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I assume you mean on PP2, because what would you do with Kane on PP1? He is wasted on the left side. - LAHawk
Good power plays have good puck movement and good people movement. The Hawks need to work on continual motion. If you have 5 savvy high hockey IQ players with good hands with some coaching and practice they should be able to figure out how to score with the man advantage. Toew, Kane, Kubalik, Dach fit that classification. Dcat, Saad, not so much. Keith has some shooting issues, but other than that is ok. deHaan and Maata have some offensive skills. Carlsson & Boqvist show some potential.
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rpeters01
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I would have to agree. Would much rather have a tougher player taking the abuse as the net front presence. Shaw was great at it and Caggiula to a lesser degree.
Regula played the bumper role for the London Knights but don't think his body is developed enough to parlay that role against teenagers to a role with NHL players.
Need someone like Bickell: physically able to take the abuse, capacity to eclipse the goalie, and have soft hands to pot garbage goals.
Entwistle could be a solution down the road. Barratt, too. Possibly Morrison but I see him as a long-term project. We shall see. - Theo Fox
I thought of Bickell as well, especially when our goalie was pulled.
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I wonder how long Bowman gave Crawford to accept the $3.5? If it is true they asked about Kuempher, sounds like they are ready to move on if they do not agree very soon. - LAHawk
They may have told him "here's the offer and we're not waiting if something comes up?" Who knows? |
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If Kane and Kubalik are on the same unit, then they just need to be deployed in ways that optimize their talents. Kane with his playmaking and vision. Kubalik with his ability to find soft spots, sneak behind the defense, and rifle shots on net. - Theo Fox
I thought the PP against EDM had Kane on the left and it was very good. True, he can't really get off a one-timer from the left, but there was a lot more movement (I think because he had to work a bit more to open up a passing lane) and it was effective. |
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They may have told him "here's the offer and we're not waiting if something comes up?" Who knows? - rpeters01
From Friedman's 31 thoughts:
23. Initially, Chicago and Corey Crawford were not seeing eye to eye on the dollar value of an extension. Crawford knew there would be a cut. How much was the issue. |
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When Toews is the guy "parking" in front of the net that's a problem. Need a bigger guy to take the abuse let Towes be next to that guy. - rpeters01
Kubalik should be the guy in front of the net, they need a sniper to fill his spot on the wing
If Dcat gets his shot back then the answer is within the team |
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Spot on. Being a net front presence is a precise art and the Hawks aren't artful at it. They need to be just as you described it. - Theo Fox
As you said Theo nobody was better at "using his face for a stick than Shaw." |
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From Friedman's 31 thoughts:
23. Initially, Chicago and Corey Crawford were not seeing eye to eye on the dollar value of an extension. Crawford knew there would be a cut. How much was the issue. - Chunk
He may retire, if Lehner is at $5 Crow is going to be less because of age and injury history, even for one year. |
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I thought the PP against EDM had Kane on the left and it was very good. True, he can't really get off a one-timer from the left, but there was a lot more movement (I think because he had to work a bit more to open up a passing lane) and it was effective. - Chunk
For game 1 it worked, after that same ole, same ole.
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Kubalik should be the guy in front of the net, they need a sniper to fill his spot on the wing
If Dcat gets his shot back then the answer is within the team - BetweenTheDots
I don't agree with those two they should be near the net but not the puck battling jammer. |
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I don't agree with those two they should be near the net but not the puck battling jammer. - rpeters01
Kubalik has similar traits to the mule, eye hand coordination is fantastic, and Cat had a fantastic quick heavy shot if that comes back the PP will be really good |
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I don't agree with those two they should be near the net but not the puck battling jammer. - rpeters01
Two words... Nick Seeler. Gotta find somewhere to use him, no? |
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Good power plays have good puck movement and good people movement. The Hawks need to work on continual motion. If you have 5 savvy high hockey IQ players with good hands with some coaching and practice they should be able to figure out how to score with the man advantage. Toew, Kane, Kubalik, Dach fit that classification. Dcat, Saad, not so much. Keith has some shooting issues, but other than that is ok. deHaan and Maata have some offensive skills. Carlsson & Boqvist show some potential. - -Doh-
Thank you for adding that perspective about player movement. Very key.
Putting Kubalik in a role where he's stationary is not a good use of his talents. He's best when he can venture around to find those soft spots.
Kane moving around starts causes the other team to start following him around and may result in passing lanes opening up for wide open shots.
Moving around by others also reduces abuse from the other team as it's generally tougher to hit a moving target. |
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Jim Cornelison supposedly confirmed to be singing the national anthem for the Bears home opener. - Theo Fox
Yeah.
Why should we be the only fans to suffer...? |
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The Hawks should not be looking for a win now goalie either. - -Doh-
Not sure I agree with that. Will they be an upper-echelon team next season? No, probably not. But I fully expect them to make the postseason, and they’ll need to have a goalie that they can count on.
If they were to fully commit to a rebuild I’d have no problem finding a guy to develop, but since that doesn’t appear to be the case I would expect them to find someone they can plug and play as a starter (aka a win-now goalie). |
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I thought the PP against EDM had Kane on the left and it was very good. True, he can't really get off a one-timer from the left, but there was a lot more movement (I think because he had to work a bit more to open up a passing lane) and it was effective. - Chunk
The key there is movement to open up passing lanes. It's so easy for the other team to defend if the Hawks stand still to pass the puck around.
I will continue to beat this drum but as Olczyk says constantly: "Move the puck, move yourself." |
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Thank you for adding that perspective about player movement. Very key.
Putting Kubalik in a role where he's stationary is not a good use of his talents. He's best when he can venture around to find those soft spots.
Kane moving around starts causes the other team to start following him around and may result in passing lanes opening up for wide open shots.
Moving around by others also reduces abuse from the other team as it's generally tougher to hit a moving target. - Theo Fox
Ovi for years sets up by the left circle and waits to pound shots, Brett Hull was similar. If no-one is moving and the threat of chances from somewhere else on the ice don't exist, it becomes easy to cover. When the Caps PP becomes deadly is when there are other players and the puck moving, meaning you cant just cheat on Ovi but have to respect the rest.
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Two words... Nick Seeler. Gotta find somewhere to use him, no? - Chunk
He can drive the Zamboni |
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Ovi for years sets up by the left circle and waits to pound shots, Brett Hull was similar. If no-one is moving and the threat of chances from somewhere else on the ice don't exist, it becomes easy to cover. When the Caps PP becomes deadly is when there are other players and the puck moving, meaning you cant just cheat on Ovi but have to respect the rest. - TheTrob
Ovechkin is a great example. The backdoor play or getting the puck to your best shooter for a one timer (i.e. Sharp, Panarin, DeBrincat, Kubalik), then that should work as long as the rest of the team is moving to get the defense moving around, too.
The rest of the team moving around and passing the puck takes attention off of whoever you want to sneak to the soft area for the open shot.
If the team is stationary, it's easy for a defender to watch 2 players at a time. |
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The Hawks should not be looking for a win now goalie either. - -Doh-
What is a "win now" goalie? They need, at a very minimum, a competent goalie. I would posit that bringing Crow back would be the minimum performance that you could accept. The goalie position for the Hawks is more about cost than anything else, but you can't even get a decent evaluation of your team if they are going with the Jeff Glass's of the world. |
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Ovechkin is a great example. The backdoor play or getting the puck to your best shooter for a one timer (i.e. Sharp, Panarin, DeBrincat, Kubalik, then that should work as long as the rest of the team is moving to get the defense moving around, too.
The rest of the team moving around and passing the puck takes attention off of whoever you want to sneak to the soft area for the open shot.
If the team is stationary, it's easy for a defender to watch 2 players at a time. - Theo Fox
You also need puck retrievers that can get the puck back after missed shots, deflected passes, etc. Hawks don't win too many of those battles.
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What is a "win now" goalie? They need, at a very minimum, a competent goalie. I would posit that bringing Crow back would be the minimum performance that you could accept. The goalie position for the Hawks is more about cost than anything else, but you can't even get a decent evaluation of your team if they are going with the Jeff Glass's of the world. - Chunk
When St. Louis traded for Ryan Miller, that was supposedly for a win now goalie.
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You also need puck retrievers that can get the puck back after missed shots, deflected passes, etc. Hawks don't win too many of those battles. - LAHawk
Need those, too. Add that to the list. |
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Need those, too. Add that to the list. - Theo Fox
1) 2 goalies
2) PP movement
3) Size
4) Speed
5) Size with speed
6) Puck retrievers/forecheckers
7) Dump Maatta
8) Dump Smith
9) Hire new president (optional)
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Theo Fox
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What is a "win now" goalie? They need, at a very minimum, a competent goalie. I would posit that bringing Crow back would be the minimum performance that you could accept. The goalie position for the Hawks is more about cost than anything else, but you can't even get a decent evaluation of your team if they are going with the Jeff Glass's of the world. - Chunk
Not being snarky here, just a question to address your post. How did the Canes view Darling when they signed him to the 4-year $16.6M contract? Was he supposed to be a win-now goalie or a stepping stone? Or something else? |
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