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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Eklund: Your Rumor Fix: On Brodin, Dumba, Fleury and Fast... [email protected]
Leafs24seven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 16 @ 1:04 PM ET


taylor hall landing spots?
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 16 @ 1:04 PM ET
Toronto and MAF makes no sense. To get him and have Vegas retain would require a first or a good roster player. That's a massive over payment when they have a guy who's about just as good, especially considering contract duration.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Sep 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Hey Ek. Isn't Guerin's timing really awful? If he was trying to discuss a Dumba trade last week, he was in a strong bargaining position as he could always bluff and say that he'll just keep Dumba and maybe hang up the phone to talk to team X about trading for Brodin instead.

Now that he handed Brodin a NMC, the other 30 GMs basically know he has to move Dumba. Guerin lost all of his leverage. The low-ball offers will commence.

Surprised you and your sources think this is such a great move. He should have made a handshake deal with Brodin to announce this after he extracts max value in a Dumba trade. But I also think Guerin is a fool, whereas we know you love him.
diabeticmik3
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: United States, CA
Joined: 06.18.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
Why would Vegas send Fluery to San Jose? They wouldn't do a deal to make them better
SHOPLIFTER
Location: Lying and stealing, PA
Joined: 02.25.2020

Sep 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
Abadseed
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington hts, IL
Joined: 01.20.2014

Sep 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
To get rid of his contract
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Sep 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Hey Ek. Isn't Guerin's timing really awful? If he was trying to discuss a Dumba trade last week, he was in a strong bargaining position as he could always bluff and say that he'll just keep Dumba and maybe hang up the phone to talk to team X about trading for Brodin instead.

Now that he handed Brodin a NMC, the other 30 GMs basically know he has to move Dumba. Guerin lost all of his leverage. The low-ball offers will commence.

Surprised you and your sources think this is such a great move. He should have made a handshake deal with Brodin to announce this after he extracts max value in a Dumba trade. But I also think Guerin is a fool, whereas we know you love him.

- Kooleus


If Guerin would have put Dumba on the market before signing Brodin, Brodin's agent would have had the leverage to sign for more money... ever thought of that?
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Hey Ek. Isn't Guerin's timing really awful? If he was trying to discuss a Dumba trade last week, he was in a strong bargaining position as he could always bluff and say that he'll just keep Dumba and maybe hang up the phone to talk to team X about trading for Brodin instead.

Now that he handed Brodin a NMC, the other 30 GMs basically know he has to move Dumba. Guerin lost all of his leverage. The low-ball offers will commence.

Surprised you and your sources think this is such a great move. He should have made a handshake deal with Brodin to announce this after he extracts max value in a Dumba trade. But I also think Guerin is a fool, whereas we know you love him.

- Kooleus

is there any executive he doesnt? he praises them all
WayneZ
Season Ticket Holder
New Jersey Devils
Location: Ruff and Fitz, that was the best we could do?, VA
Joined: 01.28.2008

Sep 16 @ 1:20 PM ET
I find it hard to be excited by player movement. This whole "Late January, Early February" estimated season start date has taken the wind from my sails. I haven't seen a devils logo on the ice in what seems like a decade.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Sep 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
Nobody is driving up the Rangers price for Fast ---- Rangers aren't signing him!
Komisaurus Rex
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Sep 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
Driving the price up for Fast? Nahhhh



We already have a better similar style player in Lehky. Habs need game changers not more scrubs.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Sep 16 @ 1:45 PM ET
If Guerin would have put Dumba on the market before signing Brodin, Brodin's agent would have had the leverage to sign for more money... ever thought of that?
- Not_Yan


So you think Brodin could have actually got MORE money than this? $42M and a NMC already suggests that Guerin was run over in negotiations.

But OK. I'll play along. If Dumba was traded then what does Brodin get...$6.5M instead of $6M? So let's see:

Option 1 - Lose badly on a Dumba trade. But lock up Brodin for $6M.
Option 2 - Win a Dumba trade. But pay an extra $500K to Brodin.

I like smart asset management so I take Option 2 all day long. And I'm not even sure Dumba being traded allows Brodin to squeeze out more money anyway. $42M and a NMC is already embarassing for Guerin.
HenryHockey
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Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Sep 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
Buzz exclusive!
Sharks trade Brent Burns ($1.5M salerary retained) and the Avs 2nd for Will Nylander!!
Gusrichards
Season Ticket Holder
Minnesota Wild
Location: Duluth, MN
Joined: 02.22.2012

Sep 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
The rumors on Brodin was he was looking at Suter/Spurgeon money, so in excess of $7.5 mil. And it's not really a stretch for Guerin to say that he is keeping all 4 Dmen as well when dealing with the Seattle expansion draft. Keeping 8 skaters would allow them to keep all 4 dmen. And, if you really look at the roster, are there really more than 4 forwards that would be difficult to replace from the Wild's roster?

Basically, Guerin has just said "come to me with your best offer for Dumba, or don't call" to the entire NHL. We all knew that Brodin was going to be staying in MN and that Dumba was the better of the trade chips.
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Sep 16 @ 2:05 PM ET
So you think Brodin could have actually got MORE money than this? $42M and a NMC already suggests that Guerin was run over in negotiations.

But OK. I'll play along. If Dumba was traded then what does Brodin get...$6.5M instead of $6M? So let's see:

Option 1 - Lose badly on a Dumba trade. But lock up Brodin for $6M.
Option 2 - Win a Dumba trade. But pay an extra $500K to Brodin.

I like smart asset management so I take Option 2 all day long. And I'm not even sure Dumba being traded allows Brodin to squeeze out more money anyway. $42M and a NMC is already embarassing for Guerin.

- Kooleus


I don't see how Guerin can LOSE BADLY on a Dumba trade (26 years old, excellent value), and why he should be EMBARASSED by locking up Brodin to a market value deal.

To each his own.
EyeLikePie
San Jose Sharks
Location: Monterey Bay, CA
Joined: 08.13.2009

Sep 16 @ 2:07 PM ET
Buzz exclusive!
Sharks trade Brent Burns ($1.5M salerary retained) and the Avs 2nd for Will Nylander!!

- HenryHockey


MAN! I was excited about this swap... got me!
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
How are the Sharks trading for MAF? Is Martin Jones retiring? 4 years left at 5.75 mil AAV with a NTC.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: I’m always right, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 2:27 PM ET
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: I’m always right, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 16 @ 2:29 PM ET
JonnyGar
New Jersey Devils
Location: Sussex, NJ
Joined: 08.13.2016

Sep 16 @ 2:45 PM ET
I hope the Devil's sign Jasper Fast. Make a line of Jesper Bratt on Center, Jesper Boqvist on the left and Jasper Fast on Right. What would call this line? J cubed line?
Not_Yan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Sep 16 @ 2:47 PM ET
I hope the Devil's sign Jasper Fast. Make a line of Jesper Bratt on Center, Jesper Boqvist on the left and Jasper Fast on Right. What would call this line? J cubed line?
- JonnyGar



the JESPERFECT line
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Sep 16 @ 3:15 PM ET
The rumors on Brodin was he was looking at Suter/Spurgeon money, so in excess of $7.5 mil. And it's not really a stretch for Guerin to say that he is keeping all 4 Dmen as well when dealing with the Seattle expansion draft. Keeping 8 skaters would allow them to keep all 4 dmen. And, if you really look at the roster, are there really more than 4 forwards that would be difficult to replace from the Wild's roster?

Basically, Guerin has just said "come to me with your best offer for Dumba, or don't call" to the entire NHL. We all knew that Brodin was going to be staying in MN and that Dumba was the better of the trade chips.

- Gusrichards


So protect Dumba and then lose a kid like Eriksson-Ek, Greenway, Donato, Kunin? Not how I'd manage assets. As I said, all you had to do was agree to a handshake deal with Brodin. This is what we're doing, but let's keep it quiet for a month so I can improve my bargaining power in trade talks. Savvy GMs do that. Guys like Guerinn don't.
patersonnick46
Location: Keyport, NJ
Joined: 08.26.2018

Sep 16 @ 3:21 PM ET
I am sure Fast will wind up in Philly!
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Sep 16 @ 3:44 PM ET
Where’s Malkin going today Ek ?

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