that's a complete appropriate approach to these new vaccines, and political pressure to push any covid-vaccine is potentially endagering vaccine acceptance in general. a very bad development, and high-risk strategy.

my decision framework for me and my family: vaccines that would be safe(st) to receive (and assuming some form of protection against at least severe disease), and that look promising atm are:

1/ BCG vaccine (have to look at BCG strain though) -- from Q2 2021 onwards
2/ any other existing vaccine that would show to elicit non-specific immunity -- from Q2/Q3 onwards
3/ any other vaccine that will come 'out of the blue' (not mentioned now as any of the 'front-runners') that will show good results end 2021 -- from Q1 2022 onwards
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...
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4/ Sputnik V - Gam-COVID-Vac -- from Q3 2021 onwards
5/ Curevac mRNA Covid-vaccine -- from Q3 2021 onwards
6/ J&J ad26.cov2.s -- from Q3 2021 onwards
7/ other current frontrunners (e.g. GSK/Sanofi; Moderna; Sinovac; Cansino, Clover, Merck, Inovio, Pfizer) -- from Q3 2021 onwards

in other words; very unlikely we'll be able to roll out a reliable vaccine that would be protect and safe before Sept 2021.
- MaximusAurelius

I haven’t reason to assume the Canadian government would politically intervene in the approval processes here. I’d take something that was approved in Canada.

This may sound incredibly selfish, but I wish the scientific community would quit focusing on a COVID-19 vaccine, and instead dedicate their efforts to finding a cure for Muzzin's life-ending injury.
- Atomic Wedgie

Some things are just incurable. This and Buffalo's Jorts Syndrome are plagues upon this earth

Idk man, it was a joke.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

My mistake.

A few days after the Stanley Cup is awarded, I'll do a new thread where everyone can evaluate their picks.

Anyone know if I can get this on the main page?
- Atomic Wedgie

Hey Mr. Augello, could you assist some long time Leafs fans with this?

Muchas gracias

Perry, Spezza, Thornton 4th line
- Zezel

the molasses line

the molasses line



- dmnted

So sweet

it's those Mexican jumping beans .... man.
- dmnted

Harvest season.... starting soon.

the molasses line



- dmnted

They can transition from being the Leafs 4th line into doing Sonnet commercials

That is selfish, but it is a need.. We need to bring Muzzin back to life
- PatC80

he'll be a frankenmuzzin

Perry, Spezza, Thornton 4th line
- Zezel

The



Line!

They can transition from being the Leafs 4th line into doing Sonnet commercials
- Arctic_AARDVARK

He get’s paid the type of money where he should be driving a line, but he can’t.

He can’t really do anything other than go to the net and get sloppy goals. Which I’ll admit, he’s become pretty good at.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I disagree, he is not paid to 'drive a line'.. Marner/Matthews/Tavares get paid the type of money to drive a line..

The



Line!
- AdamFrench

The raccoon staring at syrup dripping slowly line? Doesn't really roll off the tongue...

The raccoon staring at syrup dripping slowly line? Doesn't really roll off the tongue...
- PatC80

Thornton could play third line. You don’t need to be fast with that passing skill.

Maybe not a good idea.. I feel as though, I will get ridiculed constantly because I assumed Hutch would be average
- PatC80

Ummmmm....


....so did I.

I haven’t reason to assume the Canadian government would politically intervene in the approval processes here. I’d take something that was approved in Canada.
- Canada Cup

well if you cant trust Patty and Teresa to make the right call...who can you trust

well if you cant trust Patty and Teresa to make the right call...who can you trust
- drexel

They don’t approve new drugs. Information is cool.

They don’t approve new drugs. Information is cool.
- Canada Cup

true. their chairman does

Ummmmm....


....so did I.
- Atomic Wedgie

we're both screwed

I haven’t reason to assume the Canadian government would politically intervene in the approval processes here. I’d take something that was approved in Canada.
- Canada Cup

If I understand it right, Canadian gov't has deals in place with Moderna (Canadian company) and Pfizer.
There will obviously be an incredible amount of pressure on governments to 'take the first to market vaccine'.
My point is that any vaccine without at least 12months of clinical trial follow up (on both safety as well as potential protection) would be pushed politically, and not based on mere standard scientific processes around vaccine development.

The reason why BCG is #1 on my list because it has a 100+ year safety track record, and there are some solid scientific studies that back a potential non-specific immunity effect of BCG (against other pathogens). Various BCG - Covid trials have started in March to June 2020, and Sept-Dec will be an important period (since more cases are expected). In March-April first results could be expected - and although there might be a very limited effect (20-30% reduction in severe covid-disease cases) I would very much prefer to take the BCG vaccine over a vaccine that has less than a year of safety results.

Thornton could play third line. You don’t need to be fast with that passing skill.
- Canada Cup

Sure, why not.. Also, no, he can't..

They don’t approve new drugs. Information is cool.
- Canada Cup

Mid-September is cooler than mid-August, yet I don't see you libtards admitting the Trump was right about global warming being a hoax.

Don't copy the blueprints of these final 4 teams. I think only Tampa is great. THe other 3 wqill regress.
- RogerRoeper

Roger, is this you??

we're both screwed
- PatC80

I did pick Tampa to win the Cup!

Of course, I said that they would meet San Jose in the final.

Yeah, not sure what I was thinking there.

To be perfectly honest, the last couple of years have been a bit hectic for Wedgie. It's very rare that I watch a non-Leafs game, and almost never a Western Conference game.

I really know nothing about nothing outside of the Leafs these days.

Mid-September is cooler than mid-August, yet I don't see you libtards admitting the Trump was right about global warming being a hoax.
- Atomic Wedgie

Forest management. That is all.