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Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
for years buffalo had trouble scoring 5v5...

during skinner's eight years in carolina his 142 ev-goals was seventh in the league for those playing 500 or more games but his 1.08 goals/60 at 5v5 was third best trailing only stamkos (1.26) and nash (1.18)...

i get that he's not your cup of tea but he was a huge get to help the sabres biggest scoring weakness

- Michael Pachla


Not to mention, he put up crazy points with Jack. Was doing ok until Sobotka “the lynchpin” got hurt, then mojo got hurt. Yet Ralph never put Skinner back with Jack. Because “practice”. Heck even when Olofsson got hurt, you’d have thought, nows the time, slide Skinner up. Get him rolling. Nope, motivational soccer czar. Practice harder... forget last years 40 goals. That to me is still baffling.

Find a 2c or bring back the lynchpin, because it’s the “lean” move and let’s see what skinner has.

Olo. Jack. Samson.

Skinner. Sobotka. Tage. - the “lean” 2nd line

Or

Skinner. Henrique. Tage. - the “half lean” 2nd line.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 15 @ 5:24 PM ET
buffalo fans will never love him, not at $9m-per...they want certified angus beef but want to pay ponderosa prices and if they don't get it they b!tch and complain and nitpick the hell out of it
- Michael Pachla


Well played Michael.

Maybe
they over-paid by $1 million per year but I still like him on the Sabres. The Sabres need more Skinners (and Reinharts), not less.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 5:25 PM ET
You'll get Vladimir “lynchpin” Sobotka as 2C and you'll like it.
- RhinoFan


Fixed.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 15 @ 5:25 PM ET
Henrique would be a nice fit at #2C IMO. Slide Cozens into 3C and then flip next year - or sooner.

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 5:27 PM ET
Henrique would be a nice fit at #2C IMO. Slide Cozens into 3C and then flip next year - or sooner.
- SabreWest


Term is to long
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 5:28 PM ET
He'll bounce back this year with 35g or so and people will love him again.
- RhinoFan


I love him
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
Fixed.
- Gr8daygo




I'll cut someone.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
Letssssss Gooooo heat!!
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
I love him
- GERBE!!!75PTS


It's your most redeeming quality lol jk bud
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Sep 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
buffalo fans will never love him, not at $9m-per...they want certified angus beef but want to pay ponderosa prices and if they don't get it they b!tch and complain and nitpick the hell out of it
- Michael Pachla


I get the Buffalo fans thing but few see that many in the league didn't love him or his previous team even if he did his one strength of scoring even-strength when he is on. Sometimes you have to bring more to the table and on a regular basis.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 5:32 PM ET
Henrique would be a nice fit at #2C IMO. Slide Cozens into 3C and then flip next year - or sooner.
- SabreWest


Agree. I still like cozens starting on 3rw.

Kahun. Mojo. Cozens.

But all 3 play all positions on that line depending on situation and opponent.

I’d also slide Cozens Up to 2rw depending on situation and opponent. Especially if Tage slots in as 2rw.

Which is the internal cap move I expect. He’s not waiver eligible. He won’t be a 4rw, regardless of what shirtless photos gerbe has of him (not that there is anything wrong with that). It’s make or break, he either excels at 2/3rw or he gets traded... I doubt he had much value in the league. So let’s see what he’s got. Worse case, he’s the extra forward and sits in the press box.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 15 @ 5:32 PM ET
buffalo fans will never love him, not at $9m-per...they want certified angus beef but want to pay ponderosa prices and if they don't get it they b!tch and complain and nitpick the hell out of it
- Michael Pachla


Let's be honest though. $9m is pay for elite production.
We all debated his contract value that year and most were in the $8m+/- range even while he was on a 50G pace. Many of us stated that we would be ok at the top end of the range if they could land on a shorter Term contract length...around 5-6 years was desired....That isn't Ponderosa.

At $9m I'd expect production of around 75+ points, with 60% of them being G's.
It will be tough for him to hit that.

So of course people are going to female dog, he's overpaid by $1m at least. Producing at the rate he did last season makes Okposo a tremendous value.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 15 @ 5:33 PM ET
If my math is right, going off him signing at the 41 game mark for easy math (scoring half his points in that span) he would've had a career .63ppg average before contract and .93 after. It's a pretty big jump. He might have had the edge on Samson (career .71ppg), but not by a ton IMO.

I hope KA does. We need a few good deals on quality players to get the wheel back to turning here. I'm saying 6 years 39M and I'm happy.

- RhinoFan


Are you happy with that measure? Feels like comparing their production during their 2 year bridges is a better measure.

I think your AAV is about where this ends, but a little shorter term. Tough year to predict anything.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 5:33 PM ET
A Record of 19 missed Field goals and 5 extra points for the first week of the NFL

...

Yikes
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Sep 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
Well played Michael.

Maybe
they over-paid by $1 million per year but I still like him on the Sabres. The Sabres need more Skinners (and Reinharts), not less.

- SabreWest


No they don't. If they are going to go deep into the playoffs they need players with ability, heart, and size, grit, consistency and have a half-priced Skinner on the third line.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 5:39 PM ET
No they don't. If they are going to go deep into the playoffs they need players with ability, heart, and size, grit, consistency and have a half-priced Skinner on the third line.
- GilPerreault11


Skinner does play with that edge and heart you want to see. Especially in the playoffs. He’s not the biggest guy. But he’s tough to play against. Just look at the penalties he draws.

I like the player, maybe a bit over painf currently. Fix his line mates and he will be fine.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 15 @ 5:40 PM ET
Risto for Henrique.

Montour, Mojo, Mitts, 2021 first for Monahan And Giordano

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Kahun-Monahan-Reinhart
Olofsson-Henrique-Cozens
CJ Smith-Asplund-Okposo

Dahlin-Miller
McCabe-Joker
Giordano-Borgen

Ullmark
Hutton

That first line defensively would be pretty scary though.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Sep 15 @ 5:51 PM ET
No they don't. If they are going to go deep into the playoffs they need players with ability, heart, and size, grit, consistency and have a half-priced Skinner on the third line.
- GilPerreault11


I'm all for the attributes you mention, and happen to agree that they need to find guys with skill AND them.

Do we know what The Buffalo Sabres are?
Are they the:
-Swashbucklers of the 1970's
-Hardest Working Team of the late '90's
-Fast and Furious of 2005-2007
-Big, Tough and hard to play against direction of GMTM
-Fast, North-South image that GMJB spoke of (then filled the roster old guys who lost steps)
What is their identity?
What is their updated Organization Objective?
What are their Goals for 1, 3, 5 years?

Do they even have a Strategic plan, or are they shooting from the hip with no real course direction?

I really have no clue, and they haven't said a damn thing.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 5:56 PM ET
Risto for Henrique.

Montour, Mojo, Mitts, 2021 first for Monahan And Giordano

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Kahun-Monahan-Reinhart
Olofsson-Henrique-Cozens
CJ Smith-Asplund-Okposo

Dahlin-Miller
McCabe-Joker
Giordano-Borgen

Ullmark
Hutton

That first line defensively would be pretty scary though.

- Pegullaville


Yeah i usually agree with your line up but I hate it .. that just looks like a waste of money and cap hell

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 15 @ 6:09 PM ET
Report: Allen Robinson asks Bears to trade him


https://www.google.com/am...s-bears-to-trade-him/amp/
Leninthebuff
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.17.2012

Sep 15 @ 6:18 PM ET
Risto for Henrique.

Montour, Mojo, Mitts, 2021 first for Monahan And Giordano

Skinner-Eichel-Thompson
Kahun-Monahan-Reinhart
Olofsson-Henrique-Cozens
CJ Smith-Asplund-Okposo

Dahlin-Miller
McCabe-Joker
Giordano-Borgen

Ullmark
Hutton

That first line defensively would be pretty scary though.

- Pegullaville


Instead of Gio how about going after DeMelo to play with Dahlin?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 15 @ 6:22 PM ET
Kyle Stich from afpanalytics.com has a interesting take on what he thinks the Sabres should do. Looks to be a pretty good lineup.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 15 @ 6:23 PM ET
Instead of Gio how about going after DeMelo to play with Dahlin?
- Leninthebuff

DeMelo is gonna be in high demand I believe. Like him though.
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 15 @ 6:23 PM ET
Kyle Stich from afpanalytics.com has a interesting take on what he thinks the Sabres should. Looks to be a pretty good lineup.
- Buff36


What’s it look like?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 15 @ 6:25 PM ET
What’s it look like?
- Gr8daygo

I Am on my phone, it won't let me copy and paste it.
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