably 10 to 12 wingers in the entire nhl with more points
it's time to say he is who he is

Zero
- Buff36

Pretty much, in most cases they need to be drafted. However if one were to become available I wouldn’t hesitate to move Sam for one.

He needs to go see Gary Roberts
- Buff36

worked great for cody and mancari

Pretty much, in most cases they need to be drafted. However if one were to become available I wouldn’t hesitate to move Sam for one.
- Pegullaville

you drafted casey and cozens to be your second line center, not wingers

expect a vet on the cheap for third line center, nothing more this offseason

worked great for cody and mancari
- homiedclown

Mitts has got the Hockey IQ, just needs the conditioning part, and Robert's School is supposed to be 1 of the best for that

over the last 170 or so games

skunk has proven to be a middle of the pack first line winger, not a top 6 winger

148 points in last 175 games

probably 10 to 12 wingers in the entire nhl with more points
it's time to say he is who he is
- homiedclown

Rhino is a good Hockey Player, I still can't grasp why he hasn't been tried on the 2nd line to see if he could help Skinner.

Mitts has got the Hockey IQ, just needs the conditioning part, and Robert's School is supposed to be 1 of the best for that
- Buff36

I heard he lacks effort in rochester


you can't flip effort on and off like a light switch

either they have it or they don't

Rhino is a good Hockey Player, I still can't grasp why he hasn't been tried on the 2nd line to see if he could help Skinner.
- Buff36

based on what we have seen from botts, and soccer man


there is zero chance skunk plays center under this duo

the skinner issue is 2 fold
coach plays him with crap and demoted him on pp

I think they should call up asplund, flank him with skinner and reinhart for 10 games

put vesey or sheary with olofsson and jack


maybe when eichel gets 4 or 5 points in 10 games with them, the skunk haters will realize what they have with reinhart

reinhart 48 points this season

strome 49
gaudreau 49
tkachuk 48
hoffman 46
hall 46
ehlers 45
nylander 51
laine 53
ror 51
kopitar 51


etc
- homiedclown

But, he plays on Jack's line...he is athe Welfare Winger

But, he plays on Jack's line...he is athe Welfare Winger
- IonSabres

over the last 170 or so games

skunk has proven to be a middle of the pack first line winger, not a top 6 winger

148 points in last 175 games

probably 10 to 12 wingers in the entire nhl with more points
it's time to say he is who he is
- homiedclown

Agreed.

My ONLY beef with Sam, which can be said for 22 of 23 rostered players on the team ... I wish he was more physical.

Agreed.

My ONLY beef with Sam, which can be said for 22 of 23 rostered players on the team ... I wish he was more physical.
- IonSabres

when did they call elie up?

based on what we have seen from botts, and soccer man


there is zero chance skunk plays center under this duo

the skinner issue is 2 fold
coach plays him with crap and demoted him on pp

I think they should call up asplund, flank him with skinner and reinhart for 10 games

put vesey or sheary with olofsson and jack


maybe when eichel gets 4 or 5 points in 10 games with them, the skunk haters will realize what they have with reinhart
- homiedclown

I don't need him to play Center, good hockey player can drive lines from any forward position, he is a good passer, Skinner needs that.

But, he plays on Jack's line...he is athe Welfare Winger
- IonSabres

Sure as hell helps playing on Jack's wing, but he does help Jack too.

Pretty much, in most cases they need to be drafted. However if one were to become available I wouldn’t hesitate to move Sam for one.
- Pegullaville

Bad move.

When the team has redundancy at 2RhD and 3RhD, along with some capable throw ins, and Picks, dealing a 70pt RW for a 65pt C is akin to a dog chasing its' tail.
Piss poor asset management IMO.

If they need help replacing points, then I'd move Johansson 1st in a package.
Proven playoff performer.

There's only a couple players that are untouchable on this team, everybody else in the right package should be used to improve this team.

Sure as hell helps playing on Jack's wing, but he does help Jack too.
- Buff36

I don't think anyone would argue that Sam doesn't benefit from playing with Jack.
Many refuse to acknowledge Sam's play helps Jack as well.

Glad you see it.

Bad move.

When the team has redundancy at 2RhD and 3RhD, along with some capable throw ins, and Picks, dealing a 70pt RW for a 65pt C is akin to a dog chasing its' tail.
Piss poor asset management IMO.

If they need help replacing points, then I'd move Johansson 1st in a package.
Proven playoff performer.
- IonSabres

Is there something wrong with dealing the abundance of defenceman for wingers afterwords which is statistically proven to be more likely ?