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YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 16 @ 2:14 PM ET
UFAs

Would be awesome but cost too much or not the right fit
Pietrangelo
Barrie
Krug
Brodie
Dadonov


Could be good but too much $$ for what they bring
Craig Smith
Granlund
Gudas
Dillon
Fast
Shattenkirk
Pearson (looks to be re-signed by VAN... boy did we give up on him too early)


Realistic but not worth pursuing IMHO
Haula
Tanev
Larsson
Gustafsson



Crazy risk/reward
Byfuglien
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 16 @ 2:16 PM ET
There is straight up no point in investing in a 3RD. That 3RD is just going to be paired with Johnson and the pairing will suck regardless. Just throwing money down the Jack Johnson pit.
- Victoro311


Very true. GMJR obviously has his eye on someone in FA.... just trying to think of who it could be. Not necessarily who it should be.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 2:23 PM ET
UFAs

Would be awesome but cost too much or not the right fit
Pietrangelo
Barrie
Krug
Brodie
Dadonov


Could be good but too much $$ for what they bring
Craig Smith
Granlund
Gudas
Dillon
Fast
Shattenkirk
Toffoli (looks to be re-signed by VAN... boy did we give up on him too early)


Realistic but not worth pursuing IMHO
Haula
Tanev
Larsson
Gustafsson



Crazy risk/reward
Byfuglien

- YouMeAndDupuis9


How did we give up on Toffoli if we never had him?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
How did we give up on Toffoli if we never had him?
- j.boyd919

We went after him before landing on Zucker. That or he's talking about Pearson.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 16 @ 2:34 PM ET
How did we give up on Toffoli if we never had him?
- j.boyd919


Haha yeah.... meant Pearson.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Sep 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
Haha yeah.... meant Pearson.
- YouMeAndDupuis9



...EDITS should not change the original comment...to me checking 4 minutes late, it looks like boyd was just being a douche, (frank)ing with your comment...
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
...EDITS should not change the original comment...to me checking 4 minutes late, it looks like boyd was just being a douche, (frank)ing with your comment...
- joecool2931


Hey now. Don’t get me wrong. I’m usually a douche. But this time I was not hahaha.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 16 @ 2:56 PM ET
Kind of but mostly I am just stupid. In my head Krug is playing for the Pens this year apparently.
- MacPatty

For me too lol I keep thinking about Krug taking Schultz' spot on the roster and Joseph taking Jacko's.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 16 @ 3:04 PM ET
Anyone have access to the PG? Vensel put out a piece about 10 center possibilities.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 3:14 PM ET
For me too lol I keep thinking about Krug taking Schultz' spot on the roster and Joseph taking Jacko's.
- Barnaby36


Krug is a lefty, top 4 D so he’d be taking either Dumo or Petterson’s spot.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 16 @ 3:22 PM ET
Krug is a lefty, top 4 D so he’d be taking either Dumo or Petterson’s spot.
- j.boyd919

Barnaby has never once discussed the blue line with accurate sidedness for as long as I’ve been here.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
Anyone have access to the PG? Vensel put out a piece about 10 center possibilities.
- Rinosaur



aside from internal candidates...he named
danault
domi
soderberg
brad richardson??
tomas nosek
chris tierny
jason spezza


yikes.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
aside from internal candidates...he named
danault
domi
soderberg
brad richardson??
tomas nosek
chris tierny
jason spezza


yikes.

- YouMeAndDupuis9

So basically two guys we don’t have enough assets to trade for and a whole lotta poop. Rutherfords really gonna have to pull something out of his ass here.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 16 @ 3:45 PM ET
aside from internal candidates...he named
danault
domi
soderberg
brad richardson??
tomas nosek
chris tierny
jason spezza


yikes.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Thanks. Remember I said recently Tierny is a JR move. He liked him a lot a couple of years ago and we know how he his when he fixates on a player.
joecool2931
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rillton, PA
Joined: 09.03.2015

Sep 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
Krug is a lefty, top 4 D so he’d be taking either Dumo or Petterson’s spot.
- j.boyd919


I am quite alright with him taking the 2LD spot, with Marino. I am also alright with paying a 3LD 4M if it means JJ is out of our hair.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:28 PM ET
The JR signing this year will be Tanev. I'm 100% confident in that. He did the family thing with the Staals in Carolina, it will happen again.

Recall him mentioning adding a 3 RD? I just hope they get him at a discount.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Sep 16 @ 4:30 PM ET
For me too lol I keep thinking about Krug taking Schultz' spot on the roster and Joseph taking Jacko's.
- Barnaby36


Yeah, Dumo-Letang and Krug-Marino would be top notch. Everyone used to make comments about getting Geno a winger, how about getting him a D pair that can attack?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
I am quite alright with him taking the 2LD spot, with Marino. I am also alright with paying a 3LD 4M if it means JJ is out of our hair.
- joecool2931


Oh I agree with all of that hahah Pettersson-Ruhwedel would be Fine by me.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 16 @ 4:38 PM ET
There is straight up no point in investing in a 3RD. That 3RD is just going to be paired with Johnson and the pairing will suck regardless. Just throwing money down the Jack Johnson pit.
- Victoro311

My only hope that JJ is replaced is if POJ overtakes him. But if they don't get a RD, I fear they'll just move JJ to the right side.

Which means we're both thinking more of the effect on JJ than the actual merits of adding a RD. (I know you're not a fan of paying bottom pair D and I only want to go bargain hunting anyways.)
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Sep 16 @ 4:46 PM ET
Yeah, Dumo-Letang and Krug-Marino would be top notch. Everyone used to make comments about getting Geno a winger, how about getting him a D pair that can attack?
- MacPatty

Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Sep 16 @ 4:56 PM ET
My only hope that JJ is replaced is if POJ overtakes him. But if they don't get a RD, I fear they'll just move JJ to the right side.

Which means we're both thinking more of the effect on JJ than the actual merits of adding a RD. (I know you're not a fan of paying bottom pair D and I only want to go bargain hunting anyways.)

- Tojo.

I think something is going on with JJ because of the re-signing of Riikola taking into account how close POJ appears to be in making the jump. There is also the salary crunch. I think JJ gets traded with a sweetener and 50% retained. I think a rebuilding team would take him with a 3rd attached and 50% retained. Maybe a 2nd is needed. So be it.

You could be right about JJ moving to the right side if they strike out in FA and trades, but I think this last playoffs was proof positive (as if it was needed) that JJ cannot be in the lineup. It has become glaringly obvious even to the biggest JJ apologist, which JR seems to be (along with his ego).
jmy_1
Joined: 01.30.2014

Sep 16 @ 5:46 PM ET
E Staal traded to Buffalo. interesting
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Sep 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
E Staal traded to Buffalo. interesting
- jmy_1

Per Friedman: "It is a straight-up trade: Johansson for Staal."

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck! Come on, JR!

I really don't understand this trade for either side but BUF definitely came out ahead if it is just straight up. I have no idea what Guerin is thinking. I guess I understand it from BUF's side if they are looking to flip him, which they should (probably to the Pens for an overpayment).
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 16 @ 6:12 PM ET
Per Friedman: "It is a straight-up trade: Johansson for Staal."

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck! Come on, JR!

I really don't understand this trade for either side but BUF definitely came out ahead if it is just straight up. I have no idea what Guerin is thinking. I guess I understand it from BUF's side if they are looking to flip him, which they should (probably to the Pens for an overpayment).

- Hockey66

So the Sabers got Eric Staal for an underwhelming, oft-injured center/wing at a $4+ mil cap hit, and we got a fake draft pick plus had to retain for an underwhelming, oft-injured center/wing at a $4+ mil cap hit. MoJo is better than Bjugstad but I have to imagine we could have figured out something for Staal involving Bjugstad if we wanted to. Not that Staal is great solution to our 3C problem, but a tangible solution is better than $2 mil in cap space given how awful the UFA Pool is and how few valuable assets we have to acquire a 3C vía trade.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 16 @ 6:18 PM ET
So the Sabers got Eric Staal for an underwhelming, oft-injured center/wing at a $4+ mil cap hit, and we got a fake draft pick plus had to retain for an underwhelming, oft-injured center/wing at a $4+ mil cap hit. MoJo is better than Bjugstad but I have to imagine we could have figured out something for Staal involving Bjugstad if we wanted to. Not that Staal is great solution to our 3C problem, but a tangible solution is better than $2 mil in cap space given how awful the UFA Pool is and how few valuable assets we have to acquire a 3C vía trade.
- Victoro311


Maybe Buffalo moves him again... For Murray.
. But yeah, Bjugs + for Staal would of been fine with me.
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