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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 8:18 PM ET
Didn’t Toronto just spike in cases?
- Doogs


Nope. Windsor, I think, spiked up big the past few days.
Leafcup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Aurora, ON
Joined: 06.16.2016

Jun 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
I doubt very much that there will be a Hub City anywhere in the US and the American fans can thank the liar, cheat and racist Trump for that
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:24 PM ET
Oh so you support internment camps for those who refuse to take the vaccine?

"Re-education camps" eh


Interesting turn of events. How very accepting of others rights and freedoms you are lol

- Komisaurus Rex


Big fan of the plastic worm.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 30 @ 8:24 PM ET
If the Habs win the draft lottery I'll attend a Boy George concert
- Komisaurus Rex

Red, white and blue replaced with red, gold and green?
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

Jun 30 @ 8:25 PM ET
I doubt very much that there will be a Hub City anywhere in the US and the American fans can thank the liar, cheat and racist Trump for that
- Leafcup


woah! did you just say your feelings are hurt? if you want we can talk about them.
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jun 30 @ 9:06 PM ET
Wonder if there isn’t a flyers conspiracy afoot. It would be a shame if they cancelled the season...feels like this was going to be the first of 5 cups in a row for the men in orange!!!

Oh well...cancel the season...keep everyone safe i say.

After all...4 cups in a row ain’t too shabby either!!!
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 30 @ 10:02 PM ET
Vegas?

Lord Nurgle is pleased.

Putin's Beard
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.11.2019

Jun 30 @ 10:04 PM ET
A lot of loony conspiracy theories are used to discredit logical reasoning


I'm more concerned about the contents of the vaccine than I am micro-chipping. Like you alluded to they're already tracking us via technology. In places where gates vaccines have been implemented mainly in African countries it's caused a lot of bad side effects and even casualties. Sure there are allergies and everyone will react to vaccines differently but that's enough to make me skeptical of just blindly taking something the government tells me to

Then there's the videos of gates talking ad nauseam about depopulating the planet by 10-15%. So the guy who is in charge of the covid vaccine who has a very sketchy vaccine history also happens to be a huge proponent of depopulation and we are not allowed to question his intentions or the vaccine itself? (depopulation in the name of climate change, it's about CO2 emissions)


You can take the vaccine, nobody cares if people chose to take it but don't force people who don't want to or demonize them implying that they're antivaxxers or whatever you people call them to make them appear bad


I can't post a video here or I'll get banned again, but look it up, during his TED talk. Hell I'll probably get banned for this post

- Komisaurus Rex



Hell, you probably should be!
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Guhle is already the McJesus of defense , ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Jun 30 @ 11:30 PM ET
[quote=Putin's Beard]




Ek certainly owes me a Big Mac for all the snowflakes I triggered today. Hit$$$ baby
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:47 AM ET
15 cases to zero like a miracle....
Kopitar1
Los Angeles Kings
Location: west covina, CA
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:02 AM ET
its going to be sounds like now edmonton and toronto probably smarter to keep it in canada
Kopitar1
Los Angeles Kings
Location: west covina, CA
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:03 AM ET
I doubt very much that there will be a Hub City anywhere in the US and the American fans can thank the liar, cheat and racist Trump for that
- Leafcup

or you can blame the protests down and here young people not caring and not wearing mask
poopstash
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 03.21.2015

Jul 1 @ 6:54 AM ET
Ek certainly owes me a Big Mac for all the snowflakes I triggered today. Hit$$$ baby

-Komisoreass Rex

I’m sure if you ask your manager nicely he’ll let you take one home for free
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 1 @ 8:31 AM ET
Ek certainly owes me a Big Mac for all the snowflakes I triggered today. Hit$$$ baby

-Komisoreass Rex

I’m sure if you ask your manager nicely he’ll let you take one home for free

- poopstash

Habby meal?

FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Jul 1 @ 8:50 AM ET
Man, I enjoy an evening out and come back to see a tinfoil hat has taken over the conversation.

And the guy is from Canada. I thought you guys had your sh!t together up there?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jul 1 @ 8:52 AM ET
Looks like it's Edmonton and Toronto...

https://www.tsn.ca/edmont...-nhl-hub-cities-1.1491108
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Jul 1 @ 8:57 AM ET
Looks like it's Edmonton and Toronto...

https://www.tsn.ca/edmont...-nhl-hub-cities-1.1491108

- gergeswillems


Good. Hopefully that's true. Also noticed the players will have an "opt-out". That's good too.

Watched a rerun of the Ducks/Preds series last night, I am ready for hockey to be back, but only if it's safe. The hubs in Canada would be a giant step in the right direction.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:02 AM ET
Lots of talk trying to distinguish between US and Canadian perspectives. I have believed the difference is essentially the result of education.

In a recent OECD report, Canada ranked first in the world with 56% of their population having successfully completed two years of tertiary studies (community college, technical apprenticeship or university studies). US ranked sixth with a 46% rate of tertiary education achievement.

Although the difference is only 10%, it actually teases out to be a very significant factor in terms of political and social values. For example, poorly educated white men overwhelmingly support Trump where resentment is valued more than reason. Tend to be against something more than they are for anything.

Obviously, there are many resentful, bitter, uneducated folks in Canada. But, they seem more lost among multiple political parties and it is much easier to ignore them.

"I don't want to wear a mask because I don't know better" seems to be grounded in ignorance.

So, can anybody really be surprised that Vancouver said "no" to continuing a bid because they refused to guarantee to continue hosting the playoffs even if a flare up in Covid infections occurs.

The public support for Toronto being a playoff hub is fragile, at best. Can the Premier risk giving a blanket exemption to the NHL. I don't think so.


FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Jul 1 @ 9:12 AM ET
Lots of talk trying to distinguish between US and Canadian perspectives. I have believed the difference is essentially the result of education.

In a recent OECD report, Canada ranked first in the world with 56% of their population having successfully completed two years of tertiary studies (community college, technical apprenticeship or university studies). US ranked sixth with a 46% rate of tertiary education achievement.

Although the difference is only 10%, it actually teases out to be a very significant factor in terms of political and social values. For example, poorly educated white men overwhelmingly support Trump where resentment is valued more than reason. Tend to be against something more than they are for anything.

Obviously, there are many resentful, bitter, uneducated folks in Canada. But, they seem more lost among multiple political parties and it is much easier to ignore them.

"I don't want to wear a mask because I don't know better" seems to be grounded in ignorance.

So, can anybody really be surprised that Vancouver said "no" to continuing a bid because they refused to guarantee to continue hosting the playoffs even if a flare up in Covid infections occurs.

The public support for Toronto being a playoff hub is fragile, at best. Can the Premier risk giving a blanket exemption to the NHL. I don't think so.

- spatso


Are you guys having the mask issue like we are? I don't know how it happened, but wearing a mask has been equalled to giving up constitutional rights. On the surface, it's ridiculous, but people are becoming violent. There's always been the "Don't tread on me" nuts that would rather live in a bunker, but this is a whole new level of seemingly normal people who are flat out rejecting common sense. It's very frustrating.
tpd11
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: FL
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:17 AM ET
Is the league going to test the players and hookers in Vegas?
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:19 AM ET
The media has not stopped pushing fear.

More cases bc of more testing. But the death remains static in all places except one.

The spike coincides with BLM protests and there hasn't been an uptick in deaths so it would not be wrong to siggest the uptick in cases comes from young people protesting who might get sick but are not dying without underlying health issues.

Just bc someone who appears healthy and is young dies does not mean that they did not have an undigniasoded underlying health condition.

The narrative does not councide with the science nor the data. This appears to be more political in nature.

See gummibear on twitter for stats and graphs.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:23 AM ET
Lots of talk trying to distinguish between US and Canadian perspectives. I have believed the difference is essentially the result of education.

In a recent OECD report, Canada ranked first in the world with 56% of their population having successfully completed two years of tertiary studies (community college, technical apprenticeship or university studies). US ranked sixth with a 46% rate of tertiary education achievement.

Although the difference is only 10%, it actually teases out to be a very significant factor in terms of political and social values. For example, poorly educated white men overwhelmingly support Trump where resentment is valued more than reason. Tend to be against something more than they are for anything.

Obviously, there are many resentful, bitter, uneducated folks in Canada. But, they seem more lost among multiple political parties and it is much easier to ignore them.

"I don't want to wear a mask because I don't know better" seems to be grounded in ignorance.

So, can anybody really be surprised that Vancouver said "no" to continuing a bid because they refused to guarantee to continue hosting the playoffs even if a flare up in Covid infections occurs.

The public support for Toronto being a playoff hub is fragile, at best. Can the Premier risk giving a blanket exemption to the NHL. I don't think so.

- spatso


That’s only a partial explanation. There are deep philosophical differences. The concept of personal freedom being more important than the collective good s much stronger in the US than in Canada. Canada had always had a collectivist mentality.

Partly related to that there really hasn’t been any politicization of the medical response to the pandemic. There’s been some differences on how to direct government support to those hurt by it but even that much on that.

The differences in education are real but also reflect these same philosophical differences. Education in Canada is seen much more as a public good and has worked to support social and economic mobility. In the US, not so much.

Of course, guys like Komi are embarrassing outliers.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:27 AM ET
Are you guys having the mask issue like we are? I don't know how it happened, but wearing a mask has been equalled to giving up constitutional rights. On the surface, it's ridiculous, but people are becoming violent. There's always been the "Don't tread on me" nuts that would rather live in a bunker, but this is a whole new level of seemingly normal people who are flat out rejecting common sense. It's very frustrating.
- FoxMulder


Wearing/not wearing masks are more a reflection of a lack of courtesy and commitment to people around you you than philosophical issues here. Also, case levels are much lower so people don’t have the same level of worry.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:28 AM ET
The media has not stopped pushing fear.

More cases bc of more testing. But the death remains static in all places except one.

The spike coincides with BLM protests and there hasn't been an uptick in deaths so it would not be wrong to siggest the uptick in cases comes from young people protesting who might get sick but are not dying without underlying health issues.

Just bc someone who appears healthy and is young dies does not mean that they did not have an undigniasoded underlying health condition.

The narrative does not councide with the science nor the data. This appears to be more political in nature.

See gummibear on twitter for stats and graphs.

- BluemanGuruu


Congrats, dead wrong in every point. That takes some effort
FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Jul 1 @ 9:39 AM ET


The spike coincides with BLM protests and there hasn't been an uptick in deaths so it would not be wrong to siggest the uptick in cases comes from young people protesting who might get sick but are not dying without underlying health issues.

- BluemanGuruu



The spike also coincides with reopening too early. In fact, there's more empirical data that this is the case than not. Though most predicted there would be an uptick, what they didn't foresee is people treating reopening as if the virus was no longer a threat. Beaches, gyms, restaurants, bars...this is where you're seeing the spread. Some cities/states are having to shut down again.




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