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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Edmonton lures NHL with plagiarized non-Edmonton footage Edmonton lures NHL with plagiarized non-Edmonton footage
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 10:17 AM ET
A host city will get a F load of business and money spent in it. Multiple hotels that are probably in the sh!tter financially because tourism and business are f'd will get a boost and a lot of people will probably gain employment in those cities from it being a host....so I totally understand cities really wanting this to happen there.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
Also, that promo video is f'n hilarious. Jason Kenny, like most politicians, is full of sh!t.

Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jul 2 @ 10:29 AM ET

The bottom line is doing this in Canada makes a lot more sense then doing it in the United States. Edmonton would seem a lot safer then Las Vegas.

Not sure why Ottawa or Montreal never seemed under consideration for the East but obviously the NHL has a lot of ties to Toronto.

pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
Like probably getting into the hundreds of millions of dollars... Booking 8 teams at 40 rooms each is 320 rooms. Not the cheapest hotels either even say they get an amazing deal and get them for $100 each room for only 2 weeks thats $448,000. The arena staff will be working 16 hours a day. Apparently in Edmonton there is gonna be a HUGE cleaning company thats apparently working 24/7 and 60 people alone. Some restaurants are gonna have to feed 8 entire teams 3-5 times a day (again Im sure we can assume its not gonna be a kraft dinner and juice box meal....) Transportation of players, staff, meals, etc. 24/7 security of the arena and hotels along with 2-3 hotels of employees completely packed for AT LEAST 2 weeks. ya thats just the start of how many people need to be working and being paid to do these things... My company was 1 of I dont even know how many electrical/IT service companies hired for the Vancouver olympics for 2 hotels in case of electrical or data failure and we only had 8 workers working 2 split shifts for 3 weeks and I can tell you the bill wasnt cheap...
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
No one is self conscious here. There is a poll on TSN 1260, half are happy about it and half don’t give a (frank). It’s just a premiere promoting his Provence. Edmonton and Toronto got it because the USA virus numbers are way up and the two cities have good plans and the infrastructure to create the bubble. No big deal, I live a few blocks from the rink, but will be watching it on TV like everyone else.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
Like probably getting into the hundreds of millions of dollars... Booking 8 teams at 40 rooms each is 320 rooms. Not the cheapest hotels either even say they get an amazing deal and get them for $100 each room for only 2 weeks thats $448,000. The arena staff will be working 16 hours a day. Apparently in Edmonton there is gonna be a HUGE cleaning company thats apparently working 24/7 and 60 people alone. Some restaurants are gonna have to feed 8 entire teams 3-5 times a day (again Im sure we can assume its not gonna be a kraft dinner and juice box meal....) Transportation of players, staff, meals, etc. 24/7 security of the arena and hotels along with 2-3 hotels of employees completely packed for AT LEAST 2 weeks. ya thats just the start of how many people need to be working and being paid to do these things... My company was 1 of I dont even know how many electrical/IT service companies hired for the Vancouver olympics for 2 hotels in case of electrical or data failure and we only had 8 workers working 2 split shifts for 3 weeks and I can tell you the bill wasnt cheap...
- pens4life-66


Yeah, you've covered even more than I have here. The trickle down effect of this for people and the economy will be great...as long as they all dont get covid of course.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:20 AM ET
The deaths from the spikes of the last week or two will be coming soon, as well as potentially the health care overload. The trickle down effect of healthcare overload is insane the more you think about it. A lot of people wont get the treatments and attention they need for non-covid sh!t if the hospitals overflow. Florida wont even release the hospital numbers that I can find...but at that steady incline of new infections its certainly not far fetched that there's a healthcare disasters right around the corner. They are your oldest aged state and I also thought I read somewhere your most obese as well. Not a good combo for this.

Its true though, its not near as deadly as initially thought. The mortality rate figures as well as the critical or serious condition figures dropped significantly since it it spread from China and Europe. Never the less, its contagious as fvck, and those percentages spread across millions and billions of people result in a lot of dead or very sick people.

- MattStrat


We are a month removed from Memorial Day and we didn’t see any spikes in death from that. Look at the Scandinavian countries. They hardly did any lockdown and it’s reported that only 10% wear masks but yet their death rate is similar to the USAs.

Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark have had 46 deaths since June 26th while having no lockdown and no masks.

https://twitter.com/jorda.../1278689379943419905?s=21
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:23 AM ET
We are a month removed from Memorial Day and we didn’t see any spikes in death from that. Look at the Scandinavian countries. They hardly did any lockdown and it’s reported that only 10% wear masks but yet their death rate is similar to the USAs.

Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Denmark have had 46 deaths since June 26th while having no lockdown and no masks.

https://twitter.com/jorda.../1278689379943419905?s=21

- j.boyd919



I just finished reading this

https://www.businessinsid...XXzyWEKdO85RPDm0Jr366_Uo8

Sweden's neighboring countries all completely locked down.

EDIT: also, none of these countries have had the civil unrest and mass gatherings that the USA have had.

EDIT2: The mortality rate is low, I agree. Im more so talking about the infections rates and the danger that can present to health care systems. A lot of people suffer when they get overloaded.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
I just finished reading this

https://www.businessinsid...XXzyWEKdO85RPDm0Jr366_Uo8

Sweden's neighboring countries all completely locked down.

EDIT: also, none of these countries have had the civil unrest and mass gatherings that the USA have had.

EDIT2: The mortality rate is low, I agree. Im more so talking about the infections rates and the danger that can present to health care systems. A lot of people suffer when they get overloaded.

- MattStrat


Yeah the civil unrest/mass gatherings definitely ain’t helping but... it’s America and that is their right to protest lol

I honestly don’t think the healthcare systems will be overwhelmed. Younger people don’t typically need the hospitalization/care that others do, I have a few friends that got it and their symptoms were mild. Granted that is anecdotal and some people definitely get it worse but I’m pretty sure hospitalizations are way down as well. Now that we have some knowledge about this virus we’re a little more prepared for it.

I saw a lot of studies saying masks don’t do poop either.

https://www.abqjournal.co...ont-keep-out-covid19.html

Like this one^^ there’s so much conflicting data out there.

Edit: I may be mistaken but I think Cali has had masks mandatory for a long time with lockdowns and they’re spike just as hard as Florida/Arizona/etc.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jul 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
Masks DEFINITELY help there’s no denying that. The areas that are struggling need to be wearing masks.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:24 PM ET
Masks DEFINITELY help there’s no denying that. The areas that are struggling need to be wearing masks.
- SimpleJack


There are studies that say it doesn’t help, so there’s that.

abasin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.27.2018

Jul 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
As soon as the virus became a political tool is when I stop considering it a serious threat. If this disease actually had an infection rate as high as they predicted and a 3-5% mortality rate, much more stringent measures would be taking place. Got to love RW's jab at a country that did not listen to the supreme overlords of the WHO and approached COVID their own way...Over/under that he has a "Feel the Burn" bumper sticker on his car?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 12:32 PM ET
Yeah the civil unrest/mass gatherings definitely ain’t helping but... it’s America and that is their right to protest lol

I honestly don’t think the healthcare systems will be overwhelmed. Younger people don’t typically need the hospitalization/care that others do, I have a few friends that got it and their symptoms were mild. Granted that is anecdotal and some people definitely get it worse but I’m pretty sure hospitalizations are way down as well. Now that we have some knowledge about this virus we’re a little more prepared for it.

I saw a lot of studies saying masks don’t do poop either.

https://www.abqjournal.co...ont-keep-out-covid19.html

Like this one^^ there’s so much conflicting data out there.

Edit: I may be mistaken but I think Cali has had masks mandatory for a long time with lockdowns and they’re spike just as hard as Florida/Arizona/etc.

- j.boyd919



You're right about the main age demographic being effected right now and it being one of the best to deal with it but who are they going around once infected? Also keeping in mind alot of them will be asymptomatic but also contagious.

Italy got bent over and had so many deaths because the main regions hit hard were not only their oldest age demographic but also some of the highest smoker per capita numbers in the world.. Their culture also includes greeting people with hugs and kisses on the check, as opposed to handshakes. In my city there's only been like 261 cases... Over 200 of them alone were from someone from Toronto flying in for a funeral and infecting dozens at a funeral home. Then those passed it on to their loved ones. One family I know impacted by the funeral home had 10 family members get it and they were all very sick except one. One big clusterfvck here came from one solitary alone traveller to our province (state).

I've read countless studies about the masks working and really when you really think about they have to help to a degree. Personally I dont wear one right now, it's not mandated , but I'm usually in the slight minority when I'm out and about here.
Leichs
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.04.2013

Jul 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Check out this remade video of the brutal Kennedy video. This is the video that should have been sent out

https://www.iheartradio.c...4QxcZ-xnb8S1629OlycRsE9cU
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
Check out this remade video of the brutal Kennedy video. This is the video that should have been sent out

https://www.iheartradio.c...4QxcZ-xnb8S1629OlycRsE9cU

- Leichs


Hahahah awesome
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
You're right about the main age demographic being effected right now and it being one of the best to deal with it but who are they going around once infected? Also keeping in mind alot of them will be asymptomatic but also contagious.

Italy got bent over and had so many deaths because the main regions hit hard were not only their oldest age demographic but also some of the highest smoker per capita numbers in the world.. Their culture also includes greeting people with hugs and kisses on the check, as opposed to handshakes. In my city there's only been like 261 cases... Over 200 of them alone were from someone from Toronto flying in for a funeral and infecting dozens at a funeral home. Then those passed it on to their loved ones. One family I know impacted by the funeral home had 10 family members get it and they were all very sick except one. One big clusterfvck here came from one solitary alone traveller to our province (state).

I've read countless studies about the masks working and really when you really think about they have to help to a degree. Personally I dont wear one right now, it's not mandated , but I'm usually in the slight minority when I'm out and about here.

- MattStrat


Yeah it’s a really weird situation because on one hand, you have suicides, domestic violence, drug overdoses, unemployment etc. all going up while deaths from Covid are all going down. Not to mention they weren’t separating death from Covid and death with Covid for a while so the numbers all got (frank)ed up for a while (even though they claim to have fixed them), they also claimed masks weren’t necessary because they didn’t want medical professionals to run out and now all of a sudden they are necessary. It’s pretty difficult to figure out what is legit and what isn’t, a pandemic like this shouldn’t be political but unfortunately it has become political in way too many ways.

I’ve definitely seen a lot of studies that show that masks don’t do Richard. It really just depends on where you’re getting your info from, you can definitely find studies going both ways and that’s what makes this so god damn frustrating.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 2 @ 1:23 PM ET
Yeah it’s a really weird situation because on one hand, you have suicides, domestic violence, drug overdoses, unemployment etc. all going up while deaths from Covid are all going down. Not to mention they weren’t separating death from Covid and death with Covid for a while so the numbers all got (frank)ed up for a while (even though they claim to have fixed them), they also claimed masks weren’t necessary because they didn’t want medical professionals to run out and now all of a sudden they are necessary. It’s pretty difficult to figure out what is legit and what isn’t, a pandemic like this shouldn’t be political but unfortunately it has become political in way too many ways.

I’ve definitely seen a lot of studies that show that masks don’t do Richard. It really just depends on where you’re getting your info from, you can definitely find studies going both ways and that’s what makes this so god damn frustrating.

- j.boyd919



Yes exactly but just actually think about it. Covid is spread by infected peoples respiratory droplets. If there's anything at all in front of your mouth and nose to catch any amount of said droplets, then its working to a degree.


Furthermore on sources and studies...why is it when I go to Fox news today there's hardly any mention of Covid? None of the headlines are about it hahah thats f'n insane to me. You have Trump boasting and spouting about good job numbers that are only up to the first week of June...you know before this massive spike and states rolling back their re-opening plans or even shutting things down again...oh and Epstein's girlfriend was arrested...how long before shes dead?

FoxMulder
Nashville Predators
Location: Christiana, TN
Joined: 02.26.2018

Jul 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
1000 scientists: wearing a mask helps
3 scientists: Yeah, maybe

American people: See, no one really knows.

Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Does Kenney even know what's going on with the hub cities? His response to the video was that it was to market to the families that the players will be bringing along that'll need something to do for two months. Does he understand what isolation means? Why would any of the players bring their families?

"Do you want to come to Edmonton, live in a hotel for a few months, maybe spend a weekend in Jasper, and never see me for two months, or would you rather stay home in our multimillion-dollar home with your friends and family?"
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
No one is self conscious here. There is a poll on TSN 1260, half are happy about it and half don’t give a (frank). It’s just a premiere promoting his Provence. Edmonton and Toronto got it because the USA virus numbers are way up and the two cities have good plans and the infrastructure to create the bubble. No big deal, I live a few blocks from the rink, but will be watching it on TV like everyone else.
- doon

You need a Dr Bonny to raise questions & get the answers. Don’t get them & still proceed then it’s on the politician & all those supporting him if or when it goes sideways.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
1000 scientists: wearing a mask helps
3 scientists: Yeah, maybe

American people: See, no one really knows.


- FoxMulder


There's a lot more to it than that. Yes, wearing a mask helps a bit, but it's not really all that effective if you're standing close to someone for an extended period of time. Distancing if far, far more effective.

The problem is that people wearing masks that see other people wearing masks think they're probably safe and aren't as careful about the distancing. People feeling safe because they have a mask on is the biggest problem.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 2:34 PM ET
1000 scientists: wearing a mask helps
3 scientists: Yeah, maybe

American people: See, no one really knows.


- FoxMulder


Lol okay buddy.
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Jul 2 @ 2:35 PM ET
People feeling safe because they have a mask on is the biggest problem.


surely people wearing masks are a bigger problem than the idiots without masks
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
Well the real conspiracy theorists think that Trump is going to expose the deep state, both Dems and repubs. Word on the dark web is he’s been arresting pedo blood drinkers since he got into office and that’s why both parties are scared of him. He is our savior. He is our champion. He is.. Trump. Keep America great and orange.

In all reality I think he (frank)ed up his next term with how he handled the riots and CHAZ and poop. Not that he could do much until the states ask, but he doesn’t exactly have a unifying voice even if I tend to agree with things like more funding vs defunding the popo but the problem is that people have already drawn their line in the sand. No matter what he tries to say, people either love him or hate him. Not much middle ground.

- j.boyd919

The race between Trump and Clinton was probably the most divisive ever. Neither candidates even tried to pretend to address the concerns of the other side, they only spoke to their base. So I agree with what you're saying, but Trump's campaign strategy is it's his side against the other side so I think he's pretty much going for that result.
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