I love Norm but I’m not sure he’d be right for this. Play by play might be fun. Kinda of like Foster Hewitt doing Ruskies. He’d have these great pauses and delays as the play was unfolding. Maybe put him in a booth with Jennerette or however you spell his name. That would be good.
- Canada Cup

Ok - I think it could work, but depending on the presenter.
I am assuming here that Norm can talk hockey quite well (He likes sports, and surely knows hockey).

But if not - who could be good subs for McClean? He's even more done than Cherry in my opinion.

There is a huge mental divide between East and West in Toronto - and the hilarious thing is most people don't realize it, even though they are gripped by it.

We used to live in the Annex, yet no way in hell I would ever go a block past Bathurst (and only to go to Bill Bolton Arena). It was like I was living on the edge of Toronto - could only go east from there.
- Atomic Wedgie

Until I started playing ball hockey near Ossington, I'd never gone past Bathurst for any reason other than to visit friends at their homes, go to Ontario Place, or go to the Airport.

Long story short, we're moving to Scarborough baby!

Interesting article in the National Post:

https://nationalpost.com/...b3-4e00-a6bd-b464e9e5d97f

It's kinda similar to the debate going on in women's hockey.

Everyone thinks that these players deserve more money, but nobody seems to have a workable suggestion as to where the money should come from.

I'm always puzzled by sports like bobsled and luge, that have a world circuit. How the frank do they have enough people paying money to watch this sport? Why the frank would I sponsor a bobsled team, outside of an Olympic competition?

I mean, I get the skiing world cup - ski manufacturers can use it to promote their gear. But franking bobsled?

Interesting article in the National Post:

https://nationalpost.com/...b3-4e00-a6bd-b464e9e5d97f

It's kinda similar to the debate going on in women's hockey.

Everyone thinks that these players deserve more money, but nobody seems to have a workable suggestion as to where the money should come from.

I'm always puzzled by sports like bobsled and luge, that have a world circuit. How the frank do they have enough people paying money to watch this sport? Why the frank would I sponsor a bobsled team, outside of an Olympic competition?

I mean, I get the skiing world cup - ski manufacturers can use it to promote their gear. But franking bobsled?
- Atomic Wedgie

I know I'll probably get some flak for this...

But isn't this the kind of risk that you knowingly take when you decide that you'd like to make a living by playing a game?

Interesting article in the National Post:

https://nationalpost.com/...b3-4e00-a6bd-b464e9e5d97f

It's kinda similar to the debate going on in women's hockey.

Everyone thinks that these players deserve more money, but nobody seems to have a workable suggestion as to where the money should come from.

I'm always puzzled by sports like bobsled and luge, that have a world circuit. How the frank do they have enough people paying money to watch this sport? Why the frank would I sponsor a bobsled team, outside of an Olympic competition?

I mean, I get the skiing world cup - ski manufacturers can use it to promote their gear. But franking bobsled?
- Atomic Wedgie

good place to promote guns, poison, guillotine....

Interesting article in the National Post:

https://nationalpost.com/...b3-4e00-a6bd-b464e9e5d97f

It's kinda similar to the debate going on in women's hockey.

Everyone thinks that these players deserve more money, but nobody seems to have a workable suggestion as to where the money should come from.

I'm always puzzled by sports like bobsled and luge, that have a world circuit. How the frank do they have enough people paying money to watch this sport? Why the frank would I sponsor a bobsled team, outside of an Olympic competition?

I mean, I get the skiing world cup - ski manufacturers can use it to promote their gear. But franking bobsled?
- Atomic Wedgie

Count me out.
People really only want to see the top20 - top50 in tennis.
Nobody cares (or should care) about Georgia’s Sofia Shapatava, the world’s 375th ranked women’s singles player - and in particular not in the context of a 'Coronavirus-victim'.
Personally I feel more for people that have to hold 3 jobs in order to feed their kids.

Until I started playing ball hockey near Ossington, I'd never gone past Bathurst for any reason other than to visit friends at their homes, go to Ontario Place, or go to the Airport.

Long story short, we're moving to Scarborough baby!
- TheMussel

When I lived in Toronto was in a pretty tight area. Bathurst, Parliament, Major (could smell everyone pissing at closing time at the Brunswick, Clinton and then bought a place just off Roncesvalles.

You might have to delete your account. Kidding. Nice spot?

When I lived in Toronto was in a pretty tight area. Bathurst, Parliament, Major (could smell everyone pissing at closing time at the Brunswick, Clinton and then bought a place just off Roncesvalles.

You might have to delete your account. Kidding. Nice spot?
- Canada Cup

Detached house within city limits, 45 minute public transit commute to downtown, good enough for me!

Interesting article in the National Post:

https://nationalpost.com/...b3-4e00-a6bd-b464e9e5d97f

It's kinda similar to the debate going on in women's hockey.

Everyone thinks that these players deserve more money, but nobody seems to have a workable suggestion as to where the money should come from.

I'm always puzzled by sports like bobsled and luge, that have a world circuit. How the frank do they have enough people paying money to watch this sport? Why the frank would I sponsor a bobsled team, outside of an Olympic competition?

I mean, I get the skiing world cup - ski manufacturers can use it to promote their gear. But franking bobsled?
- Atomic Wedgie

Cause guys in luge tights are sexy

I know I'll probably get some flak for this...

But isn't this the kind of risk that you knowingly take when you decide that you'd like to make a living by playing a game?
- TheMussel

So I guess if you apply a 1970s lens to this, where athletes were exploited (particularly the "amateur" ones - oh boy, don't get me started), then yeah, I could get behind the idea that more money needs to go to the athletes.

But I'm wildly guessing that in this day and age, the ATP and WTA executives at the top aren't rolling in money while the athletes aren't getting their fair cut.

So it seems to me that if the players really want to support the lower tiers, the money needs to come from reduced prize money.

The entire professional sports world would come grinding to a halt of governments stopped allowing tickets to be written off as business expenses, which quite frankly is long overdue.

So I guess if you apply a 1970s lens to this, where athletes were exploited (particularly the "amateur" ones - oh boy, don't get me started), then yeah, I could get behind the idea that more money needs to go to the athletes.

But I'm wildly guessing that in this day and age, the ATP and WTA executives at the top aren't rolling in money while the athletes aren't getting their fair cut.

So it seems to me that if the players really want to support the lower tiers, the money needs to come from reduced prize money.

The entire professional sports world would come grinding to a halt of governments stopped allowing tickets to be written off as business expenses, which quite frankly is long overdue.
- Atomic Wedgie

Exactly.
downside though - this almost starts looking as a 'no winners, let's give a participation ribbon to all! culture..
professional sports competitions are based on a 'winner takes it all' basis and should be 'cut-throat' to some extent.
If players want to set up a solidarity fund, they can always do this.
I haven't heard Federer and Nadal speaking about how this is such a big issue though...

Exactly.
downside though - this almost starts looking as a 'no winners, let's give a participation ribbon to all! culture..
professional sports competitions are based on a 'winner takes it all' basis and should be 'cut-throat' to some extent.
If players want to set up a solidarity fund, they can always do this.
I haven't heard Federer and Nadal speaking about how this is such a big issue though...
- MaximusAurelius

Another way to look at it is that it makes sports about winning, not winning money

Exactly.
downside though - this almost starts looking as a 'no winners, let's give a participation ribbon to all! culture..
professional sports competitions are based on a 'winner takes it all' basis and should be 'cut-throat' to some extent.
If players want to set up a solidarity fund, they can always do this.
I haven't heard Federer and Nadal speaking about how this is such a big issue though...
- MaximusAurelius

There's probably a case to be made that tennis needs a lower tier to feed upwards, but I'll bet that an analysis of statistics would call that B.S.

I'd venture a guess that there's a very, very slim amount of players that have ever made it to the top 64 who hadn't advanced past the top 160 after a year on the minor circuit.

Same thing can probably be said for hockey. Do we really need an ECHL?

There's probably a case to be made that tennis needs a lower tier to feed upwards, but I'll bet that an analysis of statistics would call that B.S.

I'd venture a guess that there's a very, very slim amount of players that have ever made it to the top 64 who hadn't advanced past the top 160 after a year on the minor circuit.

Same thing can probably be said for hockey. Do we really need an ECHL?
- Atomic Wedgie

ECHL good for organizations with $ to move and keep track of assets

I love that Trudeau said that masks prevent people from speaking moistly on each other and then says what a terrible image black face

RIP John Prine

If you want a further good read on the craziness of sports league finances, go to the Athletic and read:

Revealed and explained: the ‘terrible’ state of Premier League clubs’ finances

Some wild, wacky stuff.

RIP John Prine
- winsix

I honestly have never heard of him.

I honestly have never heard of him.
- Atomic Wedgie

A big name in Americana/Folk/Country music. Songwriter with some substance. Wrote about the average person and the human condition with some humour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8tTwXv4glY

oh good, so its Biden who has to try and beat the trump cult

oh good, so its Biden who has to try and beat the trump cult
- senstroll

Not sure where you're getting your information from, but the last 24 hours on hockeybuzz have taught me that Trump doesn't lie (it's the WaPo who are biased), and that anyone who thinks he's a bad president are part of the extreme left who seek to destroy anyone who disagrees with them.

Not sure where you're getting your information from, but the last 24 hours on hockeybuzz have taught me that Trump doesn't lie (it's the WaPo who are biased), and that anyone who thinks he's a bad president are part of the extreme left who seek to destroy anyone who disagrees with them.
- TheMussel

Trump is just a vile poopty person. He is a bad person, its pretty simple. probably raped several women also.

you just have to be ok with that stuff to support him

Trump is just a vile poopty person. He is a bad person, its pretty simple. probably raped several women also.

you just have to be ok with that stuff to support him
- senstroll

Completely unrelated - but I wonder what Keefe thinks of Trump...

Trump is just a vile poopty person. He is a bad person, its pretty simple. probably raped several women also.

you just have to be ok with that stuff to support him
- senstroll

Wrong again, he loves America and the world and would do anything for them. I would wager that if there was a war going on, he would volunteer to go fight for his country because that's just the kind of guy he is.

Not sure where you're getting your information from, but the last 24 hours on hockeybuzz have taught me that Trump doesn't lie (it's the WaPo who are biased), and that anyone who thinks he's a bad president are part of the extreme left who seek to destroy anyone who disagrees with them.
- TheMussel

Yes and he's doing such a fine job. After his protege Kushner is done single-handedly defeating the covid 19 pandemic, Kushner will be put in charge of NASA's new multi-trillion dollar space program.