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DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 15 @ 10:28 PM ET
Nylander and 50% salary retained for Loui Eriksson?
- PatC80


Add Bracco and you have a deal.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:33 PM ET
You’re gonna be disappointed.
- Steven_Seagull

Idk why you guys expect me to fold..

Everything I’ve ever said about Nylander has turned out to be true.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 15 @ 10:35 PM ET
Idk why you guys expect me to fold..

Everything I’ve ever said about Nylander has turned out to be true.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Stay strong
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:41 PM ET
Stay strong
- Canada Cup

He is, but something smells.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 15 @ 10:41 PM ET
Idk why you guys expect me to fold..

Everything I’ve ever said about Nylander has turned out to be true.

- Arctic_AARDVARK



You said he’ll score 30+?
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 15 @ 10:42 PM ET

Don’t know why you fellers are even talking about trading Nylander. Dubas said he’s not trading him.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:44 PM ET
Don’t know why you fellers are even talking about trading Nylander. Dubas said he’s not trading him.
- DrunkenCanuck

Good plan, trade Marner.
He's just as one dimensional as Willy but he doesn't score.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:48 PM ET
Don’t know why you fellers are even talking about trading Nylander. Dubas said he’s not trading him.
- DrunkenCanuck


4th best forward, he's the odd man out.

Dubas said he wasn't trading him right away, he never said he'd never trade him.

He traded his BFF Kapanen, Nylander shouldn't be untouchable by any means.
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 15 @ 10:49 PM ET
Good plan, trade Marner.
- bobbyisno1


Robertson is a nice surprise. Playing with house money there. So package him with one of those tool bags like Dermott or Holl and get the D you need.
Steven_Seagull
Location: Former Leafs fan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 15 @ 10:49 PM ET
Robertson is a nice surprise. Playing with house money there. So package him with one of those tool bags like Dermott or Holl and get the D you need.
- DrunkenCanuck



Keep Robertson, trade Nylander
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:50 PM ET
Good plan, trade Marner.
He's just as one dimensional as Willy but he doesn't score.

- bobbyisno1


1000% false. Marner is the only top forward who kills penalties and by far the best playmaker on the team and one of the best in the entire NHL when he's at his best. Marner is too young and too good to trade right now.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:50 PM ET
Keep Robertson, trade Nylander
- Steven_Seagull

Wrong wing, keep Robertson trade Marner.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:51 PM ET
Keep Robertson, trade Nylander
- Steven_Seagull


They aren't even close to the same level. Robertson is still terribly small, weak and can't skate for poop.

They definitely have to trade Nylander to fix the D but Robertson isn't filling his shoes any time soon.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:51 PM ET
1000% false. Marner is the only top forward who kills penalties and by far the best playmaker on the team and one of the best in the entire NHL when he's at his best. Marner is too young and too good to trade right now.
- JohnFergusonJr

Yeah and the Leafs had a really good penalty kill.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:52 PM ET
Don’t know why you fellers are even talking about trading Nylander. Dubas said he’s not trading him.
- DrunkenCanuck

He said he wouldn’t sign and trade.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:53 PM ET
They aren't even close to the same level. Robertson is still terribly small, weak and can't skate for poop.

They definitely have to trade Nylander to fix the D but Robertson isn't filling his shoes any time soon.

- JohnFergusonJr

Also, where was that playmaking against Columbus?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:54 PM ET
Yeah and the Leafs had a really good penalty kill.
- bobbyisno1


Columbus didn't score a single PP goal.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 10:55 PM ET
Also, where was that playmaking against Columbus?
- bobbyisno1


Ask Tavares who forgot how to hit an open net.

Ask Tavares and Matthews who made the spinning pass to win that game in OT.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:56 PM ET
Columbus didn't score a single PP goal.
- JohnFergusonJr

Because they have a terrible powerplay,how many did Boston score last year.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 10:58 PM ET
Ask Tavares who forgot how to hit an open net.

Ask Tavares and Matthews who made the spinning pass to win that game in OT.

- JohnFergusonJr

If Marner got his normal points per game like Nylander did they win that series.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 11:00 PM ET
Because they have a terrible powerplay,how many did Boston score last year.
- bobbyisno1


Or because the Leafs PK did it's job. You only like to blame but you won't give credit.

Marner, like Matthews, is 23 years old. Imagine being a Leafs fan so desperate for elite level talent and giving up on them at 23. It's as if people have been a Leafs fan for 10 minutes and haven't learn their lesson yet what happens when you start screaming to trade 23 year olds because they didn't deliver INSTANT gratification.

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 15 @ 11:03 PM ET
Or because the Leafs PK did it's job. You only like to blame but you won't give credit.

Marner, like Matthews, is 23 years old. Imagine being a Leafs fan so desperate for elite level talent and giving up on them at 23. It's as if people have been a Leafs fan for 10 minutes and haven't learn their lesson yet what happens when you start screaming to trade 23 year olds because they didn't deliver INSTANT gratification.

- JohnFergusonJr

So whats the difference giving up on Marner or Nylander. I think trading Marner would help the team much more, in trade return and cap. That's not giving up on him.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 11:03 PM ET
If Marner got his normal points per game like Nylander did they win that series.
- bobbyisno1


They both had 4 points each, what are you talking about?

Tavares had 3 points.

They all underachieved but they're all also very young. The only one that should be getting serious heat is Tavares. At his age and at this point in his career, he's been a playoff disappointment two years in a row.

It's understandable that young players will struggle but at 28-30, Tavares should be a lot better when it matters most.
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Sep 15 @ 11:04 PM ET
If Marner got his normal points per game like Nylander did they win that series.
- bobbyisno1


You had a chance until Muzzin went down imo. Then the D got exposed and the big boys looked like they gave up.
67 year old Jason (frank)ing Spezza had to fight to get the smallest sputter of life out of the team. That’s a problem.
Just my toonie.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 15 @ 11:05 PM ET
So whats the difference giving up on Marner or Nylander. I think trading Marner would help the team much more, in trade return and cap. That's not giving up on him.
- bobbyisno1


Because Marner has a way higher ceiling. It is absolutely is giving up on him.

Nylander + Johnsson / Kerfoot gives them the same cap space and enough trade value to get the job done.

Don't trade the best players with the highest ceilings. Trade the 4th best forward instead.
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