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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 17 @ 5:59 PM ET
May be tight with the cap. Would love more years for him, though. I think the kid is going to be a legit 2 or 3 dman.
- BenderRodriguez


Depends on what the others sign. Hägg and back-up, I cannot imagine Patrick will be more than 1M for 1 year.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 6:00 PM ET
2x3ish. If they can move a contract (ghost) before they sign him, I could see a longer deal for more AAV.
- BenderRodriguez


A negotiation has to be a give and take. Myers is a rookie. If a team offers a player like Myers more term, it's to get a lower cap hit down the road.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 17 @ 6:01 PM ET
A negotiation has to be a give and take. Myers is a rookie. If a team offers a player like Myers more term, it's to get a lower cap hit down the road.
- MJL

Yup, and with him I would not mind that at all if he’s willing to go long on term.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Sep 17 @ 6:04 PM ET
Depends on what the others sign. Hägg and back-up, I cannot imagine Patrick will be more than 1M for 1 year.
- NC Flyers Fan


Sure. And in a perfect world they should have a little wiggle room against the cap. They have the space, but it's tight IMO.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
I’m really curious what the return for Ghost would be. On one hand we know the struggles. On the other, who else is shopping a pretty young puck moving d man?
- hereticpride

jake gardiner is one. Subban is another possibly. Yes not young but puck moving.

Ghost just needs to be moved for the betterment of everyone if he isnt going to play. If he finds success elsewhere so be it.

What teams would even want him? Arizona only has a few guys under contract after this year. I myself think the oilers would. Winnipeg? Don't think the market is all that big.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Sep 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
A negotiation has to be a give and take. Myers is a rookie. If a team offers a player like Myers more term, it's to get a lower cap hit down the road.
- MJL


I agree. I just don't think he takes less then 3m AAV if you're going longer than 2 or 3 years.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
I think Patrick Laine, Max Domi and Jake DeBrusk would be great trade targets here. What you give up for them, I obviously don’t have an answer. Domi is a young up and coming center, which would be a nice replacement if Patrick cannot return (I think he will). Laine the obvious sniper with size we're missing. Jake DeBrusk is interesting because he’s exactly the gritty, tough, hard working middle six player we’re missing

Maybe it isn’t likely they take Ghost or JvR but I’m working those phones if I’m fletch.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
I’m really curious what the return for Ghost would be. On one hand we know the struggles. On the other, who else is shopping a pretty young puck moving d man?
- hereticpride


For sure there are teams looking for defenseman and his contract isn’t bad. Probably a hockey trade, a combination of draft pick swap, a couple prospects or a young player with potential who is off track and also needs a change of scenery.
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
For sure there are teams looking for defenseman and his contract isn’t bad. Probably a hockey trade, a combination of draft pick swap, a couple prospects or a young player with potential who is off track and also needs a change of scenery.
- NC Flyers Fan

what teams?
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 17 @ 6:14 PM ET
what teams?
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You just listed a few. You need me to find some more.

Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Sep 17 @ 6:15 PM ET
Sorry yes. This is a message board. If someone wants a private interaction, that is why there is a private message system. Any question asked on the open board is free game to be answered by whomever chooses to.
- MJL

You know how this works. The guy asked Bill specifically. Bill usually answers at some point. Let the guy have his .
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
You know how this works. The guy asked Bill specifically. Bill usually answers at some point. Let the guy have his .
- Angus4444


Yes I do know how this works as I've explained to you. I guess because someone else chose to answer, Bill is now prevented from answering? You were out of line. Man up!
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Sep 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Yes I do know how this works as I've explained to you. I guess because someone else chose to answer, Bill is now prevented from answering? You were out of line. Man up!
- MJL

Prevented ? You need to take a timeout in a safe space . And what line would that be.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Sep 17 @ 6:21 PM ET
I think Patrick Laine, Max Domi and Jake DeBrusk would be great trade targets here. What you give up for them, I obviously don’t have an answer. Domi is a young up and coming center, which would be a nice replacement if Patrick cannot return (I think he will). Laine the obvious sniper with size we're missing. Jake DeBrusk is interesting because he’s exactly the gritty, tough, hard working middle six player we’re missing

Maybe it isn’t likely they take Ghost or JvR but I’m working those phones if I’m fletch.

- SuperSchennBros

I like Domi but consistency seems to be an issue with him.

I would love to add Laine to this lineup but it’s going to cost us far more than we’re willing to part with probably. Winnipeg needs defense and I don’t see us parting with anyone (sans Ghost, who is not going to get a Laine deal done)
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Sep 17 @ 6:24 PM ET
You just listed a few. You need me to find some more.
- NC Flyers Fan

Yes as honestly I don’t see many off the top of my head
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 17 @ 7:30 PM ET
A negotiation has to be a give and take. Myers is a rookie. If a team offers a player like Myers more term, it's to get a lower cap hit down the road.
- MJL

If it’s two or three years I can’t see it being more than sanhiem.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 17 @ 7:31 PM ET
I agree. I just don't think he takes less then 3m AAV if you're going longer than 2 or 3 years.
- BenderRodriguez

Agree but can’t be much more. Otherwise it’s two years at 3. Prove more.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 17 @ 7:32 PM ET
what teams?
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Prob about almost all of them, quite possible maybe but probably.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 17 @ 7:35 PM ET
NAK done. All part of the plan


Arizona. Tough year to be sellers already.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 17 @ 7:39 PM ET
Minnesota has to be one of the dumbest teams in league. Johansen plays better at wing than center. Whenever played at center hasn’t worked out. And he makes more than staal. This trade make absolutely zero sense. Pretty sure staal wasn’t requesting to go to buffalo so why not just put it out there he’s available. Surely could’ve gotten better. Good for buffalo tho
- SMS4016



They dont plan on using him a Center. MoJo is winger. Dumba is expected to bring in the C they want
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 17 @ 7:52 PM ET
We have a divergence of opinion, ladies and gentlemen.

More to the point though, Tavares apparently talked with 6 teams. So the answer is somewhere in between.

- PT21


No we don’t. If you quoted my whole statement you would have realized what I said. He was not going to sign with another team in the Metro out of respect for the Isles. He literally said that. In the end, it really came down to the Isles or the Leafs.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 17 @ 7:55 PM ET
Any interest in Athanasiou? TSN Reports:

Scoop: The Oilers are seeking to move Athanasiou before he is due a $3 million qualifying offer by Oct. 7 at 5 p.m. ET – a minimum price that Edmonton cannot afford to pay. Athanasiou is always intriguing because of both his speed and his 30-goal season, but he certainly didn’t produce for the Oilers in a limited 13-game showing (including a qualifying-series loss). Oilers GM Ken Holland is between a rock and a hard place on this one. Holland gave up two second-round picks for Athanasiou at the deadline. Now, teams are thinking he’ll let Athanasiou walk for nothing in the absence of a QO, limiting the return on a trade for his rights.

He could add some speed to our lineup
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 7:58 PM ET
NAK is back One RFA down. Anyone want to guess a little on Myers?
- NC Flyers Fan

3/10mil
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 17 @ 7:59 PM ET
Any interest in Athanasiou? TSN Reports:


He could add some speed to our lineup

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I like him but the Flyers don’t have the cap space for him really. Also, is He playing on the third line? He doesn’t break the top 6 on this team.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Sep 17 @ 8:01 PM ET
They dont plan on using him a Center. MoJo is winger. Dumba is expected to bring in the C they want
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

If they plan on using him as a winger it’s even worse. You don’t trade center for winger who’s paid more with less production. Bad trade for trades sake
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