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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 16 @ 11:23 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Patrick Exit Day Series, Flyers Warriors, Flyers Alumni & More
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buh bye NJ, hello Florida!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 16 @ 11:38 AM ET
Unless the team knows something we don’t, they cannot count on Patrick being part of the team. I don’t like the idea of tying up cap dollars on a middle 6 FA center either.

I think the best bet might be to pencil in Frost with Laughton on his LW to take faceoffs. I’d give him as many O zone starts as possible too.
jryan88
Location: PA
Joined: 09.02.2020

Sep 16 @ 11:39 AM ET
I don't think the Flyers get more than a second rounder back for Ghost in any trade but what do you think a fair return is?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 16 @ 11:44 AM ET
I don't think the Flyers get more than a second rounder back for Ghost in any trade but what do you think a fair return is?
- jryan88


I would take a second rounder.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Sep 16 @ 11:53 AM ET
At best I think Patrick is your "Plan C".
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Sep 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
Hi Bill, to me the question doesn't stand on who is 3Q. I think that is between Laughton and Giroux - who I still believe can be a really productive over the next 2-3years. But I would not expect him to be on Top line anymore. Kind of like we had with Primeau as C behind Roenick and Handzus. The depth was just unreal.
And that is what we shoot for here.
So the question stands for me, who is the new first line center? And I kind of hope it can be Frost (not counting on Patrick at the moment as I am fully with you on that front).
Frost in my view with good summer (autumn) after the last kick and message from this PO can make it, he has all the tools, and it is becoming a young legs game. He showed glimpses of his capabilities last season, he knows what are his gaps and he should be ready for it next season. He can succeed as Top 6 player in this league.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 16 @ 11:55 AM ET
Plan c. That’s hilarious. Plan b him. Abort
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 16 @ 11:56 AM ET
I would take a second rounder.
- bmeltzer

Deal deal deal. If some sucker offers a 2nd rounder it’s a no brainer
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 16 @ 11:57 AM ET
Hi Bill, to me the question doesn't stand on who is 3Q. I think that is between Laughton and Giroux - who I still believe can be a really productive over the next 2-3years. But I would not expect him to be on Top line anymore. Kind of like we had with Primeau as C behind Roenick and Handzus. The depth was just unreal.
And that is what we shoot for here.
So the question stands for me, who is the new first line center? And I kind of hope it can be Frost (not counting on Patrick at the moment as I am fully with you on that front).
Frost in my view with good summer (autumn) after the last kick and message from this PO can make it, he has all the tools, and it is becoming a young legs game. He showed glimpses of his capabilities last season, he knows what are his gaps and he should be ready for it next season. He can succeed as Top 6 player in this league.

- Keith25

Frost??? Hasn’t done anything yet. Yeah let’s not try to put him on top line roll.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 16 @ 11:59 AM ET
I would take a second rounder.
- bmeltzer

Would you trade ghost and pick/prospect for kassian and puljarvi (sp)
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:07 PM ET
Hi Bill, to me the question doesn't stand on who is 3Q. I think that is between Laughton and Giroux - who I still believe can be a really productive over the next 2-3years. But I would not expect him to be on Top line anymore. Kind of like we had with Primeau as C behind Roenick and Handzus. The depth was just unreal.
And that is what we shoot for here.
So the question stands for me, who is the new first line center? And I kind of hope it can be Frost (not counting on Patrick at the moment as I am fully with you on that front).
Frost in my view with good summer (autumn) after the last kick and message from this PO can make it, he has all the tools, and it is becoming a young legs game. He showed glimpses of his capabilities last season, he knows what are his gaps and he should be ready for it next season. He can succeed as Top 6 player in this league.

- Keith25


Couturier is still the first-line center and Hayes at C2. In terms of LW1, it's still Giroux unless someone else steps up.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 16 @ 12:09 PM ET
Depends on the pick/prospect I guess. But doubt the oilers do this.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 16 @ 12:17 PM ET
Depends on the pick/prospect I guess. But doubt the oilers do this.
- Peter Richards

What makes you say that? How about 1 for 1 ghost for kassian?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 16 @ 12:25 PM ET
Bill,

Do you think their could be some RFA's available as with the cap not moving some of these guys might be squeezed out from getting offers?
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Sep 16 @ 12:31 PM ET
Granlund is a player that I've always liked, and therefore wouldn't mind the Flyers kicking the tires on him. But realistically, given the team's current cap situation, it ain't happening. Appears to be a pretty underwhelming UFA forward group this year, so even with the covid-cap I'm sure some team will overpay for a player like him. Although, he is coming off a sweet deal where he was overpaid relative to his production, so perhaps he takes less if likes his fit here. But I doubt that.
I always viewed him as a feisty, plus-skater that at least attempts to play with some creativity in the offensive zone. But the production just hasn't been there in recent seasons. And I have no idea how he'd fit in AV's system.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
Bill,

Do you think their could be some RFA's available as with the cap not moving some of these guys might be squeezed out from getting offers?

- J35Bacher


UFAs or RFAs? I do think a patient team could find some good UFA bargains if they are patient.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
Couturier is still the first-line center and Hayes at C2. In terms of LW1, it's still Giroux unless someone else steps up.
- bmeltzer

So basically same ol same ol. Only way to get top talent in next few seasons is trade. Hopefully not young guys. My sole focus the next few years will be watching hart development more closely if we gonna roll with same ol same ol.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
Hi Bill, to me the question doesn't stand on who is 3Q. I think that is between Laughton and Giroux - who I still believe can be a really productive over the next 2-3years. But I would not expect him to be on Top line anymore. Kind of like we had with Primeau as C behind Roenick and Handzus. The depth was just unreal.
And that is what we shoot for here.
So the question stands for me, who is the new first line center? And I kind of hope it can be Frost (not counting on Patrick at the moment as I am fully with you on that front).
Frost in my view with good summer (autumn) after the last kick and message from this PO can make it, he has all the tools, and it is becoming a young legs game. He showed glimpses of his capabilities last season, he knows what are his gaps and he should be ready for it next season. He can succeed as Top 6 player in this league.

- Keith25


Frost is not going to be ready to be a first line NHL Center next season. He's not even a guarantee to make the starting lineup out of camp.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 16 @ 1:57 PM ET
Couturier is still the first-line center and Hayes at C2. In terms of LW1, it's still Giroux unless someone else steps up.
- bmeltzer


I would like to see the following lines. I am assuming resignings.

Lindblom-Coots-Voracek
Farabee-Hayes-TK
G-NoPa-JVR
Raffl-Laughton-NAK

Balanced scoring and defensive responsibility.
flyav
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 16 @ 2:11 PM ET
Hopefully Frost will be ready to go at 3C. Would like to see G on his wing to help with draws and create offense with more favorable matchups.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
I would like to see the following lines. I am assuming resignings.

Lindblom-Coots-Voracek
Farabee-Hayes-TK
G-NoPa-JVR
Raffl-Laughton-NAK

Balanced scoring and defensive responsibility.

- mickel25


Man.. I just pray that Nopa can get back and play again. 50/50 proposition right now..
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: VA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Sep 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
Bill- I am assuming Patrick would have to clear waivers to get sent to Phantoms? If the AHL has a season in 20-21, I think him and Morin could benefit. My apologies for not knowing the contract status.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
Unless the team knows something we don’t, they cannot count on Patrick being part of the team. I don’t like the idea of tying up cap dollars on a middle 6 FA center either.

I think the best bet might be to pencil in Frost with Laughton on his LW to take faceoffs. I’d give him as many O zone starts as possible too.

- BiggE


I'd tender him his Q.O. and see if he accepts.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Sep 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
Unless the team knows something we don’t, they cannot count on Patrick being part of the team. I don’t like the idea of tying up cap dollars on a middle 6 FA center either.

I think the best bet might be to pencil in Frost with Laughton on his LW to take faceoffs. I’d give him as many O zone starts as possible too.

- BiggE



interesting thought with Laughton and Frost
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