Canadian death rate is more than twice what it is in the US.

Oops.
- JohnFergusonJr

Sorry UG, you're full of poop. 201K plus deaths with over 1000 deaths per day over the last month or so for a population of 328 million is much greater rate than 9193 deaths for a popualtion of about 37.6 million. With a death rate of about 10 or less per day over the past month. Did you even check the stats?

Having the President commit negligent homicide doesn't help either
- Canada Cup

Frank off with your science.

Waiters say masks are ineffective.

Remember when they announced that Kushner was putting together a high powered team to work on testing. They actually did and pulled together an impressive group that came up with a detailed plan that went to Kushner and Trump and then died.

None of them could figure out why because they knew it would save lives. Some of them eventually found out it was of no interest since the virus was kicking the poop out of democratic states; you know, "those Americans".
- Canada Cup

You have to understand that without a proper contact tracing system put in place (a gigantic task for big regions/countries; starting off with the number of people needed to properly execute such a plan) increasing testing of those not ill and in need of treatment in hospital is basically throwing away money and other scarce resources just for window dressing.

Sorry UG, you're full of poop. 201K plus deaths with over 1000 deaths per day over the last month or so for a population of 328 million is much greater rate than 9193 deaths for a popualtion of about 37.6 million. With a death rate of about 10 or less per day over the past month. Did you even check the stats?
- winsix

No he didn’t

Sorry UG, you're full of poop. 201K plus deaths with over 1000 deaths per day over the last month or so for a population of 328 million is much greater rate than 9193 deaths for a popualtion of about 37.6 million. With a death rate of about 10 or less per day over the past month. Did you even check the stats?
- winsix

6.6% > 2.9%.

6.6% > 2.9%.
- JohnFergusonJr

US: 6,493,269 confirmed cases
Canada: 140,900 confirmed cases

US: 59.84 deaths / 100k population
Canada: 24.93 deaths / 100k population

6.6% > 2.9%
- JohnFergusonJr

As normal, genius level logic going on here.

And I'm going to take a wild guess that those numbers will converge a tiny bit in the next few months.

Because Florida.
- Atomic Wedgie

How are they going to converge when the US is adding 35-40,000 cases a day with new growth through the mid west? Where are we, less than 1,000?

US: 6,493,269 confirmed cases
Canada: 140,900 confirmed cases

US: 59.84 deaths / 100k population
Canada: 24.93 deaths / 100k population


- Steven_Seagull

He's taking covid deaths/confirmed cases.

Literally the most useless statistic to evaluate Covid response. But it's the only one in the US favour.

Comparing Canada numbers with US numbers as if it would somehow be an indication for the countries' quality of response to covid is just ignorant.

He's taking covid deaths/confirmed cases.

Literally the most useless statistic to evaluate Covid response. But it's the only one in the US favour.
- Leafs43

He will always try to defend his boy Fat Nixon.

US: 6,493,269 confirmed cases
Canada: 140,900 confirmed cases

US: 59.84 deaths / 100k population
Canada: 24.93 deaths / 100k population


- Steven_Seagull

Yeah but he's talking about deaths per infected.
But if he did deaths per population he would be out in the stratosphere.

How are they going to converge when the US is adding 35-40,000 cases a day with new growth through the mid west? Where are we, less than 1,000?
- Canada Cup

And by "converge" I meant "seperate."

Whoops

Comparing Canada numbers with US numbers as if it would somehow be an indication for the countries' quality of response to covid is just ignorant.
- MaximusAurelius

Spain: 603,167 confirmed cases, 64.22 deaths / 100k population

He's taking covid deaths/confirmed cases.

Literally the most useless statistic to evaluate Covid response. But it's the only one in the US favour.
- Leafs43

But it's really not, cause the death rate in the US has skyrocketed and a lot are assumed to be because of covid but not verified.

You have to understand that without a proper contact tracing system put in place (a gigantic task for big regions/countries; starting off with the number of people needed to properly execute such a plan) increasing testing of those not ill and in need of treatment in hospital is basically throwing away money and other scarce resources just for window dressing.
- MaximusAurelius

Thanks Doc. The plan they developed had both elements. Trump deep sixed it

And by "converge" I meant "seperate."

Whoops
- Atomic Wedgie

So I win?

He's taking covid deaths/confirmed cases.

Literally the most useless statistic to evaluate Covid response. But it's the only one in the US favour.
- Leafs43

Using selective stats, good grief.

Spain: 603,167 confirmed cases, 64.22 deaths / 100k population
- Steven_Seagull

It says nothing to compare the different countries numbers.
What you need to look at is how different countries have responded last couple of months in order to be ready for coming months.
Spain will be a disaster (MDs being giving the additional task of contact tracing as if that wasn't a full time job) like many other countries.
Less populated regions will do better than more populated areas, and small countries (in particular with natural borders like seas and mountains) will have an easier task compared to countries and regions with big populations.
Us will be a poopshow.
Same for France, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Belgium, UK.
Canada will do relatively well, same as Norway, Switzerland, Lux and some other countries with good public health systems and relatively few densly populated areas.
It will be interesting to see how Germany will do.

Why can’t I post those graphs. It works in preview.


Anyway. Holl > Edmundson.

Habs signed Edmundson 4x3.5

Thanks Doc. The plan they developed had both elements. Trump deep sixed it
- Canada Cup

It is literally impossible for big countries / regions to set up such a tracing system for covid due to the easy transmission - that is, unless you set up the system end Dec/early January.
None of us were talking covid at that time.
I know you like to bash Trump - but in this case he was actually right to shelf those plans (not saying he shelved them for the right reasons btw)

Comparing Canada numbers with US numbers as if it would somehow be an indication for the countries' quality of response to covid is just ignorant.
- MaximusAurelius

Fine. Let's not compare and just put it this way.

The United States is the richest country in the world. Trump knew in January how bad this virus was. He deliberately downplayed it for personal political and refused to take the most basic steps to protect the lives of his citizens. He could have mobilized the resources of the country to fight the virus. He could have told people it was serious. He refused to do so.

No comparison necessary because no other country in the world would behave that way. And don't China me because there's no comparison.

Fine. Let's not compare and just put it this way.

The United States is the richest country in the world. Trump knew in January how bad this virus was. He deliberately downplayed it for personal political and refused to take the most basic steps to protect the lives of his citizens. He could have mobilized the resources of the country to fight the virus. He could have told people it was serious. He refused to do so.

No comparison necessary because no other country in the world would behave that way. And don't China me because there's no comparison.
- Canada Cup

Fat Nixon called it a hoax.

It is literally impossible for big countries / regions to set up such a tracing system for covid due to the easy transmission - that is, unless you set up the system end Dec/early January.
None of us were talking covid at that time.
I know you like to bash Trump - but in this case he was actually right to shelf those plans (not saying he shelved them for the right reasons btw)
- MaximusAurelius

Horsehit. The most rudimentary testing and contact tracing system is better than none. And don't pretend to know enough to reject a plan you have never heard about. I'm not sure why I'm surprised but your arrogance is astounding

Fine. Let's not compare and just put it this way.

The United States is the richest country in the world. Trump knew in January how bad this virus was. He deliberately downplayed it for personal political and refused to take the most basic steps to protect the lives of his citizens. He could have mobilized the resources of the country to fight the virus. He could have told people it was serious. He refused to do so.

No comparison necessary because no other country in the world would behave that way. And don't China me because there's no comparison.
- Canada Cup

Every politician in the world - maybe with the exception of a few in East Asian countries (who had had the previous experience with SARS) failed to recognize that this epidemic would have such an impact.
WHO failed to recognize this until mid / late Feb (don"t have the specific dates in mind, but I don't think I'm that far off).

Any change of rhetoric or history rewriting is a dishonest attempt to influence the elections.