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hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
How is the weather over that way today?
- bixll


Not so bad. Windy, but often is here. 18-20c.....overcast.

Why, you guys getting some foul weather or something???
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 17 @ 10:20 AM ET
It's beacuse Dubas didn't sign him. It's bad. Holl deal is far better and people on here think he's overpaid.
- RogerRoeper


Sorry Roger, this is baloney. I am totally biased, that said, there are very few good deals on the Leafs at the moment.
Reilly - good deal
Hyman - good deal
Andersen - good deal (this one is open to debate)
Campbell - good deal

There are a few ok deals like Nylander perhaps but no other bargains I can see realistically. You want to see some good deals? Check out the Bruins on cap friendly - they have several, and not too many bad ones either.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:20 AM ET
What if the Habs trade Price and roll with Allen? Or what if, they only got Allen because he is a capable back up and the Habs want to give Price some rest?
- PatC80



15 million on goalies is fine. But 40 million on 4 forwards...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:21 AM ET
THe signing bonuses are a massive advantage. It's a bigger advantage that "Taxes" peopel whine about. Pietrangelo can get, what 13 million placed in his account the morning he signs.
- RogerRoeper


must be why dubas signs all of our players at discounts. making good use of those signing bonuses
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:21 AM ET
I'm saving so much money because of covid that I'm dumping it all into aftermarket bike parts for tinkering and building a cx bike. It's a terrible habit to form.
- TheMussel

Im doing the same lol
Bought a used full suspension, now just tinkering.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:21 AM ET
Sorry Roger, this is baloney. I am totally biased, that said, there are very few good deals on the Leafs at the moment.
Reilly - good deal
Hyman - good deal
Andersen - good deal (this one is open to debate)
Campbell - good deal

There are a few ok deals like Nylander perhaps but no other bargains I can see realistically. You want to see some good deals? Check out the Bruins on cap friendly - they have several, and not too many bad ones either.

- winsix


Who can't you trade on the Leafs? And Bruins players signed very high deals at the time they were signed. Did you know Marchand had worse numbers than Nylander? And Coyle is a real bad recent one.

My point is Leafs idea of a "Bad Contract" is Mitch Marner. Other teams have Ladd, Skinner, Bobrovsky ETC.

If Marner was a 1 time 60 point player when he signed his deal he's get much lower. He had 94 points. He had 69 playing a lot on the 3rd line the year before...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 10:22 AM ET
Not so bad. Windy, but often is here. 18-20c.....overcast.

Why, you guys getting some foul weather or something???

- hawk35



Windy last night and cold the past 2 days, compared to what we were getting. I was just curious.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 17 @ 10:22 AM ET
At this point, I'm starting to wish the rest of these pages would stop loading.
- mjones242


Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:22 AM ET
15 million on goalies is fine. But 40 million on 4 forwards...
- RogerRoeper


habs don't look at team that is winning the cup any time soon.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:22 AM ET
What if the Habs trade Price and roll with Allen? Or what if, they only got Allen because he is a capable back up and the Habs want to give Price some rest?
- PatC80


DONE!!! Price to Leafs for Nylander, Hyman and a 2nd. Leafs got their goalie...Habs rid a brutal contract. All parties are Habby!!!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:24 AM ET
DONE!!! Price to Leafs for Nylander, Hyman and a 2nd. Leafs got their goalie...Habs rid a brutal contract. All parties are Habby!!!
- hawk35


Yeah.... no
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:25 AM ET
I am against signing Pietrangelo and did't think Leafs would now I think they may sign him.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:25 AM ET
Hopefully, it works in the Leafs favour.. Maybe he noticed that Tavares got $15M as a bonus.. Wants the same
- PatC80


We can hope, I still tend to think this is all posturing from Pietro's side, but if he actually makes it to UFA, then its possible.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
Yeah.... no
- Scabeh

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
THe signing bonuses are a massive advantage. It's a bigger advantage that "Taxes" peopel whine about. Pietrangelo can get, what 13 million placed in his account the morning he signs.
- RogerRoeper


20% escrow in years one and two ....and 10% deferral in year one.

I'm thinking players will want the bigger payday to be in years 3+.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
Who can't you trade on the Leafs? And Bruins players signed very high deals at the time they were signed. Did you know Marchand had worse numbers than Nylander? And Coyle is a real bad recent one.

My point is Leafs idea of a "Bad Contract" is Mitch Marner. Other teams have Ladd, Skinner, Bobrovsky ETC.

If Marner was a 1 time 60 point player when he signed his deal he's get much lower. He had 94 points. He had 69 playing a lot on the 3rd line the year before...

- RogerRoeper


Roger... this is not some sort of videogame of 'which team has the most contracts it can trade'.
This is about winning hockey games and the Stanley Cup.
all the rest, including # of goals scored, how great the team looks 'on paper' and other similar less relevant things shouldn't matter. it's about winning.
you can keep on repeating that Nylander is better than Marchand - but Bruins have consistently outperformed the Leafs over the last years.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 10:26 AM ET
Yeah.... no
- Scabeh

no both ways.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
T.O. but hoping to make it out of the city and out to simcoe for a solo overnight trip in the next couple of weeks
- TheMussel

i usually ride at kelso as i live in milton, but hydrocuts is good as well.
Need to get up to blue mountain to try, but you gotta pay to get up the mountain.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
These idiots come on here for reaction.

If nobody replied to their posts, they'd be gone.

- Atomic Wedgie


I get it and admit I was weak.

We can handle a mix of hockey, music, food, Zezel’s sex life and political discussion with just about anybody except those two and a few of the crazies that drop by occasionally. There are people , like Tumbleweed, that I disagree with vehemently but can talk to.

But yeah, I get sucked in with those guys and I end up pissed off because I’m scared poopless about what’s going on in the States.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
Who can't you trade on the Leafs? And Bruins players signed very high deals at the time they were signed. Did you know Marchand had worse numbers than Nylander? And Coyle is a real bad recent one.

My point is Leafs idea of a "Bad Contract" is Mitch Marner. Other teams have Ladd, Skinner, Bobrovsky ETC.

If Marner was a 1 time 60 point player when he signed his deal he's get much lower. He had 94 points. He had 69 playing a lot on the 3rd line the year before...

- RogerRoeper


Numbers, numbers, numbers.....

It is why these "Number" GMs will never build a Cup winner. You gotta look at the WHOLE hockey player.
Any twit who would covet Nylander over Marchant (and I hate the little rat) knows as much about hockey as I know about nuclear physics (which is squat).

Nylander wouldn't wipe Brad's big nose when it comes to building a winning hockey team. These comparison's are so lame....
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
Not so bad. Windy, but often is here. 18-20c.....overcast.

Why, you guys getting some foul weather or something???

- hawk35


They did have that Awful David Backes deal, no idea how they managed to get rid of that one.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
20% escrow in years one and two ....and 10% deferral in year one.

I'm thinking players will want the bigger payday to be in years 3+.

- The Law

I find it hard to believe that 20% escrow in year one is going to cover it.

I'd put it at 50%.

It's going to get awkward when teams have to claw back money they've already paid out.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 17 @ 10:28 AM ET
20% escrow in years one and two ....and 10% deferral in year one.

I'm thinking players will want the bigger payday to be in years 3+.

- The Law


brodin, edmunson and walker are structured close to that. bigger money in years 2, 3 or 4 and beyond.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
Numbers, numbers, numbers.....

It is why these "Number" GMs will never build a Cup winner. You gotta look at the WHOLE hockey player.
Any twit who would covet Nylander over Marchant (and I hate the little rat) knows as much about hockey as I know about nuclear physics (which is squat).


Nylander wouldn't wipe Brad's big nose when it comes to building a winning hockey team. These comparison's are so lame....

- hawk35


I never said that and no one thinks that. You're not getting my comment. It was simply using facts and overall perspective on the idea Marchand is so underpaid and took a pay cut. He simply could not have asked for more at the time. Same with Bergeron.

It's like the idea Mackinnon took a paycut, right? These players use numbers to get their money.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 17 @ 10:29 AM ET
I couldn't find my wallet yesterday.

Found it where I left it Friday afternoon.

- Atomic Wedgie


Last place you looked?
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