Ogilthorpe2
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I am taking the top 10 pick. The chance of finding a difference maker are better at the top of the draft. - Elbows15
My preference would be that they never Draft another Russian period, at least not in the top half of the draft.
Plus goalies are weird. Because they take longer on average to develop, you’re just as likely to find a good one later in draft as you are early. |
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Theo Fox
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Well I am no Price fan by any means ,but he has won some hardware Williams Jennings Trophy (shared with the great Cory Crawford ) Vezina Ted Lindsay Hart Olympic Gold not a bad list, no Cup and that The big one !! .
But really most GM say build from the net out ,and the HAWKS have been doing that with their core of young impressive defenseman .Now they have a solid big Center .Why not take a shot at the best young goalie to come along in awhile at 9th pick If he is still available .Good young Goalies are coming up faster as it is becoming a young mans league .
I hardly call it a waste . Goaltending is the biggest +/- on any team .. - oldduffman
If the Hawks can gain a second 1st rounder, I would think about Askarov if he's the best player available in the teens or 20s range. Not sure, though, if I invest in a goalie in the 1st round.
I'm similar to Elbow and Ogi in that I'd still be hesitant to take a goalie so early in the draft. I would stay the course with the goalies in the system and perhaps take a flyer on a goalie in a later round.
Instead, if a later 1st rounder could be had, I would consider a D prospect like Sanderson, Schneider, or Barron or F prospect like Holloway, Zary, or Mercer. Whoever is BPA at that spot. |
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LAHawk
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My preference would be that they never Draft another Russian period, at least not in the top half of the draft.
Plus goalies are weird. Because they take longer on average to develop, you’re just as likely to find a good one later in draft as you are early. - Ogilthorpe2
For every Fleury, I see Barasso, DiPietro, Lehtonen and Waite. I wouldn't waste a #1 on a goalie.
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If the Hawks can gain a second 1st rounder, I would think about Askarov if he's the best player available in the teens or 20s range. Not sure, though, if I invest in a goalie in the 1st round.
I'm similar to Elbow and Ogi in that I'd still be hesitant to take a goalie so early in the draft. I would stay the course with the goalies in the system and perhaps take a flyer on a goalie in a later round.
Instead, if a later 1st rounder could be had, I would consider a D prospect like Sanderson, Schneider, or Barron or F prospect like Holloway, Zary, or Mercer. Whoever is BPA at that spot. - AEL_Fox
I did not for a minute think it would be a poplar pick, being a goalie and a Russian on top. Sometimes to win big you have to take a chance ,following the pack mentality will most likely lead to being nothing more then a follower . It high risk high reward with this kid .Their are some nice picks in the bottom of the top 20 ,but none with the upside of this kid .Roll the dice like a winner ,what the worst that can happen ,we end up with a Barker ,maybe we will get a Bolland in the 2nd . |
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kmw4631
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Location: CHICAGO Joined: 02.27.2015
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Think about all the teams that gave up picks only to have the season cancelled 3 week later. glad we got back a 2nd and 3rd. for GUS and Lehner. Maybe you package those and go up for a goalie. the 1st I do not take a goalie. |
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LAHawk
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I did not for a minute think it would be a poplar pick, being a goalie and a Russian on top. Sometimes to win big you have to take a chance ,following the pack mentality will most likely lead to being nothing more then a follower . It high risk high reward with this kid .Their are some nice picks in the bottom of the top 20 ,but none with the upside of this kid .Roll the dice like a winner ,what the worst that can happen ,we end up with a Barker ,maybe we will get a Bolland in the 2nd . - oldduffman
I would rather see what the Rangers would want for UNDRAFTED Georgiev. |
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bhawks2241
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 09.17.2013
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If the Hawks can gain a second 1st rounder, I would think about Askarov if he's the best player available in the teens or 20s range. Not sure, though, if I invest in a goalie in the 1st round.
I'm similar to Elbow and Ogi in that I'd still be hesitant to take a goalie so early in the draft. I would stay the course with the goalies in the system and perhaps take a flyer on a goalie in a later round.
Instead, if a later 1st rounder could be had, I would consider a D prospect like Sanderson, Schneider, or Barron or F prospect like Holloway, Zary, or Mercer. Whoever is BPA at that spot. - AEL_Fox
I think the Hawks have to keep their pick if it is top 10. They need another young difference maker at forward. The top of this draft is stacked. Who knows who could fall to 9.
The goal is not to have another top 10 pick for next 5-6 years. Use it for top end talent now. |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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I am taking the top 10 pick. The chance of finding a difference maker are better at the top of the draft. - Elbows15
It is a bigger gamble to find a difference maker or top six forward after the first tier of players in the first round even in good drafts. Good players after the Blackhawks current first round pick - sure- but what really is going to make us better. Some prospects might become descent productive players and you can choose the style game for whatever particular objective you have for shaping your roster
But with the 9th - 11th you should keep it and take a higher ceiling top 6 not a descent maybe top six. Toews and Kane are moving along in years played although both probably have at least two strong
seasons to record in their dossier. In fact I bet Kane could put up conquerable numbers from this season even another four/five years
You know what would help him accomplish such a feat. A very deep skilled blueline corps and another top forward beside Dach. Not some oh attractive nice talented forward later in round one. Do not move down in this draft; talent still good #9 - 11. And if you wanted Cozens, how does Holloway or Sanderson look if not Lunden. |
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I would rather see what the Rangers would want for UNDRAFTED Georgiev. - LAHawk
That not a bad idea . As long as it not our top pick . |
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jhawk59
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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I am no draft expert and I can understand the argument to choose the Russian netminder. The state or shape of our goaltending next few years is maybe average to unknown. No one feels like we are looking really good though in goal, eh? No prognosticator either to sign a top f/a goaltender.
That being said, you must really be in love with a goaltender to take one at #10. Maybe you do at #15 but at the #8 -12 slot you hope there remains some other top position player. I personally like more S Knight or if it were possible to trade for the NYI Russian netminder whom some of us were kicking the tires on recently
Truth be told I am hesitant in drafting Russian players especially goaltenders. You just do not have as comfortable a feel for them.
With the two in play in this conversation, the NYI guy has gained enough development and looks ready for the NHL.
Whereas Askinov is an opposite hand and needs to play a lot to develop. Probably in Russia and not sharing the net in Rockford. If he is that good to go mid first round, you are developing him and I would guess the Chicago way is more a hands on AHL tutelage than playing on the cold tundra in Russia.
Just food for thought if you may happen to agree with any of my thoughts |
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So it looks like the White Sox might be able to begin their run to the World Series as early as next month... - SimpleJack
In Arizona? Right, thats what i heard |
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RickJ
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Location: Burlington, ON Joined: 01.12.2010
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My preference would be that they never Draft another Russian period, at least not in the top half of the draft.
Plus goalies are weird. Because they take longer on average to develop, you’re just as likely to find a good one later in draft as you are early. - Ogilthorpe2
Racist but logical.
No team can only have one Russian on the team, they need interpreters.
Let them play in the KHL. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Well I am no Price fan by any means ,but he has won some hardware Williams Jennings Trophy (shared with the great Cory Crawford ) Vezina Ted Lindsay Hart Olympic Gold not a bad list, no Cup and that The big one !! .
But really most GM say build from the net out ,and the HAWKS have been doing that with their core of young impressive defenseman .Now they have a solid big Center .Why not take a shot at the best young goalie to come along in awhile at 9th pick If he is still available .Good young Goalies are coming up faster as it is becoming a young mans league .
I hardly call it a waste . Goaltending is the biggest +/- on any team .. - oldduffman
They still need more impact players up front. That is why. Goalies come from everywhere. Wasting a 1st RD pick on a guy you won't see for 5 years is a waste. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Racist but logical.
No team can only have one Russian on the team, they need interpreters.
Let them play in the KHL. - RickJ
The Hawks have drafted 1 Russian worth a damn. Kravchuk. And he wasn't even a real Russian.
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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If the Hawks can gain a second 1st rounder, I would think about Askarov if he's the best player available in the teens or 20s range. Not sure, though, if I invest in a goalie in the 1st round.
I'm similar to Elbow and Ogi in that I'd still be hesitant to take a goalie so early in the draft. I would stay the course with the goalies in the system and perhaps take a flyer on a goalie in a later round.
Instead, if a later 1st rounder could be had, I would consider a D prospect like Sanderson, Schneider, or Barron or F prospect like Holloway, Zary, or Mercer. Whoever is BPA at that spot. - AEL_Fox
Think most of the guys you mentioned with be gone in the top 15 of the draft.
I would be happy with Lundell, Quinn or Holloway as of now. Provided guys like Holtz, Raymond or Rossi don't fall. Drysdale would be okay, too. |
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Ye of little faith - I've already informed you the Hawks will win the lottery and select Lafreniere with the #1 OA, and within 2 years the Lafreniere-Dach-Kane line will be the toast of the league. |
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They still need more impact players up front. That is why. Goalies come from everywhere. Wasting a 1st RD pick on a guy you won't see for 5 years is a waste. - Elbows15
Where are you getting 5 years from ,Hart was up in a year . |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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Where are you getting 5 years from ,Hart was up in a year . - oldduffman
Think he was factoring in the Russian quotient. |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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The Hawks have drafted 1 Russian worth a damn. Kravchuk. And he wasn't even a real Russian. - Elbows15
Lithuanian I believe. Playing for Red Army? |
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SimpleJack
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Location: Chicago , IL Joined: 05.23.2013
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In Arizona? Right, thats what i heard - BetweenTheDots
Yeah and I’d assume they’d have to be all night games cuz might be too hot during the day in 100+ degrees. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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My preference would be that they never Draft another Russian period, at least not in the top half of the draft.
Plus goalies are weird. Because they take longer on average to develop, you’re just as likely to find a good one later in draft as you are early. - Ogilthorpe2
Ok, Don. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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I would rather see what the Rangers would want for UNDRAFTED Georgiev. - LAHawk
The DRAFTED Strome. |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Where are you getting 5 years from ,Hart was up in a year . - oldduffman
Took Hart 2 and 1/2 seasons after being drafted to make his NHL debut.
It would probably be a couple of seasons before he even comes over. He is going to need at least one full season to adjust to NA ice.
That is 3 years At best. Plus you are handing the reins to a 21 year old? Doubtful. Yeah, it happens but it is very rare.
Hard pass.
Goalies can be found everywhere. Hawks have more pressing needs. |
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SimpleJack
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Location: Chicago , IL Joined: 05.23.2013
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Any fans of Better Call Saul here on HB? Just curious... |
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Elbows15
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Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL Joined: 08.04.2013
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Lithuanian I believe. Playing for Red Army? - HawkintheD
Says he from Ufa, Russia. Which is closer to the Stans than anything else. |
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