Yeah, so great behind a team that can't play defense.

Andersen shouldn't be going anywhere.
- JohnFergusonJr

Andersen is decent, but he had a habit of letting in bad goals at bad times in the playoffs. That has killed the Leafs the last few playoffs. If you can trade for Keumper you do it IMO.

Andersen is decent, but he had a habit of letting in bad goals at bad times in the playoffs. That has killed the Leafs the last few playoffs. If you can trade for Keumper you do it IMO.
- Archaic

I was never a big Andersen fan, but he's a better option than Kuemper for sure.

Now that Brodin is signed, there isnt a whole lot of good trades out there for dmen minus Parayko who will likely never be traded.

I was never a big Andersen fan, but he's a better option than Kuemper for sure.
- MaximusAurelius

Why is that?

Andersen is decent, but he had a habit of letting in bad goals at bad times in the playoffs. That has killed the Leafs the last few playoffs. If you can trade for Keumper you do it IMO.
- Archaic

There is no better replacement for a better price.

Kuemper has been sheltered behind a defensive team and he's never played multiple full seasons as a starter. Kuemper has played 55+ games ONCE in his career. Andersen has stood on his head every season for 50-65+ games every year since he got here. It'd be an astronomically stupid move to replace Andersen with a back-up and expect different results.

Fix the defense, the goalie is good enough.

Yeah, so great behind a team that can't play defense.

Andersen shouldn't be going anywhere.
- JohnFergusonJr

If we can make a lateral move and save salary it’s fine, but 2 Patrick Roy’s won’t make much difference if that’s all we do.

They don't have a starter soon. Freddy is gone. Kuemper and Campbell are a great 1 and !A
- RogerRoeper

great?
Really?
It has potential to be meh as well.

Andersen is decent, but he had a habit of letting in bad goals at bad times in the playoffs. That has killed the Leafs the last few playoffs. If you can trade for Keumper you do it IMO.
- Archaic

Most goalie do, we even scored some cheap ones in our series. We just didn’t score enough good ones.

There is no better replacement for a better price.

Kuemper has been sheltered behind a defensive team and he's never played multiple full seasons as a starter. Kuemper has played 55+ games ONCE in his career. Andersen has stood on his head every season for 50-65+ games every year since he got here. It'd be an astronomically stupid move to replace Andersen with a back-up and expect different results.

Fix the defense, the goalie is good enough.
- JohnFergusonJr

hes good enough, but cap hit might be too high

If we can make a lateral move and save salary it’s fine, but 2 Patrick Roy’s won’t make much difference if that’s all we do.
- Garnie

There aren't many if any lateral moves that make sense because in almost every scenario they're getting a lesser goalie that can't handle the work load Andersen has been expected to take on every single year.

Leafs fans LOVE to blame goalies and they're usually wrong when they do it. They literally expect a Patrick Roy performance where he steals every single game. It's unrealistic and nonsensical.

https://twitter.com/jaredObrien17/status/1305926780499513344


Kuemper is 100% gone. Let's hope to the Leafs.
- RogerRoeper

Unless The Coyotes agree to eat salary, I don't see how this helps the Leafs.

Debatable whether or not he is better than Andersen, and the cap hit is only $500,000 less.

Interestingly, his actual salary this year is $5.5M, so I'm guessing the Coyotes would be thrilled to trade him.

So sweet
- Canada Cup

Lmfao

hes good enough, but cap hit might be too high
- Fakepartofme

He's usually a top 10 goalie for 5 million.

If they have to replace him next year, worry about it next year.

At least get the most out of him playing in a contract year.

There isn't anybody as good or better for cheaper.

There is no better replacement for a better price.

Kuemper has been sheltered behind a defensive team and he's never played multiple full seasons as a starter. Kuemper has played 55+ games ONCE in his career. Andersen has stood on his head every season for 50-65+ games every year since he got here. It'd be an astronomically stupid move to replace Andersen with a back-up and expect different results.

Fix the defense, the goalie is good enough.
- JohnFergusonJr

Kuemper had a .928 save % this season. And Arzizona plays a defensive style but that does't mean it helps him. they suck.

Kuemper is ours.

Or Freddy for super cheap if you guys decide to trade for Kuemper first and screw yourselves.

Kuemper had a .928 save % this season. And Arzizona plays a defensive style but that does't mean it helps him. they suck.
- RogerRoeper

He only played 29 games. And if you look at his career, he usually plays less than 30 a year except once where he played 55.

Andersen is usually expected to play 60+.

See the difference yet?

Yeah, it actually does help him a lot. The Coyotes problem is they usually get shutout like the Leafs did twice against Columbus.

He had a .935 SV% in the playoffs. The problem wasn't Andersen.

Unless The Coyotes agree to eat salary, I don't see how this helps the Leafs.

Debatable whether or not he is better than Andersen, and the cap hit is only $500,000 less.

Interestingly, his actual salary this year is $5.5M, so I'm guessing the Coyotes would be thrilled to trade him.
- Atomic Wedgie

Andrsen is such a steal at 1 million salary next year.

He only played 29 games. Andersen is usually expected to play 60.

See the difference yet?

Yeah, it actually does help him a lot. The Coyotes problem is they usually get shutout like the Leafs did twice against Columbus.

He had a .935 SV% in the playoffs. The problem wasn't Andersen.
- JohnFergusonJr

And that needs to end. The model of player a starter 65 games is done with. Leafs can't continue that. That's why they got Campbell.

Campbell should play minimum 30 in a full year.

He only played 29 games. And if you look at his career, he usually plays less than 30 a year expect once where he played 55.

Andersen is usually expected to play 60+.

See the difference yet?

Yeah, it actually does help him a lot. The Coyotes problem is they usually get shutout like the Leafs did twice against Columbus.

He had a .935 SV% in the playoffs. The problem wasn't Andersen.
- JohnFergusonJr

Andersen defenders keep posting this, but it places him 3rd out of 3 goalies in that series.

He's being moved for contract reasons anyways.

I was never a big Andersen fan, but he's a better option than Kuemper for sure.
- MaximusAurelius

I was a fan of his when he got here and we had that great run to get to the playoffs losing to the Capitals, even though he gave up that weak goal to Tom Wilson..

Since the 1st Bruins series, he has been losing my support..

too many softies at critical times of games, regular season and playoffs.
I think it's time for a change in goal, but mostly because we can't afford to pay him what he may want as a UFA

I’m watching “All or nothing” Tottenham Hotspurs..

I wonder if Jose Mourino would consider joining the Leafs staff? 🤔

And that needs to end. The model of player a starter 65 games is done with. Leafs can't continue that. That's why they got Campbell.

Campbell should play minimum 30 in a full year.
- RogerRoeper

I don't know if you know this but a season has 82 games so if your plan is to play Campbell 30 games and Kuemper 30 games, you're going to need to find a 3rd goalie to play the last 22 games.

I’m watching “All or nothing” Tottenham Hotspurs..

I wonder is Jose Mourino would consider going the Leafs staff? 🤔
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I saw them live in my only premier league match in London 2 years ago. Now I'm a fan

Andersen defenders keep posting this, but it places him 3rd out of 3 goalies in that series.

He's being moved for contract reasons anyways.
- RogerRoeper

It's not Andersen's fault they got shutout twice. You know that high powered unstoppable offense that will win a Cup by itself you keep bragging about?

Andersen defenders keep posting this, but it places him 3rd out of 3 goalies in that series.

He's being moved for contract reasons anyways.
- RogerRoeper

That's still really good. Andersen can't score on the other goalies too.