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Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
agreed
- navinrjohnson


Soccer czar disagrees. Skinner shall never play with jack. It’s in some soccer rule book I guess.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Sep 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
Hahahaha. I retract my statement
- Gr8daygo

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 2:52 PM ET
If the deal is pending who is available at 8 after the first 7 picks are made, would you still do it if Rossi was available at 8?

I'm not sure I would.

- kingcong39


Me neither. I think it’s wishful thinking Rossi makes it to 8. I would be over the moon though.

It would be total Buffalo for Rossi to fall to 8 and for us to still not take him, I would need a new TV if that happens
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 2:58 PM ET
Already did.

A. I don't deny the decline
B. The team as a whole declined.
C. He's still, quote, a very good player.

Bonus:
The people that write on that site are sub par intellectuals. When it comes to hockey.

- TheSabresTaco


You do realize that you’re on HOCKEYBUZZ right now... don’t you?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 3:03 PM ET
I’d hate to give up 8th OA for Monahan.

However if we can acquire him with a combination of other assets I wouldn’t mind it.

The trade proposal that started the Giordano talk was:

Montour, mojo, Mitts, 2021 first.

Monahan and Giordano

- Pegullaville


Trade for Matt Tkachuk instead
Then trade Eichel for Brady & their 3 first round picks

Gives us 3 picks in the top10
Then draft some centers & goal scorers,
and I’d like Askarov too
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
We should stop thinking about blockbuster trades because it’s apparent this team will make none.

They’ll move Montour for a middle six player and sign a bottom
6 player and that’s it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 3:06 PM ET
We should stop thinking about blockbuster trades because it’s apparent this team will make none.

They’ll move Montour for a middle six player and sign a bottom
6 player and that’s it.

- sbroads24


You’ve been depressing lately
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
You’ve been depressing lately
- jdfitz77

Honestly I am not expecting a thing.

I think with the internal budget were going to have more of the same as an on ice product next season
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Sep 16 @ 3:16 PM ET
We should stop thinking about blockbuster trades because it’s apparent this team will make none.

They’ll move Montour for a middle six player and sign a bottom
6 player and that’s it.

- sbroads24


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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:25 PM ET
Larry extended for 8 years for Monahan straight up
- jcragcrumple


So a 2C swap then essentially?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
Honestly I am not expecting a thing.

I think with the internal budget were going to have more of the same as an on ice product next season

- sbroads24


I worry you're right. I can't see a $72M team competing for anything. Just another lottery year.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:31 PM ET
I worry you're right. I can't see a $72M team competing for anything. Just another lottery year.
- RhinoFan


Unless your Carolina last year.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:31 PM ET
Trade for Matt Tkachuk instead
Then trade Eichel for Brady & their 3 first round picks

Gives us 3 picks in the top10
Then draft some centers & goal scorers,
and I’d like Askarov too

- jdfitz77



I think tkchak the 3 and 5 would make us. Better team than just keeping Eichel imo but others will disagree.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:33 PM ET
Unless your Carolina last year.
- Pegullaville


Should've prefaced, with OUR* 72m team lol

There's some competitive teams with internal caps, but not many with $6M 4th liners...
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:35 PM ET
Should've prefaced, with OUR* 72m team lol

There's some competitive teams with internal caps, but not many with $6M 4th liners...

- RhinoFan


I’m agreeing with you. Carolina last year was a unicorn.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 16 @ 3:38 PM ET
I worry you're right. I can't see a $72M team competing for anything. Just another lottery year.
- RhinoFan


Every nhl team will be making these type of decisions ..

But will see if its buffalo beacuse I don't think its true ..
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:40 PM ET
I’m agreeing with you. Carolina last year was a unicorn.
- Pegullaville


Ahhh, get it. Misread.

I was surprised to hear Dallas only spent 76M last season and San Jose 72M. Need some good players on ELCs and to not overpay for middle6 scoring.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
Every nhl team will be making these type of decisions ..

But will see if its buffalo beacuse I don't think its true ..

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I'd like to think it isn't true, but there's been a lot of smoke about it. Where there's smoke there's fire and all that.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Sep 16 @ 3:47 PM ET
I'll wait for us to sign homeless Thornton for the 3rd line
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Sep 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
Every nhl team will be making these type of decisions ..

But will see if its buffalo beacuse I don't think its true ..

- GERBE!!!75PTS

The energy industry took a beating through the covid shutdown, I don’t know if “Just drill another well” applies right now. But, as you say, we’ll see...
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:58 PM ET
Ahhh, get it. Misread.

I was surprised to hear Dallas only spent 76M last season and San Jose 72M. Need some good players on ELCs and to not overpay for middle6 scoring.

- RhinoFan


Having players on ELC is mandatory in the normal world.

Will be even more so with the internal cap.

That’s why I believe keeping the pick is important.

First of all we should get a really good forward prospect this year at 8 that would otherwise go in the top 5 in the past few drafts.

Second of all that player will most likely be able to contribute, even if it’s a depth role, as early as the 2021-2022 season if not sooner depending on when we start the 2020-2021 NHL season.

Adams should be able to swing some deals to make us competitive for our one year run here to make the playoffs to keep Jack happy. Hopefully Cozens and this years pick hit their potential and we become downright dangerous for the rest of the decade.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:03 PM ET
Having players on ELC is mandatory in the normal world.

Will be even more so with the internal cap.

That’s why I believe keeping the pick is important.

First of all we should get a really good forward prospect this year at 8 that would otherwise go in the top 5 in the past few drafts.

Second of all that player will most likely be able to contribute, even if it’s a depth role, as early as the 2021-2022 season if not sooner depending on when we start the 2020-2021 NHL season.

Adams should be able to swing some deals to make us competitive for our one year run here to make the playoffs to keep Jack happy. Hopefully Cozens and this years pick hit their potential and we become downright dangerous for the rest of the decade.

- Pegullaville


It's a good argument for keeping it for sure. I go back and forth daily it seems.

Question though: if the choice was dealing 8 OR making the playoffs, which do you pick? In other words, if Monahan got us over the hump, but it cost 8, without him we're sunk, do you pull the trigger?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:24 PM ET
We should stop thinking about blockbuster trades because it’s apparent this team will make none.

They’ll move Montour for a middle six player and sign a bottom
6 player and that’s it.

- sbroads24


So you think they are going to completely ignore the potentially looming Eichel trade request and just continue doing more of the same?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 16 @ 4:29 PM ET
So you think they are going to completely ignore the potentially looming Eichel trade request and just continue doing more of the same?
- kingcong39

At this point? Yeah.

Here’s the last few days/week of reports

-Budget team in low 70’s
- Ristolainen is staying.

If you are hopeful that Mittelstadt is used as a chip to get a player, I wouldn’t get your hopes up because he will be very cheap to have on the roster

So I’ll expect Montour to go, Reinhart to sign a very short term deal and almost nothing changes
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
At this point? Yeah.

Here’s the last few days/week of reports

-Budget team in low 70’s
- Ristolainen is staying.

If you are hopeful that Mittelstadt is used as a chip to get a player, I wouldn’t get your hopes up because he will be very cheap to have on the roster

So I’ll expect Montour to go, Reinhart to sign a very short term deal and almost nothing changes

- sbroads24


Then plan the Eichel trade at the deadline or next offseason?
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