Forest management. That is all.
- Canada Cup

well dont forget the arson component

You can't answer the question, can you? You named attributes 3 out of 4 remaining teams lack.

Oh and I picked Dallas in the finals.
- RogerRoeper

virtually every key player on the stars is 30 or under, so in their prime or not yet reached it. only players above 30 are perry, radulov, and pavelski

vegas is the same, only key player over 30 is statsny

isles are also the same

all 3 teams have young superstars, and a poop ton of players right in their primes (26-30). all three teams have a lot of depth, great balance between F and D.

like I said......there is a reason that your opinions are almost universally mocked on this site.

hintz is clutch with....2 goals in 21 games
- senstroll

It's his off-ice Finniship that a soft as slime Swinn like Melander just doesn't have.

virtually every key player on the stars is 30 or under, so in their prime or not yet reached it. only players above 30 are perry, radulov, and pavelski

vegas is the same, only key player over 30 is statsny

isles are also the same

all 3 teams have young superstars, and a poop ton of players right in their primes (26-30). all three teams have a lot of depth, great balance between F and D.

like I said......there is a reason that your opinions are almost universally mocked on this site.
- haywoodjablome

Jamie Benn, both goalies are in their 30's. Radulov, Pavelski, Perry...

The stats show they are an aging team. You know this. Islanders, Stars and Vegas were 3 of the oldest teams in the bubble.

Every organization will have some good young players. Do you really think there's enough on the Islanders?

https://twitter.com/repor...88098708463276032/photo/1


But the Leafs are a huge mess with no future, right? The final 4 teams all rank in the top 8 of oldest teams Although I do like Tampa going forward. So many good assets they can move to clear cap space.

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1288098708463276032/photo/1


But the Leafs are a huge mess with no future, right? The final 4 teams all rank in the top 8 of oldest teams Although I do like Tampa going forward. So many good assets they can move to clear cap space.
- RogerRoeper

final 4 teams in playoffs are in top8 of oldest teams.
in other words -- seems that 'youth' has no correlation to playoff success.
yet, you still want to make some sort of argument to how toronto (a team that didn't make the playoffs) is better than vegas, nyi, dallas -- three teams with actual success in this year's playoffs (and vegas, dallas, tampa were all esteemed to go far at start of this season).

what are you trying to say here??

average age of teams probably doesn't have a lot to do with potential playoff success.

final 4 teams in playoffs are in top8 of oldest teams.
in other words -- seems that 'youth' has no correlation to playoff success.
yet, you still want to make some sort of argument to how toronto (a team that didn't make the playoffs) is better than vegas, nyi, dallas -- three teams with actual success in this year's playoffs (and vegas, dallas, tampa were all esteemed to go far at start of this season).

what are you trying to say here??

average age of teams probably doesn't have a lot to do with potential playoff success.
- MaximusAurelius

When did I say Toronto is "Better"?
It's taken Dallas quite a long time with a veteran team to get here.

The "Youth" on Toronto is elite.

well dont forget the arson component
- drexel

well dont forget the arson component
- drexel

Nope, that’s horrific. Looks like one of the 100 or so fires was started by a meth dealer. Some other looney started a bunch by the side of the road but they were put out.

Record drought, wind and heat make any fire, no matter how started that much worse but that involves science.

- TheMussel

Maybe planes could drop bleach on the fires. Someone should look into this.

I think Toronto needs to spend 5.5 on Leo Komorov and Matt Martin to bring a winning culture...

When did I say Toronto is "Better"?
It's taken Dallas quite a long time with a veteran team to get here.
- RogerRoeper

you said "Don't copy the blueprints of these final 4 teams. I think only Tampa is great. THe other 3 will regress."

Then you proceed to talk about the great future of the Toronto team, and again piss on the NYI post-season success.

Of course teams will regress over time - but if you had actually watched Dallas play some games, you see that it's the combination of great younger players (starting with their defensemen, in particular Heiskanen) and older guys (Benn, Radulov, Pavelski, Khudobin) that are the key to this success. It's a great team without any weaknesses - and built for playoffs.

If there are two teams Leafs management should look at as for blueprint for playoff success, it's Vegas and Dallas.

Watching Dallas closely had made me realize that Hintz is better than Nylander. Someone in here was saying that if I recall correctly.
- DrunkenCanuck

Better in what way.
Cause scoring....nope he is not.

well dont forget the arson component
- drexel

ah yes, the reveal by those two facking stupid future parents.

you said "Don't copy the blueprints of these final 4 teams. I think only Tampa is great. THe other 3 will regress."

Then you proceed to talk about the great future of the Toronto team, and again piss on the NYI post-season success.

Of course teams will regress over time - but if you had actually watched Dallas play some games, you see that it's the combination of great younger players (starting with their defensemen, in particular Heiskanen) and older guys (Benn, Radulov, Pavelski, Khudobin) that are the key to this success. It's a great team without any weaknesses - and built for playoffs.

If there are two teams Leafs management should look at as for blueprint for playoff success, it's Vegas and Dallas.
- MaximusAurelius

It's a good but not great team that has a goaltender on an incredible run.

you said "Don't copy the blueprints of these final 4 teams. I think only Tampa is great. THe other 3 will regress."

Then you proceed to talk about the great future of the Toronto team, and again piss on the NYI post-season success.

Of course teams will regress over time - but if you had actually watched Dallas play some games, you see that it's the combination of great younger players (starting with their defensemen, in particular Heiskanen) and older guys (Benn, Radulov, Pavelski, Khudobin) that are the key to this success. It's a great team without any weaknesses - and built for playoffs.

If there are two teams Leafs management should look at as for blueprint for playoff success, it's Vegas and Dallas.
- MaximusAurelius

Dallas is a veteran team that is having playoff success for the first real time this year. What does that tell you?
I do fully expect at the very least Vegas and Islanders to regress next year. I'm not sure why that's a controversial opinion. There's usually different teams in the final 4 every year. None of these 4 were there last year...
Leafs have elite young talent and are still very young. The idea people have given-up on them is absurd.

And sorry, you're saying Leafs should copy what has happened to Vegas? You can't be serious.

When did I say Toronto is "Better"?
It's taken Dallas quite a long time with a veteran team to get here.

The "Youth" on Toronto is elite.
- RogerRoeper

Marner and Matthews - that's about it as for "elite" category players on the Leafs.

Dallas has Heiskanen in that category.

The difference is that Leafs have mediocre guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot on the 2nd/3rd line, while Dallas has Richardinson, Cogliano, Comeau, Perry, etc. on their bottom half -- and apart from Rielly, none of Leafs defensemen would make the Dallas top4 D lines.

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1288098708463276032/photo/1


But the Leafs are a huge mess with no future, right? The final 4 teams all rank in the top 8 of oldest teams Although I do like Tampa going forward. So many good assets they can move to clear cap space.
- RogerRoeper

cool, teams age.
Hopefully by the time this leaf team gets to same age group as them, they will have seen the 2nd round or have been lucky enough to get to the conf finals.

When did I say Toronto is "Better"?
It's taken Dallas quite a long time with a veteran team to get here.

The "Youth" on Toronto is elite.
- RogerRoeper

elite yes.
Too good for the playoffs.

Marner and Matthews - that's about it as for "elite" category players on the Leafs.

Dallas has Heiskanen in that category.

The difference is that Leafs have mediocre guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot on the 2nd/3rd line, while Dallas has Richardinson, Cogliano, Comeau, Perry, etc. on their bottom half -- and apart from Rielly, none of Leafs defensemen would make the Dallas top4 D lines.
- MaximusAurelius

Do you know how easy it is to get those players? The most daunting part is finding the elite talent. Leafs have that.

Oh my it's so hard to find a Corey Perry!!!

Leafs just got the Pens top prospect and 15th overall pick for a guy on their 3rd line. LOL. But please, go on about signing Corey Perry and how bad Leafs 3rd line is...

Dubas is about to use some of those assets from his "Crappy" 3rd liner to address other areas to make the team better.

final 4 teams in playoffs are in top8 of oldest teams.
in other words -- seems that 'youth' has no correlation to playoff success.
yet, you still want to make some sort of argument to how toronto (a team that didn't make the playoffs) is better than vegas, nyi, dallas -- three teams with actual success in this year's playoffs (and vegas, dallas, tampa were all esteemed to go far at start of this season).

what are you trying to say here??

average age of teams probably doesn't have a lot to do with potential playoff success.
- MaximusAurelius

hmm seems like you are so close to something here

Marner and Matthews - that's about it as for "elite" category players on the Leafs.

Dallas has Heiskanen in that category.

The difference is that Leafs have mediocre guys like Johnsson and Kerfoot on the 2nd/3rd line, while Dallas has Richardinson, Cogliano, Comeau, Perry, etc. on their bottom half -- and apart from Rielly, none of Leafs defensemen would make the Dallas top4 D lines.
- MaximusAurelius

umm perry isnt a great example.
Had like 21pts this season
Same as johnsson and less than kerfoot.

Ya i get, more to hockey than pts.

Maybe planes could drop bleach on the fires. Someone should look into this.
- Canada Cup

Lol..

They’re only finding more fires because they’re doing more fire testing.

Lehner out goalied by a backup 🤦🏻

umm perry isnt a great example.
Had like 21pts this season
Same as johnsson and less than kerfoot.

Ya i get, more to hockey than pts.
- Fakepartofme

It's a dumb argument seeing what 3rd liner Kapanen brought back in a trade and the production 700K Spezza got.

Those bargain bin veterans are so easy to sign. Remember when our biggest worry was not having a #1 C?