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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
3rd liners don’t get 18min a night

- jdfitz77

3rd line gets 13-14 minutes 5 on 5 time per game

another 1.5 on pp time, second unit

and another 2.5 on pk


I mean larsson got close to 15 minutes a night with no pp time


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
Does it really need to be said ?

The frank you give someone 72 million dollars over 8 years then.

- Pegullaville


It just doesn’t make sense to assume they signed him to play on his own line,
when the entire year he played with us he was on Jack’s wing

I understand why they tired that,
Bc it’s no secret that we desperately need a 2nd line that can score regularly
But i don’t see anything to back your assumption that Skinner was signed strictly for that reason

Should’ve just left him with Jack
He was on pace for over 50goals before the injury,
wasn’t he?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 9:57 PM ET
3rd line gets 13-14 minutes 5 on 5 time per game

another 1.5 on pp time, second unit

and another 2.5 on pk


I mean larsson got close to 15 minutes a night with no pp time

- homiedclown


What 3rd liner in the NHL gets 18min a night?
I’ll bet it’s EXTREMELY rare

Start looking up guys u think are good 3rd liners
Their icetime is more like 15min
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 1 @ 9:58 PM ET
I'm with you on most of this. It's 5 on 4, stop blaming the coach.

Some of our guys aren't very good it, even if they are our best options.

- Lunaion


🤝
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Aug 1 @ 10:00 PM ET
Olofsson???
- jdfitz77

He will struggle defensively on any other line so he will be in and out of the lineup
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:00 PM ET
Skinner and VO weren't used in the same spot on the PP. Really no reason to compare them.
- Lunaion

2018-19 eichel was feeding skinner the puck on the pp

2019-20 eichel was feeding olofsson the puck on the pp


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:01 PM ET
What 3rd liner in the NHL gets 18min a night?
I’ll bet it’s EXTREMELY rare

Start looking up guys u think are good 3rd liners
Their icetime is more like 15min

- jdfitz77

I don't have time for a pissing contest with you

I simple said to use vesey right

it's third line winger

it's second team pp

it's second team pk


Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:02 PM ET
2018-19 eichel was feeding skinner the puck on the pp

2019-20 eichel was feeding olofsson the puck on the pp

- homiedclown


You watch Tampa Bay Lightning games, does Brayden Point not get PP goals from his position in the high slot in the umbrella formation ?

Or is Stammer, Hedman, Kucherov the only ones that score ?
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
I'm with you on most of this. It's 5 on 4, stop blaming the coach.

Some of our guys aren't very good it, even if they are our best options.

- Lunaion


Yeah, that's a major reason why they have been bottom feeders. If you don't have the soldiers you have a tough time winning the battles.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
So a need for a new blogger again...Pach can you make a comeback?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
It just doesn’t make sense to assume they signed him to play on his own line,
when the entire year he played with us he was on Jack’s wing

I understand why they tired that,
Bc it’s no secret that we desperately need a 2nd line that can score regularly
But i don’t see anything to back your assumption that Skinner was signed strictly for that reason

Should’ve just left him with Jack
He was on pace for over 50goals before the injury,
wasn’t he?

- jdfitz77


$9M dollars says he should drive his own line.

$6M says I’m a complimentary player that can score 30 goals with a super star

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:11 PM ET
He will struggle defensively on any other line so he will be in and out of the lineup
- Camel


Olofsson who just scored 20goals in his 54gams rookie season will be “in & out of the lineup”
while u have Tage in his LW spot with 10goals in 107games

Makes tons of sense

Kids... this is why you don’t smoke crack
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
I don't have time for a pissing contest with you

I simple said to use vesey right

it's third line winger

it's second team pp

it's second team pk

- homiedclown


Boo freaking hoo Homie

18min a night is unrealistic for a 3rd liner
And blaming the coach for not putting him with a Center who can “dish the puck” when we didn’t have one is ridiculous
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:13 PM ET
What 3rd liner in the NHL gets 18min a night?
I’ll bet it’s EXTREMELY rare

Start looking up guys u think are good 3rd liners
Their icetime is more like 15min

- jdfitz77

https://www.espn.com/nhl/boxscore?gameId=401145433


kilron 18 minutes a night
jordan stall over 17.30 minutes a night
armia over 17 minutes a night
stepan close to 18 minutes a night
andrew copp close to 18 minutes a night
nyquist 18.02 a night



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
You watch Tampa Bay Lightning games, does Brayden Point not get PP goals from his position in the high slot in the umbrella formation ?

Or is Stammer, Hedman, Kucherov the only ones that score ?

- Pegullaville

a well run team doesn't use the same pp move for 40 games


the sabres are not a well run team


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:16 PM ET
2018-19 eichel was feeding skinner the puck on the pp

2019-20 eichel was feeding olofsson the puck on the pp

- homiedclown


Homie, Skinner only had 8 power play goals in 2018-2019 of his 40

11 out of 20 of Olofosson's goals this season were on the power
play

Really Skinner should have been playing with Eichel 5 on 5 this year

Special teams really killed this team this year especially PK

Skinner and Olofsson played much different positions on the PP

Olofsson was in his "office" as a shooter and Skinner was down low in front of the net a lot, it is where he scored a lot of his goals that season
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:16 PM ET
Boo freaking hoo Homie

18min a night is unrealistic for a 3rd liner
And blaming the coach for not putting him with a Center who can “dish the puck” when we didn’t have one is ridiculous

- jdfitz77

go pick on someone else

I have no time for people that pour small shots tonight


Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
$9M dollars says he should drive his own line.

$6M says I’m a complimentary player that can score 30 goals with a super star

- Pegullaville


You're right to a point

But there isn't a player in the league other than the top 10 players that can drive a line and be successful at it with the likes of players Skinner was playing with.

Skinner Eichel Olofsson

Try it out, move Sam to center (if it doesn't work play him on the wing)

Unless you get a true good second line center
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
All goals matter
- Pegullaville

Wasn’t it you that said something to the effect of “put me on Eichel’s wing and I’ll score X amount of goals”?

Put yourself on Eichel’s wing 5 on 4 and isn’t that the same premise?

They all count. They aren’t all indicative of the same amount of skill or being good hockey players
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:18 PM ET
Homie, Skinner only had 8 power play goals in 2018-2019 of his 40

11 out of 20 of Olofosson's goals this season were on the power
play

Really Skinner should have been playing with Eichel 5 on 5 this year

Special teams really killed this team this year especially PK

Skinner and Olofsson played much different positions on the PP

Olofsson was in his "office" as a shooter and Skinner was down low in front of the net a lot, it is where he scored a lot of his goals that season

- Stripes77

I agree

the first 30 or so games, the entire pp was setting up olofsson

it worked for the first 10 or so games


the year before, jack was able to be more creative on the pp


our pp was ranked 16th in 18-19
20th in 19-20
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:19 PM ET
$9M dollars says he should drive his own line.

$6M says I’m a complimentary player that can score 30 goals with a super star

- Pegullaville


The only winger i can think of that fits what you’re saying is when Pitt traded for Kessel & played him on line3
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Aug 1 @ 10:20 PM ET
Sometimes you have to take anecdotal evidence from wiser people than us. Skinner's previous team took a heap of crap to rid themselves of him, the most valuable part was a 2nd round pick that they took to rid themselves of him. He is a floater and not very structured on his line maybe that is why Jack scored more with OV and Skinner never went back on his line?

He scored 4 goals in his last 25 games the year before, he had his Drew Stafford like contract year completed and the money was all but in the bank.

You would think a player who signed for 9 million would command more than the most valuable piece going back being a 2nd round pick and I think we saw why last year. He averages 40+ pts a year. GMJB was had, taken, played.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Aug 1 @ 10:20 PM ET
go pick on someone else

I have no time for people that pour small shots tonight



- homiedclown


If you don’t want to be corrected,
don’t post things that are wrong

Sorry, not sorry
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 10:22 PM ET
Sometimes you have to take anecdotal evidence from wiser people than us. Skinner's previous team took a heap of crap to rid themselves of him, the most valuable part was a 2nd round pick that they took to rid themselves of him. He is a floater and not very structured on his line maybe that is why Jack scored more with OV and Skinner never went back on his line?

He scored 4 goals in his last 25 games the year before, he had his Drew Stafford like contract year completed and the money was all but in the bank.

You would think a player who signed for 9 million would command more than the most valuable piece going back being a 2nd round pick and I think we saw why last year. He averages 40+ pts a year. GMJB was had, taken, played.

- GilPerreault11

His contract is bad. Who’s arguing this?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 1 @ 10:22 PM ET
You're right to a point

But there isn't a player in the league other than the top 10 players that can drive a line and be successful at it with the likes of players Skinner was playing with.

Skinner Eichel Olofsson

Try it out, move Sam to center (if it doesn't work play him on the wing)

Unless you get a true good second line center

- Stripes77

putting skinner with johansson and sobotka is like putting reinhart between pouliot and griffith



if they wanted to split up skinner and jack

given the crap they had, should have been skinner, casey, and johansson for the second line

vesey-larsson-shearry for the third line


girgens-e-rod/sobotka-okposo



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