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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
If Leafs would add 2 new d-man on that top4 (was was proposed/discussed), it would be Muzzin that would be exposed.
Surely a deal can be worked out with Seattle as well in order for Leafs to keep the four d-men.

btw - Leafs also could opt to protect 8 skaters instead of 7fw, 3d -- e.g. in my example Rielly - Savard - Muzzin - Leddy & Matthews - Tavares - Marner - Hyman. (willy traded)

- MaximusAurelius


Muzzin has a NMC for 20-21. I dont think they can expose him.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 18 @ 10:46 AM ET
Pietrangelo may not be able to play the whole game but, with Rielly, we would have a 1-2 punch that can play huge minutes and all situations.

If a player of this calibre - a game changer and a former Cup-winning Captain - like this is available you do everything in your power to add him to your lineup.

Holl may be mediocre but he's not terrible. Lehtonen may turn out to be a capable defender, so I'm thinking Muzzin with one of those two should be decent enough to ride at least until the TDL.

- mjones242



Im not going to be pissed if we sign Pietrangelo. He's an amazing player, an excellent fit... Who could be chapped over that?

I just think there's a better route.

And it's the 'should be decent enough' that comes after that makes me go that secondary route. 'next TDL'.

I don't want to (frank) around with the blueline anymore, we've seen decades of patchwork solutions with the premise being there will be room to address the shortcomings down the road. There never is and it never does.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 10:48 AM ET
Maybe I was thinking of someone else. Looking at this GP, it looks like you were right.
- Archaic

My guess is you were thinking of Parise.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
Muzzin has a NMC for 20-21. I dont think they can expose him.
- Archaic


They can. I know Mirtle explain this. He' d have to have it 21-22 for him to be not exposed
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
I don't want Suter because I hated his dad more than any other player of the era.
- Atomic Wedgie



His Dad didn't play one game in the NHL ?? Bob Suter
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 10:49 AM ET
Rielly was 5th in Norris voting last year, If he's healthy he's a #1 D. He's in his prime these next few years.
- RogerRoeper

I'm pissed that a few of us have to keep saying this.

FFS, he was injured throughout this year.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 18 @ 10:50 AM ET
Leafs have a different opinion on him than you do that’s why.

Imagine that?

- Santo_44


So? Yeah, they obviously like him more than me. That means literally nothing, though.

Holl is a career nothing that had played, at most, half a season in the NHL by the time of his contract extension at the age of 27 (almost 28). It's (frank)ing ludicrous to give such a player a no trade clause of any sort. This really shouldn't even be debatable.

This has nothing to do with my opinion of the player. It has everything to do with a player of Holl's caliber never, ever, needing a (frank)ing no trade clause in their contract.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 10:51 AM ET
His Dad didn't play one game in the NHL ?? Bob Suter
- bixll

I hated his uncle so much, I hated his uncle's brother.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
I hated his uncle so much, I hated his uncle's brother.
- Atomic Wedgie


Gary.. Ended 99's career.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Plus, he sucks.
- fifty__missions


I agree. Leafs don't, which is fine, but in no world should he get a no trade clause.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Larsson and Murphy arent that good. I wouldnt waste assets on them.

Parayko IMO isnt getting traded even if the Blues resign Petro. Id love to have him, I just think its a pipe dream.

- Archaic


Man... If they resign Pietrangelo, something gotta budge on that blueline. Scandella isn't going anywhere, and I'm not sure Faulk or Dunn are either.

Would be interesting...
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Sep 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
They can. I know Mirtle explain this. He' d have to have it 21-22 for him to be not exposed
- RogerRoeper


I wasnt certain, as I thought the expansion draft was before free agency. Either way, not sure why the Leafs would want to expose Muzzin if they signed TJ brodie/Brendan Dillon etc. I know they have Sandin, but still
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Edmondson just got one.
- RogerRoeper


Did he? Well, glad to see other teams making bad decisions, too.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
Rielly was 5th in Norris voting last year, If he's healthy he's a #1 D. He's in his prime these next few years.
- RogerRoeper


Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 10:53 AM ET
So? Yeah, they obviously like him more than me. That means literally nothing, though.

Holl is a career nothing that had played, at most, half a season in the NHL by the time of his contract extension at the age of 27 (almost 28). It's (frank)ing ludicrous to give such a player a no trade clause of any sort. This really shouldn't even be debatable.

This has nothing to do with my opinion of the player. It has everything to do with a player of Holl's caliber never, ever, needing a (frank)ing no trade clause in their contract.

- GreatGigInTheSky

It's limited - 10 team no trade.

If it lowered his cap hit during negotiations, let's just live with it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
Gary.. Ended 99's career.
- bixll

And Kariya's.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Sep 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective

- senstroll


He does, but I think there's still room to grow there.

Especially if he can be afforded the luxury of having a partner who isn't a complete tire fire.

The best partner he's had through his career has been Ron Hainsey. Let's just let that marinade for a second...
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
Man... If they resign Pietrangelo, something gotta budge on that blueline. Scandella isn't going anywhere, and I'm not sure Faulk or Dunn are either.

Would be interesting...

- joel878


That’s the point IMO. There are good options (trade of FA) for less and this may be a time where the best just might not be viable.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
Rielly was 5th in Norris voting last year, If he's healthy he's a #1 D. He's in his prime these next few years.
- RogerRoeper


so we should trust Norris voting, but not the Jim Gregory voting, correct...?

(n.b. Rielly is indeed a #1D - your argument is just strange considering your previous comments on Lou)
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
He does, but I think there's still room to grow there.

Especially if he can be afforded the luxury of having a partner who isn't a complete tire fire.

The best partner he's had through his career has been Ron Hainsey. Let's just let that marinade for a second...

- joel878

I heard Mats Sundin calls him from time to time to tell him he knows what he is going through.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 18 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yes. Do you not get that TRotz system helps everyone look a little better defensively? He was a train wreck prior to Trotz getting there.
- RogerRoeper


???

I thought it was all the awesome goalies. 🧐
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 18 @ 10:58 AM ET
Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective

- senstroll



Put him in Florida and everyone is blowing him. His defensive issues are overhyped badly.
He was robbed of a finalist nom last year for the Norris.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 18 @ 10:58 AM ET
???

I thought it was all the awesome goalies. 🧐

- Garnie


It's Trotz no doubt.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective

- senstroll



Erik Karlsson had big defensive shortcomings - but I don't think that anyone would argue that (pre injury) he wasn't a #1D
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:00 AM ET
so we should trust Norris voting, but not the Jim Gregory voting, correct...?

(n.b. Rielly is indeed a #1D - your argument is just strange considering your previous comments on Lou)

- MaximusAurelius


Jim Gregory award is voted on after the 2nd round. They keep nominating the Gms in the final 4. It's obviously flawed.

And BTW, Rielly should have been a top 3 finalist. Look at his numbers. it was flawed
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