Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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If Leafs would add 2 new d-man on that top4 (was was proposed/discussed), it would be Muzzin that would be exposed.
Surely a deal can be worked out with Seattle as well in order for Leafs to keep the four d-men.
btw - Leafs also could opt to protect 8 skaters instead of 7fw, 3d -- e.g. in my example Rielly - Savard - Muzzin - Leddy & Matthews - Tavares - Marner - Hyman. (willy traded) - MaximusAurelius
Muzzin has a NMC for 20-21. I dont think they can expose him. |
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Pietrangelo may not be able to play the whole game but, with Rielly, we would have a 1-2 punch that can play huge minutes and all situations.
If a player of this calibre - a game changer and a former Cup-winning Captain - like this is available you do everything in your power to add him to your lineup.
Holl may be mediocre but he's not terrible. Lehtonen may turn out to be a capable defender, so I'm thinking Muzzin with one of those two should be decent enough to ride at least until the TDL. - mjones242
Im not going to be pissed if we sign Pietrangelo. He's an amazing player, an excellent fit... Who could be chapped over that?
I just think there's a better route.
And it's the 'should be decent enough' that comes after that makes me go that secondary route. 'next TDL'.
I don't want to (frank) around with the blueline anymore, we've seen decades of patchwork solutions with the premise being there will be room to address the shortcomings down the road. There never is and it never does. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Maybe I was thinking of someone else. Looking at this GP, it looks like you were right. - Archaic
My guess is you were thinking of Parise. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Muzzin has a NMC for 20-21. I dont think they can expose him. - Archaic
They can. I know Mirtle explain this. He' d have to have it 21-22 for him to be not exposed |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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I don't want Suter because I hated his dad more than any other player of the era. - Atomic Wedgie
His Dad didn't play one game in the NHL ?? Bob Suter |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Rielly was 5th in Norris voting last year, If he's healthy he's a #1 D. He's in his prime these next few years. - RogerRoeper
I'm pissed that a few of us have to keep saying this.
FFS, he was injured throughout this year. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Leafs have a different opinion on him than you do that’s why.
Imagine that? - Santo_44
So? Yeah, they obviously like him more than me. That means literally nothing, though.
Holl is a career nothing that had played, at most, half a season in the NHL by the time of his contract extension at the age of 27 (almost 28). It's (frank)ing ludicrous to give such a player a no trade clause of any sort. This really shouldn't even be debatable.
This has nothing to do with my opinion of the player. It has everything to do with a player of Holl's caliber never, ever, needing a (frank)ing no trade clause in their contract. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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His Dad didn't play one game in the NHL ?? Bob Suter - bixll
I hated his uncle so much, I hated his uncle's brother. |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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I hated his uncle so much, I hated his uncle's brother. - Atomic Wedgie
Gary.. Ended 99's career. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Plus, he sucks. - fifty__missions
I agree. Leafs don't, which is fine, but in no world should he get a no trade clause. |
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Larsson and Murphy arent that good. I wouldnt waste assets on them.
Parayko IMO isnt getting traded even if the Blues resign Petro. Id love to have him, I just think its a pipe dream. - Archaic
Man... If they resign Pietrangelo, something gotta budge on that blueline. Scandella isn't going anywhere, and I'm not sure Faulk or Dunn are either.
Would be interesting... |
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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They can. I know Mirtle explain this. He' d have to have it 21-22 for him to be not exposed - RogerRoeper
I wasnt certain, as I thought the expansion draft was before free agency. Either way, not sure why the Leafs would want to expose Muzzin if they signed TJ brodie/Brendan Dillon etc. I know they have Sandin, but still
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Edmondson just got one. - RogerRoeper
Did he? Well, glad to see other teams making bad decisions, too. |
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Rielly was 5th in Norris voting last year, If he's healthy he's a #1 D. He's in his prime these next few years. - RogerRoeper
Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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So? Yeah, they obviously like him more than me. That means literally nothing, though.
Holl is a career nothing that had played, at most, half a season in the NHL by the time of his contract extension at the age of 27 (almost 28). It's (frank)ing ludicrous to give such a player a no trade clause of any sort. This really shouldn't even be debatable.
This has nothing to do with my opinion of the player. It has everything to do with a player of Holl's caliber never, ever, needing a (frank)ing no trade clause in their contract. - GreatGigInTheSky
It's limited - 10 team no trade.
If it lowered his cap hit during negotiations, let's just live with it. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Gary.. Ended 99's career. - bixll
And Kariya's. |
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Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective - senstroll
He does, but I think there's still room to grow there.
Especially if he can be afforded the luxury of having a partner who isn't a complete tire fire.
The best partner he's had through his career has been Ron Hainsey. Let's just let that marinade for a second... |
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Canada Cup
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Man... If they resign Pietrangelo, something gotta budge on that blueline. Scandella isn't going anywhere, and I'm not sure Faulk or Dunn are either.
Would be interesting... - joel878
That’s the point IMO. There are good options (trade of FA) for less and this may be a time where the best just might not be viable. |
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Rielly was 5th in Norris voting last year, If he's healthy he's a #1 D. He's in his prime these next few years. - RogerRoeper
so we should trust Norris voting, but not the Jim Gregory voting, correct...?
(n.b. Rielly is indeed a #1D - your argument is just strange considering your previous comments on Lou) |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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He does, but I think there's still room to grow there.
Especially if he can be afforded the luxury of having a partner who isn't a complete tire fire.
The best partner he's had through his career has been Ron Hainsey. Let's just let that marinade for a second... - joel878
I heard Mats Sundin calls him from time to time to tell him he knows what he is going through. |
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Garnie
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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Yes. Do you not get that TRotz system helps everyone look a little better defensively? He was a train wreck prior to Trotz getting there. - RogerRoeper
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I thought it was all the awesome goalies. 🧐 |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective - senstroll
Put him in Florida and everyone is blowing him. His defensive issues are overhyped badly.
He was robbed of a finalist nom last year for the Norris. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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???
I thought it was all the awesome goalies. 🧐 - Garnie
It's Trotz no doubt.
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Rielly has big shortcomings on the defensive side, imo thats not a true #1
more like a 1'sih who needs the proper partner to be most effective - senstroll
Erik Karlsson had big defensive shortcomings - but I don't think that anyone would argue that (pre injury) he wasn't a #1D |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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so we should trust Norris voting, but not the Jim Gregory voting, correct...?
(n.b. Rielly is indeed a #1D - your argument is just strange considering your previous comments on Lou) - MaximusAurelius
Jim Gregory award is voted on after the 2nd round. They keep nominating the Gms in the final 4. It's obviously flawed.
And BTW, Rielly should have been a top 3 finalist. Look at his numbers. it was flawed
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