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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:13 PM ET

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Sep 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
Do you actually watch any hockey outside of Leafs?

Dallas success is based on a terrific defense, and on 4 good forward lines, with guys that all contribute and can all play against toplines of opposing teams.

Leafs D is mediocre, Dubas underestimated for over a year the value of a good goalie tandem, and he's bet on very mediocre FWs (Kerfoot, Johnsson, Nylander) that aren't coming through in playoffs.

The Johnsson contract is worse than Marleau's deal by Lou - Johnsson is a 3rd/4th line guy, while Marleau actually played well his first seasons.

- MaximusAurelius


Each year we talk about following the Stanley Cup finalists/winners blueprint. I don't buy that bs for a second. Last year they were a one line team with little to no secondary scoring.

Carolina took our first rounder this year just so we could offload Marleau's contract, they then bought out Marleau.

Johnsson is young, cost controlled and can play up and down the top 3 lines (but is best suited as a 3rd liner). How exactly is that worse than Marleau?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 1:14 PM ET
oh and Hallander isn't a 'top end' talent.
he might pan out, or he might not even make it to NHL.
saying it's a 'great deal' (or even "pittsburgh got fleeced!") is such a Dubas-fanboy statement..

- MaximusAurelius



most non leaf fans were surprised the Leafs got so much for Kap, a lot of the talk I saw people didnt think they should get the 15th pick alone.

again, lots and lots of non leaf fans. Getting another decent prospect on top is very good imo

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 15 @ 1:14 PM ET

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
The analytics guys are getting dunked on rn.

I don’t think it’s what teams are looking for now, 2-3 years ago sure.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


We’d get a good haul for Nylander. I think you’re wrong there. I’m not his biggest fan but there’s lots of GM’s that would get “tractor beamed” by his beauty.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
I am most certainly not calling you a troll, aardsie.
- Atomic Wedgie

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
Seguin’s comments last night were refreshing. The majority of players don’t give a (frank) about analytics. It’s an dying fad.
- DrunkenCanuck



BUT, But, but ... How will fans that don't actually watch,,, know who the best players are???
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Seguin’s comments last night were refreshing. The majority of players don’t give a (frank) about analytics. It’s an dying fad.
- DrunkenCanuck

Sorry, but this is complete bullpoop.

In a few short years, just look at what a great job Chayka did with the Coyotes.

He used his superior analytical skills, and built a team that's going to be a dynasty.

Checkmate, poopy-head.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:17 PM ET

- Arctic_AARDVARK


okay troll
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 15 @ 1:18 PM ET
Seguin’s comments last night were refreshing. The majority of players don’t give a (frank) about analytics. It’s an dying fad.
- DrunkenCanuck



the whole thing didnt make sense, its a dumb question to ask in a (frank)ed up season. the reg season was 6 months ago..what happened then shouldnt be equated to now.

the answer was pretty dumb also....his team did something that hasnt happened in 50 years...and that proves something wrong

imo..you want your team to score more goals than you give up
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 15 @ 1:18 PM ET
We’d get a good haul for Nylander. I think you’re wrong there. I’m not his biggest fan but there’s lots of GM’s that would get “tractor beamed” by his beauty.
- Garnie

It’s really hard to say.. I’m surprised what they got for Kap.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 15 @ 1:19 PM ET
Each year we talk about following the Stanley Cup finalists/winners blueprint. I don't buy that bs for a second. Last year they were a one line team with little to no secondary scoring.

Carolina took our first rounder this year just so we could offload Marleau's contract, they then bought out Marleau.

Johnsson is young, cost controlled and can play up and down the top 3 lines (but is best suited as a 3rd liner). How exactly is that worse than Marleau?

- Kinger34

Johnsson makes about $2.5M per year in real dollars (not cap hit) for his remaining 3 years.

Anyone who suggests this is an untradeable contract is drinking too much blue Haterade.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 15 @ 1:20 PM ET
okay troll
- BINGO!

You’ve really soured on me lately, huh?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Sep 15 @ 1:23 PM ET
You’ve really soured on me lately, huh?
- Arctic_AARDVARK



we're just in a rough patch. the make up sex is going to be amazing.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 15 @ 1:25 PM ET


we're just in a rough patch. the make up sex is going to be amazing.

- BINGO!

I can’t wait.

Nylander for Pesce.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
I still can't believe Dallas got past Colorado AND Vegas.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 15 @ 1:37 PM ET


we're just in a rough patch. the make up sex is going to be amazing.

- BINGO!



hawt
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
Seguin’s comments last night were refreshing. The majority of players don’t give a (frank) about analytics. It’s an dying fad.
- DrunkenCanuck


Science is dying out. Math is making a bit of a comeback but I don’t see it lasting more than pretty years.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:39 PM ET


we're just in a rough patch. the make up sex is going to be amazing.

- BINGO!


I like that you used rough and sex together. The patch reference confuses and scares me. I like it.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
I think it’s an ok return. I’d rather have the player myself and would have traded someone else.
- Garnie



Why don't you wait to see if they trade taht 1st rounder and what for.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:40 PM ET
Do you actually watch any hockey outside of Leafs?

Dallas success is based on a terrific defense, and on 4 good forward lines, with guys that all contribute and can all play against toplines of opposing teams.

Leafs D is mediocre, Dubas underestimated for over a year the value of a good goalie tandem, and he's bet on very mediocre FWs (Kerfoot, Johnsson, Nylander) that aren't coming through in playoffs.

The Johnsson contract is worse than Marleau's deal by Lou - Johnsson is a 3rd/4th line guy, while Marleau actually played well his first seasons.

- MaximusAurelius


You can't be serious. Marleau was 40 this year and was due to earn 6.25. Jonsson can be moved tomorrow. He's young and makes a lot less than his cap hit.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:41 PM ET
You’ve really soured on me lately, huh?
- Arctic_AARDVARK


To be fair, we all just tolerate you on your best days. Unfortunately, this puts you in the top 5% in here.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:42 PM ET
Johnsson makes about $2.5M per year in real dollars (not cap hit) for his remaining 3 years.

Anyone who suggests this is an untradeable contract is drinking too much blue Haterade.

- Atomic Wedgie


Jonsson already had a better year last year than Kapanen ever had.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 15 @ 1:43 PM ET
We’d get a good haul for Nylander. I think you’re wrong there. I’m not his biggest fan but there’s lots of GM’s that would get “tractor beamed” by his beauty.
- Garnie


I agree, Leafs should and would get a something big
fot Nylander. (frank) Pesce, Nylander, Johnsson and a third for the 6th pick, Manson and Maxime Comtois. Take Askarov with the 6th pick.




RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 15 @ 1:43 PM ET
oh and Hallander isn't a 'top end' talent.
he might pan out, or he might not even make it to NHL.
saying it's a 'great deal' (or even "pittsburgh got fleeced!") is such a Dubas-fanboy statement..

- MaximusAurelius



Who said "top end"?

People who HATE the Leafs think Dubas made a fantastic trade.
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