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JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 18 @ 1:50 PM ET


A have a little more confidence in Barry over Cappy and Doug. Just a little.

Again just using the 3 forwards to try to score against a team like Tampa is going to be tough. Philly almost beat the Isles with getting the D involved and throwing pucks at the net for deflections.

- ses111

Just busting.... It's kind of a fine line between getting the D involved in the offense, and guarding against odd man rushes the other way. Isles did a pretty good job of limiting those odd man rushes.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
The Islanders' PP% was 16th out of 24 teams in the playoffs this year, at 15.4%

That's worse than their regular season PP% which was already bad. If they finished the regular season with that PP% it would have been the 5th worst in the league

- eichiefs9


Did not expect much pushback on the Isles PP.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 1:52 PM ET
Just busting.... It's kind of a fine line between getting the D involved in the offense, and guarding against odd man rushes the other way. Isles did a pretty good job of limiting those odd man rushes.
- JohnScammo


Gotcha John. I'm not looking for D behind the net like Cappy and Doug days but maybe one D man sneaking in and a forward hitting him with a pass and another forward covering. Tampa started having trouble when the Isles started doing this later in the game last night.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 18 @ 1:55 PM ET
The Islanders' PP% was 16th out of 24 teams in the playoffs this year, at 15.4%

That's worse than their regular season PP% which was already bad. If they finished the regular season with that PP% it would have been the 5th worst in the league

- eichiefs9

OK, then I will let 7 explain himself. One obvious problem with the PP, as ses alluded to, is the lack of snipers on the team. The D isn't much help either. They need a Hedman or a Denis Potvin to quarterback the PP. Unfortunately, I don't see one among the D.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:00 PM ET
OK, then I will let 7 explain himself. One obvious problem with the PP, as ses alluded to, is the lack of snipers on the team. The D isn't much help either. They need a Hedman or a Denis Potvin to quarterback the PP. Unfortunately, I don't see one among the D.
- JohnScammo


Have to hope Dobson will be a big help with the PP as he develops. A lack of shooters at forwards is a huge problem and explains why changing the PP coach has not helped.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
OK, then I will let 7 explain himself. One obvious problem with the PP, as ses alluded to, is the lack of snipers on the team. The D isn't much help either. They need a Hedman or a Denis Potvin to quarterback the PP. Unfortunately, I don't see one among the D.
- JohnScammo

They seem to take way too long to make decisions with the puck. Teams like Tampa are snapping it around out there and the Islanders look very unsure as to what it is they want to do.

Adding shooters will certainly help since they don't appear to have anyone that can really score from any distance, save for Pulock if one of his bombs finds the right spot.

Had they just been about "average" in the playoffs and potted maybe 2-3 more timely PP goals we might be sitting here waiting for game 7...or even better.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
The Islanders' PP% was 16th out of 24 teams in the playoffs this year, at 15.4%

That's worse than their regular season PP% which was already bad. If they finished the regular season with that PP% it would have been the 5th worst in the league

- eichiefs9


I was talking about the PP in the last series.
That’s not why we lost. Both PKs were excellent. Again Tampa’s PP wasn’t effective but there’s no reason to change things up. I’m sure it will be effective against Dallas.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
They seem to take way too long to make decisions with the puck. Teams like Tampa are snapping it around out there and the Islanders look very unsure as to what it is they want to do.

Adding shooters will certainly help since they don't appear to have anyone that can really score from any distance, save for Pulock if one of his bombs finds the right spot.

Had they just been about "average" in the playoffs and potted maybe 2-3 more timely PP goals we might be sitting here waiting for game 7...or even better.

- eichiefs9


Season on the line last night and the PP failed. That was a brutal PP in the OT. If Bellows is on the team next year he needs a real chance on the PP.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
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Sep 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
Staple
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- Upstate_isles




Anyone chirping the Isles today is not too bright. Past Isles teams I get not this one.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
I was talking about the PP in the last series.
That’s not why we lost. Both PKs were excellent. Again Tampa’s PP wasn’t effective but there’s no reason to change things up. I’m sure it will be effective against Dallas.

- nyisles7

The Islanders converted PP chances at 10.5% against Tampa. That's a pretty significant contributing factor to losing and the PP wasn't good over a bigger sample size during the regular season either. I'd say that's something they need to work on.

The PP in the Flyers series has nothing to do with losing to Tampa. Yes, PP was better than against Tampa. But the Islanders also fared even worse against Washington, with an unspectacular blueline and a washed up goalie that couldn't stop a beach ball. Isles PP was at 9% for that series.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 18 @ 2:28 PM ET
The Islanders' PP% was 16th out of 24 teams in the playoffs this year, at 15.4%

That's worse than their regular season PP% which was already bad. If they finished the regular season with that PP% it would have been the 5th worst in the league

- eichiefs9


And Tampa was Tied at 11th with a 17% PP where would they have been in the regular season?
Come on Everyone’s PP % is typically worse in the POs because your not playing dogshat

Out of the top 10 PO teams on the PP Dallas 4th and Vegas 10th. The leaders were Edmonton, Calgary, Florida. PP didn’t help them much

So if you look at this they were Avg.
http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...l-teams/sort/powerPlayPct
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:30 PM ET


Anyone chirping the Isles today is not too bright. Past Isles teams I get not this one.

- ses111


My brother is a rags fan and just HAD to post on FB this morning: "I would still rather have the first overall pick then almost making the finals but i will say Islanders are well coached. go rangers 2020-2021!"


I still contend he was adopted.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
My brother is a rags fan and just HAD to post on FB this morning: "I would still rather have the first overall pick then almost making the finals but i will say Islanders are well coached. go rangers 2020-2021!"


I still contend he was adopted.

- Mancalledsting




This is not bad in terms of chirping though so I would give your brother a pass.

I'm talking more about the Isles are boring or never had a shot type chirping.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 18 @ 2:32 PM ET
The Islanders converted PP chances at 10.5% against Tampa. That's a pretty significant contributing factor to losing and the PP wasn't good over a bigger sample size during the regular season either. I'd say that's something they need to work on.

The PP in the Flyers series has nothing to do with losing to Tampa. Yes, PP was better than against Tampa. But the Islanders also fared even worse against Washington, with an unspectacular blueline and a washed up goalie that couldn't stop a beach ball. Isles PP was at 9% for that series.

- eichiefs9



What was Tampa’s % in the series?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
And Tampa was Tied at 11th with a 17% PP where would they have been in the regular season?
Come on Everyone’s PP % is typically worse in the POs because your not playing dogshat

Out of the top 10 PO teams on the PP Dallas 4th and Vegas 10th. The leaders were Edmonton, Calgary, Florida. PP didn’t help them much

So if you look at this they were Avg.
http://www.espn.com/nhl/s...l-teams/sort/powerPlayPct

- nyisles7

Sample size isn't really your strong point I see
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:34 PM ET


This is not bad in terms of chirping though so I would give your brother a pass.

I'm talking more about the Isles are boring or never had a shot type chirping.

- ses111

If you knew my brother, you wouldn't be giving him that pass.
He's a bit of a Richard.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
If you knew my brother, you wouldn't be giving him that pass.
He's a bit of a Richard.

- Mancalledsting




My brother is a Ranger fan but he watched the Isles and was rooting for them. Pretty much like mdw.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
What was Tampa’s % in the series?
- nyisles7

19%

Otherwise known as "twice as good as the Islanders"
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
They seem to take way too long to make decisions with the puck. Teams like Tampa are snapping it around out there and the Islanders look very unsure as to what it is they want to do.

Adding shooters will certainly help since they don't appear to have anyone that can really score from any distance, save for Pulock if one of his bombs finds the right spot.

Had they just been about "average" in the playoffs and potted maybe 2-3 more timely PP goals we might be sitting here waiting for game 7...or even better.

- eichiefs9


Imho one of the biggest factors the PP suffers is Barzal. When he gets the puck he always holds it and waits and circles and then finally makes the pass he should have made before the ice capades he just performed. Not to mention his TO because of his stubbornness to make the smart easy play.
I think that’s why the Nelson unit was better.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
19%

Otherwise known as "twice as good as the Islanders"

- eichiefs9



Take out game One. They scored 3 in that one which was an abortion on every front.
The Islanders and Tampa were both ineffective on the PP in the series and neither team won the series because of it.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Barzal to the wing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
Sample size isn't really your strong point I see
- eichiefs9


And hockey knowledge isn’t yours. You write a good stick and twist and turn. But typically your wrong

The sample size was the POs now it’s not?
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
My brother is a rags fan and just HAD to post on FB this morning: "I would still rather have the first overall pick then almost making the finals but i will say Islanders are well coached. go rangers 2020-2021!"


I still contend he was adopted.

- Mancalledsting

He must have been, and your family should look into returning him to the agency.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Now I can sell you a bridge AND a team in Brooklyn
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Imho one of the biggest factors the PP suffers is Barzal. When he gets the puck he always holds it and waits and circles and then finally makes the pass he should have made before the ice capades he just performed. Not to mention his TO because of his stubbornness to make the smart easy play.
I think that’s why the Nelson unit was better.

- nyisles7

#Vanilla Ho-Sang
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
Imho one of the biggest factors the PP suffers is Barzal. When he gets the puck he always holds it and waits and circles and then finally makes the pass he should have made before the ice capades he just performed. Not to mention his TO because of his stubbornness to make the smart easy play.
I think that’s why the Nelson unit was better.

- nyisles7

Nelson unit had zero PPG against Tampa or Philly

PPGF against Tampa:
Eberle from Lee/Barzal
Pulock from Leddy/Barzal

PPGF against Philly:
Lee from Barzal/Leddy
Lee from Eberle/Pulock
Barzal from Bailey/Eberle
Lee from Barzal/Eberle

Barzal had a point on 5 of the Islanders' 6 PPG in the final two series

Any other brilliant analysis for us coach?
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