Unfortunately, this feels true to me.

I think Petro is staying put. If he needs to, he will accept the contract on the table from the Blues, but is trying to squeeze a little more out of it.

I could always be wrong, but it's just the feeling I'm getting reading all of the news on the subject.
- Leafs43

If the Leafs can't afford Pietrangelo, how is Vegas going to?

Lebrun just wrote on Monday how his wife is from St Louis, her family lives there.. They just had their 4th kid, and that does not make leaving St Louis a slam dunk thing to do. In the same article Pietrangelo himself referred to Stamkos signing at the last minute to stay. The entire article was about there being more to free agency decisions than money.

So I'm not sure every insider is saying that...
- joel878

PL has reported talks haven't gone well along with what you just said.

It is not looking good and Petro HIMSELF has said it.

If the Leafs can't afford Pietrangelo, how is Vegas going to?
- PatC80

Both teams have no dead weight contracts.

The Blues have Steen, Bozak.

Which is truly impressive because he's wrong. A lot.
- GreatGigInTheSky

that's true.. It's just Max is still worse.

Absolutely not one single solitary word of that are these guys saying he won't be signing in St Louis.
- joel878

Never said he wont.

said they are saying talks aren't looking good and looks like he is hitting the open market.

Right. They have triplets and a child under 1. AP would like to stay in st. Louis and I can see his wife saying for a million less per year why not stay?
- Aaron_85

To me it seems he's posturing to stay there and get the best deal possible. But who really knows.

You think Rantanen and Aho are better players?

And they might be ...I just think the hockey world that GM's work in feels like MM's big points are worth more.

I think we can also assume MM's new contract is inflated by all/some of the 4.8 million in ELC bonus dollars his people firmly believed they were "jerked" out of by Big Lou. It was discussed throughout those negotiations.
- The Law

i don't there was a need to pay any of them much more than 8.5m.

Both teams have no dead weight contracts.

The Blues have Steen, Bozak.
- Santo_44

The Leafs can have Steen included in the deal and then LTIR him since he is injured

NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
LeBrun on TSN1050 says there is no question that Alex Pietrangelo has the Leafs on his radar but whether Toronto can clear enough space is another question. LeBrun suggests perhaps the Leafs should look at a trade to acquire a D, mentions Matt Dumba's name as a possible target.

@Account4hockey
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Sep 15
Darren Dreger on TSN1050 said he thinks Toronto and Las Vegas would be near the top of Alex Pietrangelo's list of preferred destinations if he does not re-sign with the Blues
ateway Grinders
@gatewaygrinders
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Sep 14
“It’s been a little disappointing that we haven’t been able to get a deal done... I think you have to be willing to accept the fact that there may be a change one day.”

- Alex Pietrangelo on Contract Talks #stlblues
NHL Watcher
@NHL_Watcher
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Darren Dreger on Leafs Lunch talking Alex Pietrangelo: "I think that going into the open market, Toronto would be very high on his list. I think the Vegas Golden Knights would be high on his list and that list would be relatively short."
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They have made it insanely obvious that talks have gone horribly.
- Santo_44

Ya, but that's not what you said. You said the insiders indicated that they would be "shocked" if he resigned in St Louis.

It seems to me like the player really wants to stay in St Louis - and the GM is fully aware of this fact and using this to their advantage. My guess is that the contract talks continue to go terribly for a few more weeks and then they meet in the middle.

Lol ok.

Yeah.

insiders have never been able to tell if a negotiation is going bad.

Want proof? Petro has said it himself. He said yesterday he is now preparing for change with how bad the talks have been going.
- Santo_44

ya they said the talks havent been great.
So what.
All it takes is the right number and he signs back with blues.
Its posturing

Lol ok.

Yeah.

insiders have never been able to tell if a negotiation is going bad.

Want proof? Petro has said it himself. He said yesterday he is now preparing for change with how bad the talks have been going.
- Santo_44

Except that's not what he said.

“It’s been a little disappointing that we haven’t been able to get a deal done... I think you have to be willing to accept the fact that there may be a change one day.”

How do you translate this to "talks are going so badly, I'm preparing to leave!"?

i havent heard any insider say these two are the favourites.
Only that these teams would be really interested and that he would be the missing piece.
Ive also heard them mention the pens as well.
- Fakepartofme

Actually insiders are saying the VGK and Leafs are at the top of HIS list.

Not the other way around.

i havent heard any insider say these two are the favourites.
Only that these teams would be really interested and that he would be the missing piece.
Ive also heard them mention the pens as well.
- Fakepartofme

Actually insiders are saying the VGK and Leafs are at the top of HIS list.

Not the other way around.

Never said he wont.

said they are saying talks aren't looking good and looks like he is hitting the open market.
- Santo_44

Except that's not what you said.... you said every insider would be shocked to see him sign with the Blues.....

Jeremy Rutherford
@jprutherford
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Sep 11
The NHL has confirmed Oct. 9 as the opening day of free agency. That means the Blues and Pietrangelo have less than a month to reach a deal. As I've written recently, there has been no progress. Things can change in a hurry, but it doesn't look promising at the moment. #stlblues


He’s a St. Louis Blues writer.

Never said he wont.

said they are saying talks aren't looking good and looks like he is hitting the open market.
- Santo_44

and that insiders believe Toronto and lv are his top picks.
Thats what you said

Except that's not what he said.

“It’s been a little disappointing that we haven’t been able to get a deal done... I think you have to be willing to accept the fact that there may be a change one day.”

How do you translate this to "talks are going so badly, I'm preparing to leave!"?
- Scabeh

Disappointed about talks

willing to accept the fact that there might be a change

that screams talks haven't gone well, if you are already too stubborn to listen to guys connected to the league.

PL has reported talks haven't gone well along with what you just said.

It is not looking good and Petro HIMSELF has said it.
- Santo_44

Pietrangelo himself has not said that, he has said there may be a time he has to consider going elsewhere.

Talks not going 'well' are not a concrete indicator he is leaving. Not talking at all would be that indicator. As long as they are negotiating there is a chance he resigns there, there's a very realistic chance that is his preference in the end.

It doesn't matter what any of these 'insiders' are saying publicly, it's literally their jobs to farm out news and speculate on it.

Pietrangelo and his family are making the biggest decision of their lives, that's a household conversation at the end of the day, and there's no telling how that goes until it goes one way or the other.

Jeremy Rutherford
@jprutherford
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Sep 11
The NHL has confirmed Oct. 9 as the opening day of free agency. That means the Blues and Pietrangelo have less than a month to reach a deal. As I've written recently, there has been no progress. Things can change in a hurry, but it doesn't look promising at the moment. #stlblues


He’s a St. Louis Blues writer.
- Steven_Seagull

This.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the talks have been going poorly.

Except that's not what you said.... you said every insider would be shocked to see him sign with the Blues.....
- Scabeh

read between the lines amd behind the tea leaves.

Jesus.

Never doubt dreger

Lol

Pietrangelo himself has not said that, he has said there may be a time he has to consider going elsewhere.

Talks not going 'well' are not a concrete indicator he is leaving. Not talking at all would be that indicator. As long as they are negotiating there is a chance he resigns there, there's a very realistic chance that is his preference in the end.

It doesn't matter what any of these 'insiders' are saying publicly, it's literally their jobs to farm out news and speculate on it.

Pietrangelo and his family are making the biggest decision of their lives, that's a household conversation at the end of the day, and there's no telling how that goes until it goes one way or the other.
- joel878

Believe what you want.

I see a frustrated player because he cant get a deal done with his preferred destination.

Its what you get for signing Scandella and Fualk to stupid deals months prior.

read between the lines amd behind the tea leaves.

Jesus.

Never doubt dreger

Lol
- Fakepartofme

Jeremy Rutherford
@jprutherford
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Sep 11
The NHL has confirmed Oct. 9 as the opening day of free agency. That means the Blues and Pietrangelo have less than a month to reach a deal. As I've written recently, there has been no progress. Things can change in a hurry, but it doesn't look promising at the moment. #stlblues

It's as if by talking about it we've done our own idiot conjuring. 🤦‍♂️
- joel878

I blame you.

This.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the talks have been going poorly.
- Santo_44

just havent made any progress since last offer.
Things change fast.

Means nothing right now

just havent made any progress since last offer.
Things change fast.

Means nothing right now
- Fakepartofme

Sorry dude but it means a lot.

Haven't been apart of any sort of negotiations in your lifetime eh? You'll understand someday.