Jeremy Laura: Seider and Zadina officially assigned, Veleno isn’t

Coyle's not worth JV...Boston doesn't have a 1st that I saw, so makes no sense to work something out....but who knows....I just hate the thought of JV being traded straight up with no 1st coming back, at least.

Coyle's not worth JV...Boston doesn't have a 1st that I saw, so makes no sense to work something out....but who knows....I just hate the thought of JV being traded straight up with no 1st coming back, at least.
- mcmastermike1968

That’s completely fair and well put. There would have to be something else substantial. Well done!

Would Montour and a 2021 2nd get it done, or a 2021 1st without Montour.

Would Montour and a 2021 2nd get it done, or a 2021 1st without Montour.
Buff36

maybe Okposo, ($1M retained), 2020 1st, Hutton, Montour for Veleno and a 5th

Would Montour and a 2021 2nd get it done, or a 2021 1st without Montour.
- Buff36

I have no clue. It’s been tough to gauge Yzerman’s “wish list”. He has such a specific idea on the build. I think he’s looking closely for anyone to complement Seider and/or Hronek. I do get the feeling that he’s not afraid to consider moving many parts to get it right. Just my opinion

maybe Okposo, ($1M retained), 2020 1st, Hutton, Montour for Veleno and a 5th
- HenryHockey

I love Okposo. His injuries are terrifying though. His mental well being and family may force his hand at stepping down. He’s been through hell with head injuries. It sucks because he’s a really good guy and has a unique skill set.

maybe Okposo, ($1M retained), 2020 1st, Hutton, Montour for Veleno and a 5th
- HenryHockey

KO scares the bejesus out of me; Injuries derailed an potentially awesome career, and trust me; injuries like his don't age well.
I seriously cannot see moving a potentially crucial building block. That being said, if JV starts looking like a bust, there might be some wiggle-room to move him. But I think that decision could only be made after time in GR, and a call-up....

KO scares the bejesus out of me; Injuries derailed an potentially awesome career, and trust me; injuries like his don't age well.
I seriously cannot see moving a potentially crucial building block. That being said, if JV starts looking like a bust, there might be some wiggle-room to move him. But I think that decision could only be made after time in GR, and a call-up....
- mcmastermike1968

Absolutely. Unless Yzerman has another asset in mind with a similar projection JV would be tough to see go. Not impossible but very specific

KO scares the bejesus out of me; Injuries derailed an potentially awesome career, and trust me; injuries like his don't age well.
I seriously cannot see moving a potentially crucial building block. That being said, if JV starts looking like a bust, there might be some wiggle-room to move him. But I think that decision could only be made after time in GR, and a call-up....
- mcmastermike1968

Did not realize the extent of KO's injury history.

Revise that deal to: Okposo (retain $3M), BS 2020 1st, Hutton, Mountour and the Wings give Chowlowski and a 5th

Did not realize the extent of KO's injury history.

Revise that deal to: Okposo (retain $3M), BS 2020 1st, Hutton, Mountour and the Wings give Chowlowski and a 5th
- HenryHockey

He's had concussion issues amongst others. When he's on...wow.
The thing I would caution is trading away a potential franchise player (again, depending on how he develops...). From my seat, ANY deal for JV would involve a franchise player, protected 1st, incredible developmental talent. I like Hutton, would definitely fit in a needed slot, but he's 34...years are not his friend. Montour shows flashes of brilliance and is a VERY friendly cap hit....interesting you drifted away from BOS to cull assets from BUF; They do have some interesting talent!🤙

Absolutely. Unless Yzerman has another asset in mind with a similar projection, JV would be tough to see go. Not impossible but very specific
- Jeremy Laura

The Captain always holds his cards to his chest. That's yet another thing we Wings fans can be excited about; a shock move that makes us all go 😳😳😳.
I was just in Port Huron yesterday for my Granmother's funeral, drove by McMorran Place, old RW training camp site...drove down 75 past The District; Detroit's getting a much needed make-over, very refreshing to see. LCA has amazing facilities that would be a huge draw for a younger player looking for a "home". The Captain can sell those intangibles as well. The excitement is definitely palpable....

I wouldn't trade Veleno for guys close to 30 years old. Those are the type of guys you can just sign as UFAs as stop gaps until young players are ready to step in. Personally i wouldn't trade Veleno mainly because i don't think Rasmussen is a center in the NHL and the Wings don't really have much that projects as a good 2nd or 3rd line center aside from him.

If the Wings get a center with the 4th overall and/or someone else steps up at the center position, then i could see maybe trading Veleno for defense but i would be looking at younger defensemen like maybe Nurse or Werenski types (yes i know teams aren't looking to move those types of guys most of the time) even if it costs more than just Veleno. You want guys that will be in their prime when the Wings are ready to compete not on the downside of their career. That's just what i would do or be looking for if i was Yzerman...find another Sergachev type he can trade for.

I wouldn't trade Veleno for guys close to 30 years old. Those are the type of guys you can just sign as UFAs as stop gaps until young players are ready to step in. Personally i wouldn't trade Veleno mainly because i don't think Rasmussen is a center in the NHL and the Wings don't really have much that projects as a good 2nd or 3rd line center aside from him.

If the Wings get a center with the 4th overall and/or someone else steps up at the center position, then i could see maybe trading Veleno for defense but i would be looking at younger defensemen like maybe Nurse or Werenski types (yes i know teams aren't looking to move those types of guys most of the time) even if it costs more than just Veleno. You want guys that will be in their prime when the Wings are ready to compete not on the downside of their career. That's just what i would do or be looking for if i was Yzerman...find another Sergachev type he can trade for.
- dcz28

That’s a good take. There aren’t a ton of players that stay in the game past 30. Those who do have a crazy level of commitment and routines that get more stringent every year. 24-26 is sort of my “ideal” trade age. At that point, the player is showing who they are and if there is still more “ceiling”. and yes, there may be some “surprise” defensemen available this year. The flat cap pinch will be felt after the playoffs. Yzerman has a lot of cards he can play. Will be interesting

Greetings, Wings fans.

I'm a Sens guy, but I'm also a fan of the Wings. I own a Datsyuk jersey, as he's my favourite player of all time. And I've even been to a playoff game at The Joe (the series against Nashville when Weber smashed Zett's head against the boards).

I would really like to hear who you guys think you'll select with the 4th overall pick this year. Do you guys think you'll target a center like Rossi or Perfetti, a winger in Raymond, or do you think you'll look to improve your defensive depth and go after Drysdale or Sanderson?

I would love to hear what the fan base THINKS will happen, and also what you guys WANT to happen.

Thanks

Greetings, Wings fans.

I'm a Sens guy, but I'm also a fan of the Wings. I own a Datsyuk jersey, as he's my favourite player of all time. And I've even been to a playoff game at The Joe (the series against Nashville when Weber smashed Zett's head against the boards).

I would really like to hear who you guys think you'll select with the 4th overall pick this year. Do you guys think you'll target a center like Rossi or Perfetti, a winger in Raymond, or do you think you'll look to improve your defensive depth and go after Drysdale or Sanderson?

I would love to hear what the fan base THINKS will happen, and also what you guys WANT to happen.

Thanks
- PavohnDatsvares

There’s been a lot of speculation. Everything from Perfetti to Drysdale to trading down for Askarov. Nothing would surprise me at this point. Seider came out of the blue last year, could be another “off menu” selection. Welcome to the thread!!!

There’s been a lot of speculation. Everything from Perfetti to Drysdale to trading down for Askarov. Nothing would surprise me at this point. Seider came out of the blue last year, could be another “off menu” selection. Welcome to the thread!!!
- Jeremy Laura

Yeah, it's such a crazy draft year for MOST fan bases. The only sure things seem to be that Lafrenière will go first, then the next 2 should be Byfield and Stützle. I'm not sure who Blake and Robitaille prefer, but I can tell you Sens fans will be elated with either player.

I think the next tier of prospects, for most, is: Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti, Raymond (in no particular order). I think the first three I mentioned and 2 out of this group will definitely be the top 5. But after that it likely varies greatly from team to team depending on both positional need and team identity (ie. Some teams value speed over size or vice versa).

Personally I think you guys must be leaning towards Rossi/Perfetti or Drysdale. But maybe that's just a hunch or is influenced by what I've heard hockey media report.

Would the fan base be upset if Stevie traded down for a guy like Askarov, like you mentioned? Dropping from 1st to 4th in the draft must be tough enough. I'd reckon you guys would go nuts if you traded down to say 10th.

Greetings, Wings fans.

I'm a Sens guy, but I'm also a fan of the Wings. I own a Datsyuk jersey, as he's my favourite player of all time. And I've even been to a playoff game at The Joe (the series against Nashville when Weber smashed Zett's head against the boards).

I would really like to hear who you guys think you'll select with the 4th overall pick this year. Do you guys think you'll target a center like Rossi or Perfetti, a winger in Raymond, or do you think you'll look to improve your defensive depth and go after Drysdale or Sanderson?

I would love to hear what the fan base THINKS will happen, and also what you guys WANT to happen.

Thanks
- PavohnDatsvares

Drysdale for me. But the Wings never draft who I want.

Yeah, it's such a crazy draft year for MOST fan bases. The only sure things seem to be that Lafrenière will go first, then the next 2 should be Byfield and Stützle. I'm not sure who Blake and Robitaille prefer, but I can tell you Sens fans will be ela8ted with either player.

I think the next tier of prospects, for most, is: Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti, Raymond (in no particular order). I think the first three I mentioned and 2 out of this group will definitely be the top 5. But after that it likely varies greatly from team to team depending on both positional need and team identity (ie. Some teams value speed over size or vice versa).

Personally I think you guys must be leaning towards Rossi/Perfetti or Drysdale. But maybe that's just a hunch or is influenced by what I've heard hockey media report.

Would the fan base be upset if Stevie traded down for a guy like Askarov, like you mentioned? Dropping from 1st to 4th in the draft must be tough enough. I'd reckon you guys would go nuts if you traded down to say 10th.
- PavohnDatsvares

I just spoke with The Captain....Drysdale, Perfetti, or trade down for a solid young prospect, and Askarov.
Welcome to the blog! J runs a great blog and the folks here will blow you away with their wit, knowledge, and music references!

Drysdale for me. But the Wings never draft who I want.
- gergeswillems

Good call, G. I just posted as well, same choice....I called The Captain, he said he agrees with you 😁😁. Drysdale looks like a real stud. Would be an amazing asset to augment Mo S & Hronek, what a backline, huh?!?!?

Why in the hell would he trade Veleno, who's considered a "steal" in that draft?
Makes no sense whatsoever.

Drysdale for me. But the Wings never draft who I want.
- gergeswillems

That’s interesting, I pegged you as looking for a center. I do think there is a lot of talent, and I wouldn’t mind seeing Drysdale either. Ottawa and NJ both have 3 first rounders. This is going to be a crazy busy draft

I just spoke with The Captain....Drysdale, Perfetti, or trade down for a solid young prospect, and Askarov.
Welcome to the blog! J runs a great blog and the folks here will blow you away with their wit, knowledge, and music references!
- mcmastermike1968

Thanks MC! I do love this community

Why in the hell would he trade Veleno, who's considered a "steal" in that draft?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
- StargateSG1

It’s a long shot, for sure. I’d brought it up because Veleno wasn’t assigned to the Czech club along with Zadina, even though it had been negotiated. Yzerman would only move the kid if he saw a return that fit into his plan. It wouldn’t be surprising to see whoever picks 1st overall make an offer for JV (paired really well with Lafreniere). Mostly just some midsummer speculation to forget that it will be another 4 months until we see Detroit in a regular season game.

Yeah, it's such a crazy draft year for MOST fan bases. The only sure things seem to be that Lafrenière will go first, then the next 2 should be Byfield and Stützle. I'm not sure who Blake and Robitaille prefer, but I can tell you Sens fans will be elated with either player.

I think the next tier of prospects, for most, is: Drysdale, Rossi, Perfetti, Raymond (in no particular order). I think the first three I mentioned and 2 out of this group will definitely be the top 5. But after that it likely varies greatly from team to team depending on both positional need and team identity (ie. Some teams value speed over size or vice versa).

Personally I think you guys must be leaning towards Rossi/Perfetti or Drysdale. But maybe that's just a hunch or is influenced by what I've heard hockey media report.

Would the fan base be upset if Stevie traded down for a guy like Askarov, like you mentioned? Dropping from 1st to 4th in the draft must be tough enough. I'd reckon you guys would go nuts if you traded down to say 10th.
- PavohnDatsvares

The acquisition of Seider was met with some seriously mixed responses. However, once we saw what this kid could do, it made a ton of sense. Detroit’s goaltending is still a bit of a question mark. If Steve made the move to get Askarov, it would be obvious as to why. He turned a Kyle Quincey deal into a very good Goalie in TB, so he’s gotten a vote of confidence from that. Thanks for chiming in! Love the perspective