Carol Schram: Canucks/Leafs 1994 replay & the NHL plan for Phase 2 small-group training There's no timeline yet, but the NHL has laid out its health and safety expectations for small-group training at team facilities as it hopes to move to Phase 2 of the Return To Play plan sometime in early June.

Thank you Carol!

Well done Carol!!

I am sure you have seen Carol , the German soccer played the last two weeks where two people going for a head ball bang into each other , swapping sweat from the hair on their heads , full contact , and then they score and give their team mate no contact high fives six feet apart.

To me it makes no sense. I think the good intentions will be short lived.

Thanks Carol

I can't imagine how in a full contact game you could keep the infection probability low, the Bundesliga example you used is perfect. I hope that they can at least manage infections, it seems most of the leagues to come back have had a few so far.

I can't imagine how in a full contact game you could keep the infection probability low, the Bundesliga example you used is perfect. I hope that they can at least manage infections, it seems most of the leagues to come back have had a few so far.
- Nucknab23

My read is that by the time they get to a contact situation in a game, they'll feel relatively confident that none of the players or staff are carrying the virus. If there's nothing to transmit, then they're good.

I can't imagine how in a full contact game you could keep the infection probability low, the Bundesliga example you used is perfect. I hope that they can at least manage infections, it seems most of the leagues to come back have had a few so far.
- Nucknab23

Yeah I just don't see it working either.

My read is that by the time they get to a contact situation in a game, they'll feel relatively confident that none of the players or staff are carrying the virus. If there's nothing to transmit, then they're good.
- Carol Schram

This.

This.


- dbot

If there was no such thing as an incubation period and the testing would be able to give positive results to Asymptomatic people, I would fully support this.

If there was no such thing as an incubation period and the testing would be able to give positive results to Asymptomatic people, I would fully support this.
- Codes1087

Sure, or as you've mentioned having a vaccine would be ideal, but we don't know if or when that would even be realistic.

I think the measures sound safe and practical - robust testing whilst keeping players/personnel isolated. If they've been signed off by the relevant health boards, i'm good.

PS i believe you can test asymptomatic people, no?

Yeah I just don't see it working either.
- A_SteamingLombardi

https://www.youtube.com/w...EGipx1UCvKEqgO4rWtuTM7nZg

Sure, or as you've mentioned having a vaccine would be ideal, but we don't know if or when that would even be realistic.

I think the measures sound safe and practical - robust testing whilst keeping players/personnel isolated. If they've been signed off by the relevant health boards, i'm good.

PS i believe you can test asymptomatic people, no?
- dbot

You can test Asymptomatic people, that's not the issue. The issue is that the testing isnt conclusive enough. You can be covid19 positive, be in a Asymptomatic phase and give a negative test result. The test is super sensitive, which is why the 14 day "incubation" or "isolation" is in place.

My read is that by the time they get to a contact situation in a game, they'll feel relatively confident that none of the players or staff are carrying the virus. If there's nothing to transmit, then they're good.
- Carol Schram

You can test Asymptomatic people, that's not the issue. The issue is that the testing isnt conclusive enough. You can be covid19 positive, be in a Asymptomatic phase and give a negative test result. The test is super sensitive, which is why the 14 day "incubation" or "isolation" is in place.
- Codes1087

well nothing is going to be 100% perfect.
It sounds like they're talking about using very cautious and robust safety protocols.
test, hygiene, keep players and personnel as isolated as possible.
repeat.

Thanks Carol


Everyone looking forward to summer?

well nothing is going to be 100% perfect.
It sounds like they're talking about using very cautious and robust safety protocols.
test, hygiene, keep players and personnel as isolated as possible.
repeat.
- dbot

to quote the canuck legend himself, Jared McCann

It is what it is

Mike Russo has a really interesting interview with Devan Dubnyk up on The Athletic today.

Dubnyk's a longtime player rep, so he's seen some things. Talks about how this negotiation is different from, say, the 2012 lockout or deciding last summer not to re-open the CBA.

Also reinforces that the only thing the players have voted for so far is the 24-team format, and even some of those details are still up in the air.

Says the next things players will want to know about include things like safety, testing protocols etc — and cost-effectiveness. How much revenue will actually be generated after all the expenses are deducted?? None of that has been discussed with them yet, at all.

I imagine that $$ estimate will ultimately play a huge part in players' decisions whether or not to take on the risk that would come with playing. And that number is going to be different for different people — so they're thinking that they might let each player vote individually.

Every answer just leads to more questions at this point...

to quote the canuck legend himself, Jared McCann

It is what it is
- Codes1087

Oh man, I think Bertuzzi owns that one.

Jehovah Witnesses are no longer knocking on people's doors but now they are writing letters and mailing them, take your (frank)ing religion and shove it up your ass.

Jehovah Witnesses are no longer knocking on people's doors but now they are writing letters and mailing them, take your (frank)ing religion and shove it up your ass.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Do their newsletters read "Apocalypse : Told You So!"

- RealityChecker