when you say "he's no Markov", you mean Markov was more important to the team than Gallagher is?
- Pat1993

No I mean Markov was older and had been injured but was smarter and played a style of hockey that would allow him to be a contributor and yet gone. Gallagher at the same age will be looking at a wheelchair at his rate.

No I mean Markov was older and had been injured but was smarter and played a style of hockey that would allow him to be a contributor and yet gone. Gallagher at the same age will be looking at a wheelchair at his rate.
- Pie

Markov was a miracle...to blow out a knee twice and still be as efficient as he was, that was magic.

It takes time to get into the flow here. Yeah, we're not always on topic... But when you troll in every instance where we're not, you're not going to be well recieved. Took me years to get into really chatting here. But a good bunch once you just let go. Just don't expect us all to love you from word 1.
- Darksyde

I'm not here for love. Where I can, or want. I will contribute on Hockey stuff. Once it turns to life time contracts to be friends, you'll get chicken necks. But that goes against the grain of "we should be able to talk about whatever the **** we want". Pick your poison.

How you doing ?

A verbal contract is binding in the province of Quebec LOL
- Karine Hains

gee, thanks for the help there


but I didn't say "yes" or anything, so...

I'm not here for love. Where I can, or want. I will contribute on Hockey stuff. Once it turns to life time contracts to be friends, you'll get chicken necks. But that goes against the grain of "we should be able to talk about whatever the **** we want". Pick your poison.

How you doing ?
- henny1953

*sigh* Never mind...

Nobody knows what the future holds for Gallagher. To guess he's going to wither and be useless just isn't reasonable. People said he couldn't play his game for more than a few years since he started... Proved them wrong, too.
- Darksyde

So 8 years? Lock him down. For all the people you said he was washed up your good to double? I said 3-4 and then re evaluate...no different than Markov

Markov was a miracle...to blow out a knee twice and still be as efficient as he was, that was magic.
- Karine Hains

et voila....

gee, thank for the help there


but I didn't say "yes" or anything, so...
- Pat1993

... Or *to* anything.
Darksyde, not-so-legal counsel for the Defense.

No I mean Markov was older and had been injured but was smarter and played a style of hockey that would allow him to be a contributor and yet gone. Gallagher at the same age will be looking at a wheelchair at his rate.
- Pie

ahh, I see. in a sense I agree with what you're saying, but Gallagher's injuries so far haven't been career-threatening, at least not that I know of... sure he can get injured like any other player, but he can handle most of the bruises he gets from getting in corners and working hard...

... Or *to* anything.
Darksyde, not-so-legal counsel for the Defense.
- Darksyde

No I mean Markov was older and had been injured but was smarter and played a style of hockey that would allow him to be a contributor and yet gone. Gallagher at the same age will be looking at a wheelchair at his rate.
- Pie

the thing with the Gallagher contract is it might very well be the ceiling for forwards going forward. like Weber for dmen.

- Pat1993

I'll take my retainer in the form of alcohol.

I'll take my retainer in the form of alcohol.
- Darksyde

done deal

ahh, I see. in a sense I agree with what you're saying, but Gallagher's injuries so far haven't been career-threatening, at least not that I know of... sure he can get injured like any other player, but he can handle most of the bruises he gets from getting in corners and working hard...
- Pat1993

every year...it compounds, especially with that style. If his career ended tomorrow we'd be wow great career shame it ended that way. I'm suggesting he has 3 maybe 4 years top end left. Sign him to 3-4 and then decide. If Markov didn't retire a Hab...

the thing with the Gallagher contract is it might very well be the ceiling for forwards going forward. like Weber for dmen.
- fidopro

explain

explain
- Pie

let say they give Gallagher 7M per, pretty sure no other forwards could ask for more than that. not in a near future. maybe at the end of the contract, in 5-6 years, but not now.
you want Gallagher money? work as hard as he does. untli then you'll take 5M or 6M... but not more than him.
same way I don't see Petry getting more than Weber.

every year...it compounds, especially with that style. If his career ended tomorrow we'd be wow great career shame it ended that way. I'm suggesting he has 3 maybe 4 years top end left. Sign him to 3-4 and then decide. If Markov didn't retire a Hab...
- Pie

it's not entirely impossible, but like I said I think he'll adjust and last more than that. you also have to consider that by then they won't be relying on him for top-line duties, if everything goes right...

also, do you really think he would consider signing a 3-year contract at this point in his career?

every year...it compounds, especially with that style. If his career ended tomorrow we'd be wow great career shame it ended that way. I'm suggesting he has 3 maybe 4 years top end left. Sign him to 3-4 and then decide. If Markov didn't retire a Hab...
- Pie

The thing is though, if you offer him that term, you may very well insult your leader and he may be like right then frank off. The style he played, he more or less gave his body to the Habs (better than science if you ask me) so they kind of owe it to him to give him the security of longer term. I know, he let Markov skate into the sunset but that was much later in Marky’s career, his money was made.

The thing is though, if you offer him that term, you may very well insult your leader and he may be like right then frank off. The style he played, he more or less gave his body to the Habs (better than science if you ask me) so they kind of owe it to him to give him the security of longer term. I know, he let Markov skate into the sunset but that was much later in Marky’s career, his money was made.
- Karine Hains

yeah clearly you want to set the bar with that level of effort

The thing is though, if you offer him that term, you may very well insult your leader and he may be like right then frank off. The style he played, he more or less gave his body to the Habs (better than science if you ask me) so they kind of owe it to him to give him the security of longer term. I know, he let Markov skate into the sunset but that was much later in Marky’s career, his money was made.
- Karine Hains

they tuned Markov $ wise. I just don't agree that he should get 6-7 years. 5 max.

let say they give Gallagher 7M per, pretty sure no other forwards could ask for more than that. not in a near future. maybe at the end of the contract, in 5-6 years, but not now.
you want Gallagher money? work as hard as he does. untli then you'll take 5M or 6M... but not more than him.
same way I don't see Petry getting more than Weber.
- fidopro

got it

it's not entirely impossible, but like I said I think he'll adjust and last more than that. you also have to consider that by then they won't be relying on him for top-line duties, if everything goes right...

also, do you really think he would consider signing a 3-year contract at this point in his career?
- Pat1993

I don't think he does. I think your right he doesn't take a 3 year but I think 3-4 is whats left at this level.

they tuned Markov $ wise. I just don't agree that he should get 6-7 years. 5 max.
- Pie

5 years is my ideal scenario, but if it takes more, it takes more.

having said all that, I doubt Gallagher's salary will hamstring them.

5 years is my ideal scenario, but if it takes more, it takes more.
- Karine Hains

it would be ok