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Paul Stewart
Joined: 10.14.2013

Aug 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
Paul Stewart: The Stew: Hawerchuk, Milbury, Lindell Goal
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Aug 26 @ 6:41 PM ET
Did he deserve to lose his job specifically for that ill-considered remark about the Bubble?
- Paul Stewart


Did he lose his job though? He was taken off the air for the remainder of these playoffs, likely as a way to mitigate controversy. As far as I am aware, he hasn't been terminated by NBC. I'm sure he'll be back on the air to advocate bringing back head shots to start next season.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Aug 26 @ 10:52 PM ET
Nice story(s) about Howerchuk. Always respected his skill and class.

As far as Milbury goes, I’m with you Stewie. I never liked him. He is a Flyer hater, and said so publicly many times. I guess it goes back to the Flyers building the BroadStreeBullies team that terrorized the NHL for a few years during the early to mid 70’s. That being said, I’ve always been guided by what’s in a man’s heart. I believe we are all waaaaay to sensitive, and this cancel culture bullish!t has gotten out of hand! Did it come out right, no. Is it termination worthy, hell no!! And, I don’t even care for the guys work.

Thanks for throwing shade on the cancel culture Stewie. They could have used it as a teaching moment.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 26 @ 11:39 PM ET
As a kid someone told me about the great ‘chuck’ brothers in the NHL. Hawerchuk, Andreychuk and Malarchuck... RIP Hawerchuk.


As for Milbury, I think he’s a complete piece of garbage BUT of all the stupid crap to come out of his mouth, I don’t even think this should be a big deal. I mean happy he’s off the air but I think it’s idiotic to pretend women can’t distract boys from hockey. I’m not sure I’d give Mike the benefit of trying to make a greater point but either way, I don’t think it was a big deal.

Great stories as always from Stewie. Thanks!!!
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Aug 27 @ 7:02 AM ET
Paul Stewart: The Stew: Hawerchuk, Milbury, Lindell Goal
- Paul Stewart

Always a good read!
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Aug 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
As a kid someone told me about the great ‘chuck’ brothers in the NHL. Hawerchuk, Andreychuk and Malarchuck... RIP Hawerchuk.


As for Milbury, I think he’s a complete piece of garbage BUT of all the stupid crap to come out of his mouth, I don’t even think this should be a big deal. I mean happy he’s off the air but I think it’s idiotic to pretend women can’t distract boys from hockey. I’m not sure I’d give Mike the benefit of trying to make a greater point but either way, I don’t think it was a big deal.

Great stories as always from Stewie. Thanks!!!

- Queenie_5_hole


I totally agree . Be it wives, girlfriends, or potential girlfriends women tend attract and demand men's attention, which in this case would divide it from hockey. Anyone who gets upset with this either doesn't understand how men's minds work or is in denial of it (and women's minds, for that matter).

Milbury said much worse things during the NBC broadcast of the 2010 Olympics, when he described the Canadian team and "peeing" on the German team and then later described the Russian team as "Eurotrash". I suspect he was still bitter about Alexei Yashin helping to prove him the worst GM in the history of the league .
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Aug 28 @ 11:15 AM ET
Milbury was never a great player, coach, or GM.

His takes on issues are stupid and he's mind-bogglingly arrogant.

He should have been fired a long time ago. Not for being politically-incorrect, but for being a terrible excuse of an analyst and human being.

Good riddance.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 28 @ 8:37 PM ET
In a vacuum, Milbury didn't deserve to lose his job, or be suspended, or whatever will come out of it for basically saying "women, amirite?". Especially when everyone knew what he was saying, and that it's a fair point, but in proper Milbury fashion, picked the worst way to say it.

He should've been let go long ago due to his awful commentary, and other way worse derogatory things that he's vomited out; like calling the Russian players, Semin in particular IIRC, "Eurotrash".
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Aug 31 @ 4:56 PM ET
Milbury was never a great player, coach, or GM.
- GalacticStone


As a player Milbury was your average, run of the mill goon/tough guy. Although he is most famous for the shoe incident my favorite is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8urebKdh1bg
I have to give him credit for having the cajones to take on McSorley but it is very satisfying seeing McSorley's fist connecting with his face and KO'ing him in one hit.

As a coach he was mediocre. He did lead the 1991 Bruins to the conf finals, where the Pens beat them and I remember him going ballistic after the Samuelsson/Neely incident. He wasn't great as a coach but he wasn't terrible either (see Pierre McGuire for that).

As a GM Milbury was legendary - in bad way. When someone can compile your 15 worst moves into a list like this:
https://www.thesportster....p-15-worst-moves-as-a-gm/
you know you're bad. He is the worst GM in the history of the league. I suspect that the NBC camera crew regularly beats him in fantasy hockey.

And of course as an announcer he is bad. Although generally he is less biased than Eddie O he almost looked like he was going to break down in tears on the air when the Pens won the 2016 and 17 Cups .

And speaking of Pierre McGuire, I keep hoping that something will happen to get him off the air. Imagine being stuck in the bubble with him . I could just see him knocking on players' doors at midnight trying to get interviews.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 1 @ 7:36 AM ET
As a player Milbury was your average, run of the mill goon/tough guy. Although he is most famous for the shoe incident my favorite is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8urebKdh1bg
I have to give him credit for having the cajones to take on McSorley but it is very satisfying seeing McSorley's fist connecting with his face and KO'ing him in one hit.

As a coach he was mediocre. He did lead the 1991 Bruins to the conf finals, where the Pens beat them and I remember him going ballistic after the Samuelsson/Neely incident. He wasn't great as a coach but he wasn't terrible either (see Pierre McGuire for that).

As a GM Milbury was legendary - in bad way. When someone can compile your 15 worst moves into a list like this:
https://www.thesportster....p-15-worst-moves-as-a-gm/
you know you're bad. He is the worst GM in the history of the league. I suspect that the NBC camera crew regularly beats him in fantasy hockey.

And of course as an announcer he is bad. Although generally he is less biased than Eddie O he almost looked like he was going to break down in tears on the air when the Pens won the 2016 and 17 Cups .

And speaking of Pierre McGuire, I keep hoping that something will happen to get him off the air. Imagine being stuck in the bubble with him . I could just see him knocking on players' doors at midnight trying to get interviews.

- PghPens668771



I asked someone who played for the Bruins team that Milbury coached to the SCF in 1990 what he thought of Milbury as a coach. He didn't rip Milbury -- or really praise him, either. He said "We had a lot of talent and we were a pretty self-motivated team. Mike understood that."

As a player, Milbury deserved credit for how hard he worked to make himself into a regular on some very good Bruins teams. At least according to several who played against him, though, Milbury acted tough but was not... a guy whose penalty minutes largely came in 10s for continuing others' altercations or waiting until he was fresh and someone else was at the end of his shift before he challenged them to fight. That's per Stewy and Bob Kelly. They would know better than I, but Milbury was no doubt challenged a lot as an American in the NHL (there weren't many at that point) and as a yappy sort of player.

The shoe incident.... LOL.

As a GM, Milbury was a disaster on the Chernobyl scale.

As a broadcaster, Milbury isn't an analyst. He's an opinions guy. As such, he cherrypicks whatever in the game fits his pre-formed opinion and downplays ("we'll see if this keeps up") or just ignores what doesn't.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 1 @ 12:23 PM ET
I asked someone who played for the Bruins team that Milbury coached to the SCF in 1990 what he thought of Milbury as a coach. He didn't rip Milbury -- or really praise him, either. He said "We had a lot of talent and we were a pretty self-motivated team. Mike understood that."

As a player, Milbury deserved credit for how hard he worked to make himself into a regular on some very good Bruins teams. At least according to several who played against him, though, Milbury acted tough but was not... a guy whose penalty minutes largely came in 10s for continuing others' altercations or waiting until he was fresh and someone else was at the end of his shift before he challenged them to fight. That's per Stewy and Bob Kelly. They would know better than I, but Milbury was no doubt challenged a lot as an American in the NHL (there weren't many at that point) and as a yappy sort of player.

The shoe incident.... LOL.

As a GM, Milbury was a disaster on the Chernobyl scale.

As a broadcaster, Milbury isn't an analyst. He's an opinions guy. As such, he cherrypicks whatever in the game fits his pre-formed opinion and downplays ("we'll see if this keeps up") or just ignores what doesn't.

- bmeltzer


Excellent analysis Bill. Yeah, that is kind of what I suspected. Truthfully I was pretty young when Milbury was a player and don't remember much of his playing career.