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he is a .5 ppg player
how many years and how much do you offer craig smith, if they were planning on spending to the cap?
I would be curious what others would offer him as well - homiedclown
i plugged him into my last lineup at 2yrs/$7.5 million...may need to increase term and/or salary, but i don't think it'll be too far off for a winger in this climate |
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No one knows what Cozens will do, but he isn't rated #1 for nothing, the kid can skate, is a very good passer, him and Skinner could look very good together. Get them a decent RW and let them go, maybe there will be some growing pains, the kid is good, let's see what he's got. |
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We have needed a 2C ever since we traded one of the better ones in the league. And I don’t think that will change. Sadly - IndianaSabresFan
Im certainly not going to get my hopes up that they'll finally address it. If I were handicapping the likeliest scenario for training camp, it's that they roll in with Mojo, Kahun, Lazar, Cozens, Mittelstadt and Asplund and say "well, out of these 6 'centers,' 3 of em have to work out."
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No one knows what Cozens will do, but he isn't rated #1 for nothing, the kid can skate, is a very good passer, him and Skinner could look very good together. Get them a decent RW and let them go, maybe there will be some growing pains, the kid is good, let's see what he's got. - Buff36
Putting all your eggs in one basket, though?
What if he isn't ready? Mojo at 2C again? Might as well get out the golf clubs. |
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homiedclown
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That doesn't mean it is a better middle six then the Bruins, even if a miracle occurs. It's simply not. - kingcong39
disagree
skinner is a 40 goal scorer which trumps anything in the middle 6
kahun is a .5 ppg player in the middle 6
johansson is better then a .5 ppg guy with 20 goals if healthy and plays a full season on the wing
fast is a perfect 3rd line winger with great pk skills
and you got 2 picks in the top 8 in casey and cozens
if casey and cozens produce, this middle 6 is miles ahead of the bruins middle 6
debrusk is a really good second line winger
krejci is a beast as a second line center
the others?
Kuraly is worse then Fast
Casey is better already then Ritchie or the other Ritchie
Coyle is fine for a third line center, but nothing special
Casey and Cozens are not the new Fasching and Bailey
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Buff36
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Putting all your eggs in one basket, though?
What if he isn't ready? Mojo at 2C again? Might as well get out the golf clubs. - Powerslave
No that is why if you can't go the trade route, you bring in Haula or Soderberg to play 3C as backup just in case. They can flip with Cozens if need be. If Homie is right and have no reason to doubt him, we aren't spending to the cap. That's why if you can get Strome from Chicago would be perfect cause he is a RFA and isn't gonna cost a poop ton. |
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Yet it’s clear to everyone with a brain they aren’t. - IndianaSabresFan
maybe they are working out during the covid time off? |
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homiedclown
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i plugged him into my last lineup at 2yrs/$7.5 million...may need to increase term and/or salary, but i don't think it'll be too far off for a winger in this climate - Michael Pachla
I'd like Boss's take on how much to offer Smith, I noticed he didn't chime in |
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homiedclown
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No one knows what Cozens will do, but he isn't rated #1 for nothing, the kid can skate, is a very good passer, him and Skinner could look very good together. Get them a decent RW and let them go, maybe there will be some growing pains, the kid is good, let's see what he's got. - Buff36
I think betweem Johansson and Tage, you have that RW
honestly, I would like to see Tage get a shot on the top line in training camp
olofsson-eichel-tage
skinner-cozens-skunk
you could get 75 goals from that second line and really have a 1-2 punch
if soccer man opened it up |
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No that is why if you can't go the trade route, you bring in Haula or Soderberg to play 3C as backup just in case. They can flip with Cozens if need be. If Homie is right and have no reason to doubt him, we aren't spending to the cap. That's why if you can get Strome from Chicago would be perfect cause he is a RFA and isn't gonna cost a poop ton. - Buff36
I'm on board the Strome train.
Haula makes me nervous. He legit had ONE good season. |
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homiedclown
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No that is why if you can't go the trade route, you bring in Haula or Soderberg to play 3C as backup just in case. They can flip with Cozens if need be. If Homie is right and have no reason to doubt him, we aren't spending to the cap. That's why if you can get Strome from Chicago would be perfect cause he is a RFA and isn't gonna cost a poop ton. - Buff36
if they did an overhaul on the middle 6, which I doubt
smith, soderberg and fast would flip the script and we might actually have a decent PK |
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I'm on board the Strome train.
Haula makes me nervous. He legit had ONE good season. - Powerslave
Haula is a ?, he is very talented, just can't stay healthy, but I think he would be worth a shot, and he wouldn't cost a lot. |
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if they did an overhaul on the middle 6, which I doubt
smith, soderberg and fast would flip the script and we might actually have a decent PK - homiedclown
And having a decent PK would do wonders, killed us last year. |
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kingcong39
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disagree
skinner is a 40 goal scorer which trumps anything in the middle 6
kahun is a .5 ppg player in the middle 6
johansson is better then a .5 ppg guy with 20 goals if healthy and plays a full season on the wing
fast is a perfect 3rd line winger with great pk skills
and you got 2 picks in the top 8 in casey and cozens
if casey and cozens produce, this middle 6 is miles ahead of the bruins middle 6
debrusk is a really good second line winger
krejci is a beast as a second line center
the others?
Kuraly is worse then Fast
Casey is better already then Ritchie or the other Ritchie
Coyle is fine for a third line center, but nothing special
Casey and Cozens are not the new Fasching and Bailey - homiedclown
You are completely and totally ignoring what Mittelstadt has shown to date.
Also, the Center duo of Krejci - Coyle is light years better than Cozens - Kahun at least as far as next year goes.
The fan base would do cartwheels if they had a 2nd line Center producing at a.5 PPG rate like Coyle does, let alone a 3C who did that. |
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homiedclown
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You are completely and totally ignoring what Mittelstadt has shown to date.
Also, the Center duo of Krejci - Coyle is light years better than Cozens - Kahun at least as far as next year goes. - kingcong39
at this point, casey has done much more then strome did, but everyone wants to sell the farm for him
I trust what taylor did with casey and tage last year, based on his record with other guys
the best thing for this franchise is cozens and casey to be legit
the worst thing for this franchise is moving a bunch of younger guys with upside for vets |
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kingcong39
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i plugged him into my last lineup at 2yrs/$7.5 million...may need to increase term and/or salary, but i don't think it'll be too far off for a winger in this climate - Michael Pachla
You are banking on this climate depressing Smith's upcoming contract and the stink of the Sabres not meaning an increased cost in signing him.
Evolving Hockey's most prediction for his next contract is 3 years @ $4.4M per.
The next two most likely contract predictions for him are 5 years @ 5.3M per and 4 years @ $4.8M per.
I think there's a strong chance he will want and get at least a 3 year deal and at $4M+ per year. |
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homiedclown
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You are completely and totally ignoring what Mittelstadt has shown to date.
Also, the Center duo of Krejci - Coyle is light years better than Cozens - Kahun at least as far as next year goes.
The fan base would do cartwheels if they had a 2nd line Center producing at a.5 PPG rate like Coyle does, let alone a 3C who did that. - kingcong39
johansson was at a .5 ppg level last year
kahun has been consistently a .5 ppg player
skinner will bounce back, always does
cozens is one of the best nhl prospects in recent poll
casey did well in ahl
tage got 21 points in 24 games in ahl
the future is casey cozens, tage and kahun for the middle 6 |
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at this point, casey has done much more then strome did, but everyone wants to sell the farm for him
I trust what taylor did with casey and tage last year, based on his record with other guys
the best thing for this franchise is cozens and casey to be legit
the worst thing for this franchise is moving a bunch of younger guys with upside for vets - homiedclown
And the absolute worst thing is planning on them being legit, again, for the 3rd season in a row. It would be Groundhog Day. |
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You are banking on this climate depressing Smith's upcoming contract and the stink of the Sabres not meaning an increased cost in signing him.
Evolving Hockey's most prediction for his next contract is 3 years @ $4.4M per.
The next two most likely contract predictions for him are 5 years @ 5.3M per and 4 years @ $4.8M per.
I think there's a strong chance he will want and get at least a 3 year deal and at $4M+ per year. - kingcong39
I think Smith gets 5.5 or more per if he hits open market |
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Powerslave
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at this point, casey has done much more then strome did, but everyone wants to sell the farm for him
I trust what taylor did with casey and tage last year, based on his record with other guys
the best thing for this franchise is cozens and casey to be legit
the worst thing for this franchise is moving a bunch of younger guys with upside for vets - homiedclown
Strome had 51 points in 58 games two years ago and 38 in 58 last year.
Casey couldn't carry his jockstrap at this point. |
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homiedclown
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And the absolute worst thing is planning on them being legit, again, for the 3rd season in a row. It would be Groundhog Day. - kingcong39
we have this great coach though
you need to prepare for the worst if you have doubts on cozens and casey
hate to break it to you |
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johansson was at a .5 ppg level last year
kahun has been consistently a .5 ppg player
skinner will bounce back, always does
cozens is one of the best nhl prospects in recent poll
casey did well in ahl
tage got 21 points in 24 games in ahl
the future is casey cozens, tage and kahun for the middle 6 - homiedclown
Kahun has produced at .5PPG centering a line? He has not.
The future does not mean next year. Of the group of 4 you listed, only Kahun has shown he is ready. None of the others have at the NHL level. Planning on all 4 to be legit is akin to planning for doom. |
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kingcong39
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we have this great coach though
you need to prepare for the worst if you have doubts on cozens and casey
hate to break it to you - homiedclown
I am fully prepared for it.
Acting like it's remotely a good idea and will work is foolhardy at best. |
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Strome had 51 points in 58 games two years ago and 38 in 58 last year.
Casey couldn't carry his jockstrap at this point. - Powerslave
strome had 15 points in 48 games in the nhl at this point .312 ppg
casey has 39 points in 114 games .342 ppg
strome is 2 and a half years older |
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kingcong39
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I think Smith gets 5.5 or more per if he hits open market - homiedclown
I think that is more than he will get, and more than the projections.
I think his next contract will be somewhere between what you said and what Pachla said. |
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